ANONYMOUS goes after Tea Party

[katanalori]

ANONYMOUS goes after Tea Party

Attention #TeaParty

"We, the collective super-consciousness known as ANONYMOUS - the Voice of Free Speech & the Advocate of the People - have long heard you issue your venomous statements of hatred, and we have witnessed your flagrant and absurd displays of inimitable bigotry, racism and intolerant fanaticism. We have always regarded you and your ilk as an assembly of graceless sociopaths and maniacal chauvinists & religious zealots, however benign, who act out for the sake of attention & in the name of a political movement."

(snip)


"ANONYMOUS cannot abide this behavior any longer. The time for us to be idle spectators in your inhumane treatment of fellow Man has reached its apex, and we shall now be moved to action. Thus, we give you a warning: Cease & desist your protest campaign in the year 2011, return to your homes & close your public Web sites. Should you ignore this warning, you will meet with the vicious retaliatory arm of ANONYMOUS: We will target your public Websites, and the propaganda & detestable doctrine that you promote will be eradicated; the damage incurred will be irreversible, and neither your institution nor your activists will ever be able to fully recover. It is in your best interest to comply now, while the option to do so is still being offered, because we will not relent until you cease the conduction & promotion of all your bigoted operations & doctrines."

"We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us. "

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/a9g9nk

[karnac]

1. ahh thats what i like. behavior police.

;-)

[RegieRocker]

49. If you've had kids then you are the gestapo of behavior police.

Even in tribes behavior is checked. Welcome to the real world.

[Union Scribe]

2. "voice of free speech"?

Yeah, that fits with attacking people exercising (stupid, but Constitutionally protected) political speech.

[pacalo]

20. Freedom of speech comes with a responsibility for appropriateness of one's words.

[Union Scribe]

39. Uh, what? Can you cite something to back that up?

That speech is limited by its "appropriateness"?

[badgerpup]

44. "Freedom of speech"...

...does not mean the same thing as "Freedom from conseqences/responsibility".

If someone opens their yap and lets fly with something rude, nasty, hurtful, bigoted, ignorant, or just plain mean-spirited, well, then it's their right to do so.

It's MY right to take exception (and if necessary, action) to it if I am offended, affected, or hampered in my day-to-day affairs by it.

It's not just elections that have consequences.
:yoiks:



Who all here is old enough to remember Ann Landers? Remember what she said about "Free Speech"?

"Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins."

I think too many people have either never considered or forgotten that. :eyes:

[Union Scribe]

52. So shutting down speech you don't like

by hijacking websites and threatening people is not only an acceptable reaction to free speech, but can also be done under the banner of being a free speech advocate. Gotcha.

[Lordquinton]

73. This is not the Government acting

It is concerned citizens fighting against corporate money in the only way they can. If this were one of our sites being legally hunted down by a well funded cooperation, you'd be saying that it's the corp's business who they allow to talk about their stuff.

This is not a free speech issue, as the government is not involved in the actions being take, this is a private group fighting back in a cold war that one side has been fighting a whole lot longer, and has a whole lot more organization, and more money than we can imagine.

[Hugabear]

3. This could be very interesting

The "Tea Party" is nothing more than the KKK without the white hoods. I have yet to meet a teabagger who isn't a racist bigot.

[TxVietVet]

41. That's why they are called "teabaggin' kkkluckers".

:dunce:

[tavalon]

70. I've called them lazy KKK

for a while. Great minds think alike.

[ZombieHorde]

4. Now the Tea Party can look like poor victims.

Anonymous is going to help them more than hurt them. What has Anonymous actually accomplished?

[Kaleko]

16. "What has Anonymous actually accomplished?"

It has rallied the voices of dissent and dissatisfaction with the status quo. It has rattled a million cages. It has inspired weary old veterans in the war on common sense to not give up, not yet, not ever. Anonymous gives our tired, our hopeless, our utterly jaded activist a shot in the arm to join in concerted actions and loudly insist on what WE want our future to look like and determine our destiny.

I'm sure there's more. Maybe others will add to the list of accomplishments.

[Beth in MN]

28. ChamberPot Senate Investigations

HBGary, Palantir and Berico’s plot to spy on the Chamber of Commerce’s enemies using technology funded through DOD contracts; the taxpayers money. The HBGary emails Anonymous leaked sparked current Congressional investigations. This might slowdown the Chamber's nasty efforts to swing the 2012 elections.

[Kaleko]

30. Good points, Beth. Thank you for playing.

And welcome to DU.

[murielm99]

5. I wish they would go after Breitbart. n/t

[ZombieHorde]

6. Is shutting down his website for a week or three really going to do anything? nt

[murielm99]

8. Nope.

It would just give us a good laugh.

[ZombieHorde]

10. I have to admit you are right about that one. I would probably laugh. nt

[Snoutport]

14. No...but imagine the emails these people have been sending

I don't know what to think. Democracy depends on the media to keep the state honest...but the media has been bought out. Something has to balance out the loss of the media.

One of the most effective ways for a bigot to lose an argument is to talk. THeir own words always do the most damage. I can't help but like it when the chamber of commerce and hbgary and bank of america had emails dumped by anonymous. I think I'll like reading Tea Party email just as much.

but i'm not saying it is right.

[eilen]

71. Give us some lulz nt

[sabrina 1]

11. He's a teabagger, I'm sure he's on their list. In fact, he probably

inspired their message as he has been on TV a lot lately.

[pacalo]

21. And Fixed News.

[ErikJ]

7. Ironic, Tea Party good for Dems

THe TP made the Republicans all vote for the Ryan Plan which abolishes Medicare and the Dems will use that in 2012 campaign to take back the House. Lots of the Repubs feel tricked and betrayed they had to take the poison.

[Old and In the Way]

9. Actually, this could be effective if done the right way.

Not anything heavy handed like nuking websites. Maybe rearrange a few words to praise Obama or wonder about the sanity of Sarah Palin. Start getting them to question who is really a patriot in the movement. Accuse various TP organizations as Democratic plants. That sort of thing. Wouldn't take much to get the paranoids second guessing their fellow comrades.

But they do seem kind of full of themselves, don't they?

[Sedona]

15. Where do I sign up for that job?

Infiltrating my local tea party and reporting back to my local Dem party what I find out....maybe a little hidden camera action ala O'Keefe without the heavy handed editing.....could be an interesting summer hobby

[calimary]

54. Destabilize the enemy.

If they're so busy looking over their computerized shoulders and spooked because this may or may not be out there, so much the better.

Throwing them off their game! Start getting them to question who's with 'em and who's ag'in' 'em - ALL good. ALL good. It will divert some of their attention and energies and focus, and make some of them paranoid. Psy-ops. Perception management. It's what they THINK is real, not what actually is real. Destabilize the enemy. I like the idea of them waking up in the morning and the first thing they feel like doing is reaching for the bottle of Maalox.

:evilgrin:

[BklynThirtyThree]

12. this just made my weekend

give 'em hell, Anonymous

[freshwest]

17. Might as well. The people they elected are stealing everything, including lives.

[gateley]

13. Hmmmm. I love Anon, but this seems like a waste of time on

pissants who aren't worth the effort. IMO, anyway. I'd rather they go after people who are REALLY doing harm. I'd suggest the DOJ because of the attack on States' medical marijuana sites, but I don't think it would be too smart to fuck with them.

[freshwest]

18. The baggers have elected people who are doing real harm. That's the connection.

The baggers' political doctrine is to destroy the government by selling everything off and leaving those in need to die.

[Hugabear]

23. Rick Scott, Scott Walker, Michele Bachmann, etc

If the teabaggers ever got their way on the national level, we'd be truly fucked for a long time.

[freshwest]

26. Yes, and I don't see much difference between them and Paul Ryan and Rand Paul who are there now.

Boehner is weak tea and of course there are all the others.

[Beth in MN]

36. Tea Party not to blame for Michele Bachmann - It was Karl Rove

Bachmann has been in MN politics for a long time but turned radical right with the help of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. They hated that we were a true blue state since Humphrey and choose Pawlenty, Coleman, and Bachmann as their doers of evil. If the media and the world would just stop talking about her, she would go away. We all feed her craziness. As with Palin, they both have the reality television bug with green signs.

I think she's just about peaked.

[gateley]

31. A lot of those who were elected are facing recalls, and they're turning

against several more, but I see your point. I don't see what Anonymous's attacks against them will accomplish, though except to maybe make them aware they were manipulated by the very oppressors they despise.

[russspeakeasy]

67. Thanks, freshwest.. That's the real point..They do damage with

their votes. 

[blogslut]

19. Anonymous has a Tumblr?

Skeptical.

[gkhouston]

22. Yeah, we were told Anonymous was going after Westboro Baptist, too.

I don't see the teabaggers changing their ways, so I guess we'll know soon enough whether or not this is bogus.

[EFerrari]

24. Didn't that turn out to be a hoax?

[gkhouston]

25. Yup. n/t

[Hugabear]

29. Too bad

It would not bother me in the least if Anonymous took down WBC and other hate sites.

[DesMoinesDem]

27. It's obviously fake

It's just the same fake Westboro Baptist Chruch letter with a couple words changed.

[Kaleko]

32. How can you be sure that this one is a fake ANONYMOUS

when everyone is... well, anonymous?

I am anonymous. Part of a very large group of anonymouses who do stuff you wouldn't believe if I told you.
Am I fake?

[DesMoinesDem]

35. The group Anonymous denied writting the WBC letter.

Are you claiming they are lying? This is the exact same letter with a couple words changed. If the other one is fake, as they claim, then this one is fake also. If you're arguing that anything written by someone claiming to be anonymous is Anonymous, then I would disagree. I could change a couple words of this letter and post it somewhere, but it wouldn't mean anything because I am not Anonymous, even though I am anonymous.

[Kaleko]

37. Anonymous is a group like no other

in that anyone can claim to be Anonymous and speak for the group. There is no hierarchical structure or organization. It's a hive, an amorphous cloud of beings with loosely the same views and goals.

So you're exactly right that anything written by someone claiming to be Anonymous can be part of a concerted, web-based action. Confusing, isn't it? But by design.

[DesMoinesDem]

40. Actually, it isn't confusing.

The WBC letter was a fake, and so is this. If someone took this fake letter and changed it to be about Obama it wouldn't be the work of Anonymous, it would be fake. And they agree with me at anonnews.org. You can find this letter there under the least popular news sources.

[Kaleko]

47. The Westboro BC letter was used as a template for the warning to Teabaggers

posted in the OP, I grant you this.

But again, you are assuming that Anonymous exists as a clearly defined, legitimate organization with bosses and a top-down structure for which the posters at anonnews.org are speaking... umm, but only the ones who agree with you that this is a fake, yes? Many others point out exactly what I have above. Confusion about who is legitimately authorized to speak for THE Anonymous is rampant on the web.

Just take a look at this:

The sham that is AnonNews.org

http://www.chronicle.su/editorial/the-sham-that-is-anonnews-org/

By their actions we will know who's the real deal.

[DesMoinesDem]

59. I'm not assuming anything about the organization structure.

It is completely irrelevant. I'm stating the fact that the WBC letter was a fake, which you seem to be unable to admit. And that would make this letter fake, also. If you're unable to admit to the facts, I have no reason to discuss anything with you. It's obvious this letter is fake for so many more reasons, but you can't even see the most obvious.

[AsahinaKimi]

33. I wonder how "they"decide their targets..

I mean, do they send each other emails with suggestions? I wonder how many of them are Americans and how many are not.. I wonder if, like in the movies, there is a big table, with ten screens, and
scramble images speak using voice distorters to a unknown person..who is seemingly in charge.

[NC_Nurse]

34. i dont think this is legit Anon stuff. they go after those who try to limit speech

and the internet, not generic assholishness. doesnt fit the agenda.

[upi402]

38. I thought Teabaggers were either corporatist operators or dupes

and many of the dupes buy the line of repression, "I ain't got nuthin' to hide"

If they go after the Tebaggers, it can only mean more freedom too... unless they get the Republicans elected that is.

[mopinko]

43. +1. i was hoping this was going to be about the

billionaires that spawned this faux populist movement. i want to know and see the early recruiting that they did. whose mailing list did they use? what kind of propaganda did they use? pretty sure that is what anonymous would be putting out.

[DainBramaged]

42. "an assembly of graceless sociopaths and maniacal chauvinists & religious zealots"

:fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :patriot:

[spanone]

45. K&r...

[madinmaryland]

46. Ok. A group saying they are the voice of free speech, who are now trying

to stifle free speech. Real good.

Hypocrits.

[arikara]

69. I don't see that

free speech means anyone can say what they want... but it doesn't mean that there aren't consequences for what they choose to say.

[RedCappedBandit]

48. Pretty sure that wasn't intended for the Tea Part..

..but rather the WBC

[in_cog_ni_to]

50. YES! Please expose their funding Billionaires too! TAKE-THEM-DOWN! K&R!

[meow mix]

51. yay, free porn on the tea drinking sites

:popcorn:

[Exultant Democracy]

53. Looks like their B team wrote this one. I've come to expect a little more eloquence from Anon

[loudsue]

55. I don't believe that is annonymous. I would think their agenda would be more universal in context.

Like the reason the teabaggers are being manipulated to do what they are doing by faux noise and other well-paid propaganda outlets. The real problem is the overriding agenda of the extremely wealthy dark lords of the world trying to support the oil/military/industrial/commercial complex that owns the most powerful government, rather than the peons that are doing their bidding.

I can't imagine Annonymous is worried about the likes of my neighbors, as much as the assholes that are causing global financial meltdowns and the corporate takeovers of government.

But that's just me.

[rhett o rick]

56. It's not just you. I agree. Teabaggers are hapless patsies, I want them to go after the real

criminals like Rove and Cheney.

[juxtaposed]

57. this is the number 2 time they said they would

[tomm2thumbs]

58. tea baggers are trying to fake a new enemy now that Bin Laden is gone- they need donations!!

nothing like an anonymous spook to get the checkbooks out

[ClayZ]

60. Wooo Hooo... Bravo, for the Karma Control!

K and R

[chrisa]

61. Not Anonymous.

The real group wouldn't actually care about the Tea Party.

Of course, the one downfall of 'Anonymous' is that anybody can be 'Anonymous,' post their motto, and then do anything.

[boppers]

64. Tea party is good for teh lulz.

Not their kind of target.

[Drale]

62. I think Anonymous has evolved into a Hive mind

[Dj13Francis]

63. Nice!

Gotta say, I freakin' love those guys. Wish I knew where to sign up and join.

[JDPriestly]

65. I don't understand what Anonymous is threatening here.

If they are threatening to close down or disrupt a website because of a disagreement with what the website stands for or presents, then I do not support what they are suggesting they will do.

I support freedom of expression on the internet even if I don't agree with the sentiments or ideas being expressed. As long as a website doesn't threaten anyone or break the law, then they should be permitted to say and do what they want.

[jbeing]

66. I would love for Anonymous

and Wikileaks to go after the Kochs.

Pin those MFers to the wall.

[Quantess]

77. The Koch brothers, absolutely!

But going after teabaggers in general? Sounds pointless.

I'm not sure I believe this. It may be a spoof.

[spanone]

68. sic 'em

[MadHound]

72. Does anybody else find the hypocrisy just stupifying?

Really now, the "Voice of Free Speech" wanting to shut down the speech of the Teabaggers. Sorry, I can't go with that. Everybody, whether we like them or not, has the right to free speech.

[Quantess]

74. I'm not sure I believe it.

How do we know this is legitimate?

[Kurovski]

75. " I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies!"

[Jester Messiah]

76. Not to look a gift mob in the mouth...

But since when has Anonymous had a problem with bigotry, racism, and intolerance? The whole point of Anonymous (or one of the points) was that with the mask on, people can express themselves freely without fear of shame or retaliation. That which is impossible to utter when people know your name is laughably easy to shout from the rooftops when your identity is unknown.