How is it Republicans can claim God as their own but follow the likes of Ayn Rand?

[jorno67]

Rands beliefs seem to mesh perfectly with that of another well known Religion/philosophy. Rand's belief:
Man—every man—is an end in himself, not the means to the ends of others. He must exist for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself. The pursuit of his own rational self-interest and of his own happiness is the highest moral purpose of his life.
http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=objectivism_intro

And now Satanists belief:
While the Church has changed in the past 30 years, the core values of early Satanism remain the same for many Satanists today - self indulgence, self worship, enjoyment of life, personal empowerment and gain.
http://www.spiritualsatanist.com/articles/satan/theism.html

They seem like a match to me. So how does the Right get away with it?

[nonperson]

1. And this from a person who ultimately relied on Social Security and Medicaid

Ayn Rand. What a fucking sociopath hypocrite.

[Turbineguy]

2. I think it's called

cognitive dissonance.

It's like a communist who works for Goldman Sachs.

[ErikJ]

3. All Frauds

She was a Fraud for being on SS and Medicare and they are frauds for claiming to be the Family Values party when they endorse her.

[csziggy]

4. Because they will say anything to get power and their followers are morans

And they do not mind lying to get what they want.

[buddysmellgood]

5. God is a republican. How else could one allow so much suffering in the world.

[patrice]

6. How? Because they are blasphemers who either don't know or don't care what the 1st Commandment means

[jorno67]

13. But why are they allowed to get away with it?

I have felt for a very long time that my religion has been hi-jacked and I want it back.

[patrice]

14. Around here they get away with it by expressing their "concern" about this or that

to the right ears, to people who owe their own positions to whether certain other people are "concerned" or not. I will not go into how I know this, but I can swear that it is not conjecture.

It's ALL about JOBS, or more precisely exactly WHO has what job.

[lonestarlib]

25. Amen!

This so-called Christianity, has nothing to do with the teachings of Christ.

[FiveGoodMen]

7. Rand IS their god

They don't like anything about Jesus except the name.

[patrice]

16. bingo + the sappy pictures of some white guy who is their ticket to doing whatever they want.

War Slavery? Benign neglect of our Elders? Generations crippled by ignorance and prejudice?

No problem! God loves you!

[provis99]

8. Anton Levay was a follower of Ayn Rand.

Levay is the author of the Satanic Bible, which essentially preached a Randian philosophy. Interestingly, it was him who identified Rand with Satan (even though he was a Satanist).

[jorno67]

12. i did not know that...

thanks for the info.

[patrice]

17. Have you ever read any of his stuff? I scanned some of it yesterday; Ayn Rand to a T.

[jorno67]

30. not until the other day and really just

to see if I was correct in what i had remembered from philosophy class 20 years ago.

[TNLib]

9. because their a bunch of ignorant hypocrites

Just like Ann Rand

[cabot]

10. because they are idiots?

[theophilus]

11. If there was an Anti-Christ in our recent past (I don't think there was) it

could very well could have been Ayn Rand. She was pretty much anti "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Etc. Hypocrisy and ignorance. Many who profess Christianity don't have the faintest clue as to what the New Testament is. IMO

[edhopper]

15. Religion and Logic

mutually exclusive.

[patrice]

18. I'd go with that statement, with the caveat that this is because the object of each is

an aspect of reality that the other is not. The problem is that Logic inherently recognizes and functions on its own limitations. It has nothing to say about anything beyond itself and that is one of its basic assumptions. Religion, on the other hand, inherently assumes that it apprehends and is therefore the measure of ALL, even logic. It contradicts its own concept referred to as "God", by assuming that it is God.

And, for this, we pay their way in our economy.

[edhopper]

20. What part of religion

deals with reality?
Are you talking about philosophical "truths' that can be found in some of the teachings?
Or are you saying there is something fact based there?

[patrice]

28. I'm talking about their CLAIM to non-rational truths that are more true/real than rational ones whic

h they claim also.

[edhopper]

29. Thanks

for the clarification.

[quaker bill]

21. more or less true

but neither are actually involved here.

Ayn Rand is not logic.

and thing professed by these folks is only religion in the crudest sense, in that anything that defies reality but is repeated as ritual often enough has the basic hallmark of religion.

[Skidmore]

19. I was thinking the same sort of thing in regard to Darwin and evolution this morning.

Perhaps it is time for a well placed article or documentary clearly delineating these teachings of capitalist Christianity/wealth salvation as manifestations of the very philosophies and ideas they denigrate.

[Generic Other]

22. cognitive dissonance in their reptilian brain stems explains most things about them

Especially the divide between their expressed religious beliefs and their actions. They say they believe in Christ but they act like Ayn Rand.

Like the comparison of Ayn Rand's objectivist philosophy and Anton LaVey's satanism! Both are the antithesis of Christ's socialist philosophy!

Guess this proves most people have no idea what the hell they think.

[DiverDave]

23. she died using social security and medicare

fucking hypocrite

[RebelOne]

24. Even that asshole Neal Boortz worships her.

He was discussing on his radio show one day about how much he admires her.

[Stevenmarc]

26. Easy when you cherry pick the fire and brimstone portions

[Jack Rabbit]

27. Oh, come on

I have nothing nice to say about Ayn Rand's droppings, but she was not a satanist. She was an atheist, generally under the influence of Nietzsche. Her nonsense was very secular nonsense.

Can you say guilt by association?

[jorno67]

31. Jack - read carefully

no where did I say Ayn was a satanists. What I said was that the core value of her "ism" is the exact same as the core value of Satanism and yet the right champion her as another savior.

[Wounded Bear]

32. I think a lot of them don't really know.....

They just follow the "leaders" and the propaganda.

I've had more than a few "who dat?" responses when I point out people's support for Randian policies.