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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:10 PM
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Maybe Republicans Have Signed a Suicide Pact?
It's more than odd that they can't find a "real" candidate and more than odd that they are pushing ideas that 80% of people do not want when trying to cover their ass for re-election. Did you consider that they know the "game" has been discovered finally by more people than they thought were on to them, and so have decided to grab for as much of the brass ring as possible before going up in flames? Are they trying to get that grand last haul (like the bailout for organized criminals in '08) and will destroy the country if they don't get it. There is a difference between really pushing your political philosophy and being a suicide bomber. They are scaring Wall Street AND that should be a big indication that this time they really are playing for keeps. They must know the reaction all over the country to everything from state's trying to union bust to trying to destroy Medicare, etc. This is their last stand to eliminate the government doing any work in the interest of the people.
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MinneapolisMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:13 PM
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1. It sure seems that way.
Doesn't it?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:14 PM
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2. Yeah, IMO it's like they're taking the poison pill. I hope many Americans are
wise to them. For most people they would really have to be masochistic IMO to love the republicans. Then again, The Stupid is pretty considerable in the US.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:17 PM
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3. Plus Karl Rove's Crossroads has mucho money to put lipstick on a turd
n/t
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:22 PM
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5. Quite true, and enough perfume to make it smell like a rose. What a sorry state of
affairs for the future of America. And soooooooooo many gullible Americans.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:20 PM
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4. No matter how much water the "Joe the Plumber" types carry for them,
They still are not allowed in their pools. Summer's Commin'!:bounce: :eyes:
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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:34 AM
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13. Yup, this is what baffles me
I mean they absolutely cannot see they're never gonna be allowed into the country club no matter how much they fellate them?
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:44 PM
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6. My theory: they'll do everything they can in 2011 and 2012 to
damage women, poor people, the elderly, the environment, any real financial recovery, the middle class, etc., and especially Democrats and the president. In reality, I think they believe winning the election against President Obama is a lost cause. They've got their eyes on the prize --->>>>> 2016. Watch for Jeb.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 01:48 AM
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11. This is what I'm thinking too
I was telling someone just yesterday that I worry about 2016. I don't know how to explain it.

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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:55 PM
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7. Nope, these stupid fucks only listen to Fox, and so live in the dark.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 08:56 PM
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8. I did some thinking about their 2012 chances today
Edited on Sun May-15-11 08:58 PM by customerserviceguy
after watching my usual round of Sunday talk shows.

Let's assume that Caribou Barbie comes to the same conclusion that Hucksterbee did, and just decides to keep on making money, and possibly turning into a kingmaker by endorsing one of the others at a critical junction in the Rethug nomination process.

If so, the only "known" Repuke candidates that have a shot at the nomination are Romney and Gingrich. Both are unacceptable to the fundies, and both have problems with the other parts of the Republicon base, specifically relating to flip-flopping on various core issues. If one of them doesn't get it, then the nominee will be a "fresh face", Daniels, Pawlenty, Huntsman, etc.

Whenever our side has taken back the White House from the other party for the last fifty-one years, it has been with a "fresh face". You can argue that JFK was a known quantity in 1960, because of his prominent role at the 1956 convention, but two things clearly exist in his case. First, he hadn't been involved in politics for the better part of twenty years (he had only run for Congress when he came back from WWII), and second, it might have been impossible to have been overexposed in the late 1950's, when a minority of households had a television set.

Clearly, Presidents Carter, Clinton, and Obama were virtual unknowns two years before their respective first Election Days. On the other hand, every time the Rethugs run a new candidate for the top job, he's a known quantity. Going backwards through time, McCain, Bush the Younger, Dole, Bush the Elder, Reagan, and Nixon (twice) were all national figures well before the primaries started. The only one I don't remember was Goldwater, I was too young to remember anything before I knew he was the 1964 GOP nominee.

Yes, we've had known candidates, too, Kerry, Gore, and Mondale come immediately to mind. But I have to admit, it's a bit scary to realize that the American people seem to respond better to a "fresh face" (at least when it's on our side), and the chances of the Republicons having one on their ticket next year has seldom been greater.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 10:16 PM
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9. We can only hope.
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Populist_Prole Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 11:53 PM
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10. This is their longed for decisive battle. Their last stand, as you say
They're absolutely committed. If they don't pull it off ( a corporate fascist takeover ) now they never will. Some of them really do realize the backlash will eventually do them in, but they feel they have the momentum that just might carry them enough to win enough power to make the public totally irrelevant. They won't stop now.
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 05:41 AM
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12. i agree with the post and
all the comments -- but personally my biggest fear is election fraud/voting law changes. it really unnerves me to think about some poor college kid standing in line to find out he needs a fucking birth certificate to vote. the other thing that absolutely has me stymied is the Wall Street kiss-off. if they're NOT acting as their foot soldiers, who or what ARE they really fighting for? their $150,000 gigs?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:26 PM
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14. I think they are in so deep that there is no point of return
The Republican Teabaggers have shown all of the cards and I think they did it prematurely.

You may not like President Obama but you have to realize his very existence as the President of the U.S has caused them to lose their collective minds. Notice when he brings to the table that they all supported in the past they are now against them....it's not the ideas it's President Obama.


They have not shown us their all out craziness yet, the rest of this year and 2012 will show Americans exactly what else they have planned for 98% of Americans.

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