Karate skills helped girl fend off attacker

[Swede]

The girl said that as she was walking on the trail in the area of Atchison Drive and Brianna Court Southeast, she noticed a man “sitting cross legged on the ground.” She said that as she walked past him, he did not look up, but about 10 seconds later, she heard the man’s footsteps behind her. She said it sounded like he was running. Before she could turn around, she was struck.

She said she had the presence of mind to roll onto her back when she fell, then kicked furiously at the man when he climbed on top of her. She also kicked him in the groin numerous times, and at one point he fell backwards. She said she then jumped up and kicked the man in the face before running away.

She ran to her friends, and they called 911. During the sheriff’s investigation, the K9 found the wallet and followed the trail to “multiple pages torn from a pornographic magazine.”



Read more: http://www.theolympian.com/2011/05/06/1643002/girls-karate-skills-overpower.html#ixzz1LmSRgLko

[pipi_k]

1. This is the kind of stuff I like to hear...

People who look like they might be good "prey" fighting off...if not actually beating the shit out of...their attackers.

:)

[sakabatou]

2. Martial arts can certainly save your life.

[pansypoo53219]

3. heh, yes. i have a few from milwaukee.

one, a man tried to attack and older black woman and well, she grabbed his dick and wouldn't let go. i assume she was squeezing and yanking it too. the paper printed his words she said he said and it sounded a lot like a blues song. i was taking a blues class at the time.
and then some guy tried to jack an older woman on a scooter, knocked her + scooted over and then she commenced to whack the shit out of him with her cane.

[Liberal_in_LA]

4. k&r

[Liberal_in_LA]

5. From article: Perps mom wasn't surprised to hear about attack, Cops took girl to

perps house to identify. wow

[ProgressiveProfessor]

6. Not everyone respects such prowess

When my daughter successfully fought off and attempted beat down off campus, the school tried to have her sanctioned for it.

[JI7]

9. that's fucked up, what ended up happening ? what was their reasoning ?

[NotThisTime]

17. This happened to my son, six kids on one, leveled 4 to the ground the other 2 ran, school said

boys being boys... well, DS transferred out within a short time, but he was damaged after that event, took him time to realize it was nothing he did wrong. He did everything right, but because he did what he did protecting himself the school washed their hands of the event. He was High School Freshmen age.... He was in no psychological state to press charges at the time....

[Odin2005]

29. I was almost suspended once for defending myself against a bully.

:grr:

[MedicalAdmin]

48. I ripped a locker door off a locker in school once...

and attempted to beat the shit out of a bully before I was restrained. I was suspended, but not for as long as the bully. He NEVER messed with me or anyone else after that. I think it freaked him out a bit.

[Very_Boring_Name]

7. Did it all without a gun. n/t

[hack89]

10. Fortunately her attacker didn't have a weapon

or there may not have been happy ending.

What if she had been elderly or disabled and completely unable to physically defend herself? Could she have a gun then?

[JI7]

11. even if she had a weapon it doesn't mean it would help

there is the issue of where you keep it and the time it would take to get it out.......

and of course there are chances the wrong people could end up getting hurt .

[hack89]

12. But considering that people use guns daily to defend themselves

it doesn't mean it would never help. Life's a crap shot - why not let people give it a shot (pardon the pun!).

[Cleita]

40. No, because if she were elderly and disabled, it would

be easier for the assailant to take it away from her and use it on her or anyone who tried to help.

[hack89]

41. So the weak must always submit to the strong?

is that what you really believe? How do the weak protect themselves if not with guns?

[Cleita]

43. We are all vulnerable to being victims, whether by

mean people, or Mother Nature. But why exacerbate being a victim by providing the perpetrator with a weapon to further hurt you?

[hack89]

44. Because it rarely happens?

why do you assume that it is easy to take a gun away from someone that is willing to use it? Doesn't take much effort to pull a trigger.

[Cleita]

46. I used to be a bartender. I had some training in

martial arts to handle myself if I needed to behind the bar and I had a gun legally. Back then I was confident in its use and in being able to keep it if someone tried to get it from me. However, as I got old, I realized that having a gun when in a close quarters confrontation is not a good idea when you are weak and feeble so I don't carry any obvious weapons with me anymore. I do know how to use everyday objects like keys and other things we carry though.

[hack89]

47. That's your choice

do you have a problem with allowing others to make a different choice?

[Cleita]

53. Not at all.

I just hope they make an intelligent choice and are prepared to accept the consequences if their choice is a gun and that gun ends up being used in a crime because they couldn't hang on to it.

[Taverner]

8. How dare she try to hurt her attacker!!!

She should have told him 'I'm placing you under citizen's arrest' and then read him the Miranda law!!!

:sarcasm:

[franzia99]

21. lol

[Cid_B]

52. I'm sure he was just troubled and has been oppressed...

... by capitalists and republicans... How dare she!?

[Buns_of_Fire]

13. Kicked him in the groin -- NUMEROUS times! And then kicked him in the face!

I must say, I rather like this young lady's approach.:thumbsup:

[NotThisTime]

16. He's very lucky she didn't go to the throat, that would have been the next step

[HopeHoops]

14. We started our 3 girls when they were about 4 years old. They're all 2nd degree black belts now.

My wife is a 3rd degree black belt and teaches pre-school karate as well as regular classes through her own rank.

[marions ghost]

22. All girls should have self defense training

even if they aren't athletic enough to excel at martial arts. The confidence gained in dealing with such situations is critical to growing up in this society where the chances of attack are very real.

:thumbsup: for starting them early.

[HopeHoops]

23. Unfortunately, it seems that boys need it just as much. But yes, the confidence is incredible.

Sometimes all it takes in a situation is to show that you have control and confidence. That can be enough time to throw the assailant off guard and to formulate an escape strategy. It isn't always about fighting, but knowing how certainly doesn't hurt.

[MrsBrady]

33. i've only had a little karate training

but that school is very good, with some of the best black belts in the area coming to practice.
It doesn't really require much training to know how to defend yourself.

they teach hard core self defense moves when you are brand new, along with the karate.
seing as that I got only to yellow belt, I don't know much about holding back.
Cuz some of the first things he teaches are how to injure someone enough so you can get away.

and yes, I could drop someone if I had to. ;)

In fact, last year, the smart-ass teenage kid next door was being hurt/pulled down by his asshole grandfather (who lives down the street) when an issue somehow erupted at our front door, in our own yard. My husband and the boy's step father were trying to pull the grandfather off of the teen. After a few moments, they still couldn't get him to stop, so I went over and kneed him in the back.
He instantly let go of his grandson at that point, and he dropped to his knees.
I was so pissed. Do not assault someone in my front yard, thank you.

My husband was impressed. Do not mess with me. :P

Grandfather apologized later on, and later thanked my husband for helping.
He didn't talk to me though, as I'm sure he was embarrassed as hell that a "girl" straightened him out.
They are VERY polite to me now. I'm only 5'2"

[HopeHoops]

39. My wife's just shy of 4'11" but don't fuck with her. Knowing your shit and confidence are more it.

She's flipped guys that were 6' tall.

Now my eldest daughter (almost 20) is more like 5'3". She was in a MMA club/class at college recently and just couldn't get the move they were trying to teach. She told the instructor that she thought her Tang Soo Do training was interfering with her ability to execute the move correctly. He asked her what her previous training would tell her to do so her partner (a HUGE guy) made the offensive move and she flattened him in a split second. The instructor paused for a few seconds and said, "yeah, that will work too."

[MrsBrady]

54. funny n/t

[NotThisTime]

15. Kudo's to her using her training and keeping concentration of mind to her advantage

[sendero]

18. There is zero..

... downside to having self defense skills. Kudos to that girl.

[Prometheus Bound]

19. Nice story in my local paper: "Man, 81, sends gang packing in tunnel assault"

Man, 81, sends gang packing in tunnel assault
Police follow trail of blood to arrest 8 youngsters in Tseung Kwan O (Hong Kong)
Ng Kang-chung

Updated on May 02, 2011

An 81-year-old man single-handedly fought off a gang of young muggers who tried to rob him in a pedestrian tunnel in Tseung Kwan O early yesterday morning.

Police arrested eight teenagers aged between 15 and 19, several of whom sustained cuts and other minor injuries during the fight with the elderly man.

.....The elderly man, whom police only identified by his family name, Mak, was walking in a pedestrian tunnel near Fu Ning Garden on his way to do morning exercise when the teens pounced on him from behind. They pushed him to the ground and tried to snatch his belongings, police said. But despite the young attackers' efforts to subdue him, Mak fought back fiercely, injuring several of the teens who fled empty-handed.

Police arrived quickly and followed a trail of blood to a flat on the nearby Ming Tak Estate, some 200 metres from the crime scene.
Inside the flat, officers netted the gang of eight - five youths and three girls.

Three of the gang members - a 16-year-old girl, a 15-year-old boy and another 19-year-old youth - were taken to Tseung Kwan O Hospital with minor injuries.

[franzia99]

20. fricken awesome

this girl is my hero

[Bonobo]

24. It's not just the "skills" but the mindset.

Karate and all martial arts can be a great thing.

[seabeyond]

28. it hink that is what i pulled away. just a little time in class didnt hone her skills, but did

allow the mindset she could fight. many girls and women are not comfortable with or of that mindset. i think that is what served the girl so well

[socialist_n_TN]

34. That social conditioning is the FIRST thing

I have to overcome when teaching women and girls Chinese boxing. I just try to pound in in almost with every technique that if somebody is PHYSICALLY in your space, it's OK to get them out. Most of the time you won't know if it works or not out in the street though. You just have to hope.

I will say that of the 4 bones I've had cracked or broken in my training, the rib was cracked by a womam during a sparring match. I outweighed her by 100 pounds and she still got a side kick in under my arms that did the job.

In the school where I train and teach there are some SERIOUSLY good female martial artists. I'm proud of every one of them because I KNOW that they've had to overcome that socialization.

[seabeyond]

36. I KNOW that they've had to overcome that socialization.

you are exactly right. i have had to visualize the ability to fight back. i dont hit. i have spent time telling myself in certain situations hitting is your friend,a good thing, lol

i hear ya

and yea for you, what you are accomplishing

[socialist_n_TN]

49. Thanx. And as a teacher, I'm MORE proud of

what my students accomplish than I am of ANYTHING I've personally done in the martial arts to this day.

Goddess forbid :) that you ever find yourself in a physical confrontation, but if you do, think of your opponent as just a target, not a person that will hurt when the tecnique lands. Sometimes that helps if you just break it down to, "I'm going to hit the bridge of the nose as hard as I can" instead of "I'm going to hit this person in the nose as hard as I can".

After the danger is over, you can go back to thinking of people as people, but until then, it's just a target.

[Bonobo]

38. You want to see a tough woman? Check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKwO5-ji1rQ

Her name is Michiko Onaga. She is a Shorin-ryu (kobayashi) sensei.

I don't know if you can see this link, but it shows her really WHACKING the makiwara. She is the real thing all right.

I trained in Matsubayashi Shorin-ryu by the way.

[Zax2me]

25. Doesn't sound like the karate skills did it.

Seems that the kick in the balls sent the guy to the ground which my niece knows how to do well.
Good for her, hope she damaged his ability to reproduce.

[socialist_n_TN]

35. The problem with that is that EVERYBODY......

INCLUDING the attacker knows to expect an attempt at a groin kick. Unless you know HOW to deliver that kick, you're more than likely to wind up in WORSE shape (flat on your back, on the ground with the wind knocked out of you) than if you didn't try the kick at all.

HOW to deliver that kick was where the karate training came in.

[kick-ass-bob]

42. Best shot is to the knee.

The wife of my former sensei (who is also a black belt) was victim of an attempted mugging.

She dropped him with a stomp on the foot to shock him and then a kick to the knee, breaking his leg.

I'd use that any day over a groin kick. That you can recover from or ignore if waaay strung out. Can't run on a broken leg.

(Makes me queasy even thinking about)

[socialist_n_TN]

50. Yep. My first target is a knee........

Even if it doesn't land solidly enough to do serious damage, it'll still hurt enough to shock the shit out of your opponent and PROBABLY break down his stance. Just breaking the stance for a split second is enough to get another couple of techniques in OR (ideally) get the hell out of there.

[Le Taz Hot]

26. Good for her!

:applause: :woohoo:

This guy is a serial predator that failed to register as a Sex Offender in 1997. How many rapes is he responsible for? It just pisses me off to no end that this guy was roaming free.

[intheflow]

27. But they're locking up pot smokers for life.

Isn't that comforting?



:crazy:

[Odin2005]

30. You go, girl!

[madokie]

31. Good for her

'Figuratively speaking here, they need to hang the guy now.'
People who show unprovoked violence towards another person should be locked up.

[IDemo]

32. A girl I took karate with years ago

drove a cab and dropped a would-be rapist with a kick to the head.

[socialist_n_TN]

37. Yep. There are LOTS of stories out there where

training has helped women and girls fight off attackers.

A few years ago a tween girl that trained with us fought off an attacker in a bathroom. She hurt him enough for her to get away. And that getting away is what the training is actually for.

[Scout]

45. geez, and i got ridiculed when posting in the gungeon that

if one finds oneself at a disadvantage, on the ground, on your back, kicking your attacker can be a good means of defense, no gun needed. :shrug:

[socialist_n_TN]

51. People who REALLY like guns........

are generally going to think of a gun first, second, and last. If it's all you know, it's all you'll use.

[RamboLiberal]

55. Yes it is - but I'll take both advantages

knowing martial arts & having a gun available. Guns can be just an extension of martial arts & many martial artists share that view or have come aroud to it.

[Scout]

56. you don't even have to know martial arts to know how to kick your feet

when you are on your back ... helps if someone tells you the parts to aim for but geez it's not that fucking complicated.

[socialist_n_TN]

57. True, BUT the difference come in the USE of the various

weapons. ANY weapon is just an extension of your hands and feet. And head and shoulders and knees and elbows, etc. Ergo, yes a gun is just an extension of your art. So yes, what you said is true.

The problem POTENTIALLY comes in when the gun is ALL you know. As I said in the earlier post in this subthread, if a gun is all you know, the gun is your first, second and last option. With martial arts training, you not only stand a chance at getting out of a situation WITHOUT ANY VIOLENCE (attitude is everything in a potential confrontation), but you also have options that are LESS than lethal.