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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:37 PM
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Boy, two, with brain cancer is 'cured' after secretly being fed medical marijuana by his father
Boy, two, with brain cancer is 'cured' after secretly being fed medical marijuana by his father


A desperate father whose son was suffering from a life-threatening brain tumour has revealed he gave him cannabis oil to ease his pain. And he has now apparently made a full recovery.

Cash Hyde, known as Cashy, was a perfectly healthy baby when he was born in June 2008 but became sick shortly before his second birthday.

At first he was misdiagnosed with glandular fever before his parents Mike and Kalli, from Missoula in Montana, were given the devastating news he had a serious brain tumour.

The little boy had to have arduous chemotherapy treatment to reduce the growth, which had drastic side effects including seizures and a blood infection.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1383240/Boy-brain-cancer-cured-secretly-fed-medical-marijuana-father.html
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:45 PM
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1. Well, "cured" after intense chemo and marijuana to control the side effects.
It is literally true that the marijuna use came before the cancer went into remission, the headline in omitting the chemo is intended to create the impression that the weed was the cure when the article does not support that view.

Anyway, if the suggestion is that marijuana ought to be readily available to chemo patients to control the side effects, I agree.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:50 PM
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2. +1...nt
Sid
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:10 PM
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5. My friend had intense chemo before dying of brain cancer.
I often wonder what would have happened had she taken my offer of free Cannabis.

How do you know the Cannabis wasn't the key to this child's recovery? We already know chemo isn't a "cure" for anything, however it is a fact that Cannabis shrinks head, neck and brain tumors.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:26 PM
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12. "We already know chemo isn't a "cure" for anything"
how do we know this?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:30 PM
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16. We don't know it. The other poster heard it somewhere, though.
I don't know about you, but I'm betting most of us know someone who had their cancer cured with chemo. I certainly do.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:33 PM
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19. Because it just increases the odds of survival, it doesn't cure cancer.
It also kills healthy cells in the process.

However I probably should have chosen my words better, it's not a 100% cure.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:58 PM
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29. well...
ain't no medicine that cures anything then. Just most compounds have lower failure rates. But they all do have failure rates.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:54 PM
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36. I believe you confuse treatment with cure
I believe you confuse treatment with cure. Chemotherapy (like radiation) is a treatment and is not advertised, considered or implied to be a cure.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:22 PM
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37. I think you responded to the wrong post, I stated it wasn't a cure.
Treatment is the correct word.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:29 PM
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14. We know nothing of the sort.
I have a close friend who is 20 years cancer-free, after a very tough time with chemo. It obliterated the cancer. You're woefully incorrect, as any cancer survivor will be glad to tell you.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:41 PM
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22. A "cure" would have worked for my friend too.
Your friend's odds of survival were increased, and she beat the odds.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:49 PM
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27. She did beat the odds. She would not have without the chemo.
She didn't use cannabis, either.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:52 PM
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35. Until valid correlation is made, it's little more than post hoc ergo prompter hoc.
Until and unless a valid correlation is made, it's little more than post hoc ergo prompter hoc.

I took two aspirin first thing in the morning today and traffic was surprisingly good. Spurious correlation or is aspirin really that good?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:25 PM
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38. Unfortunately clinical studies are illegal in the United States because of politics.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:37 PM
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39. I imagine there are valid, peer-reviewed trial in Western Europe...
I imagine there are valid, peer-reviewed trial in Western Europe that could determine if there is a correllation... :shrug:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:39 AM
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43. I'm sorry about your friend. No one deserves that.
We can only guess how she would have done had she been more comfortable and was not so sick from the treatment. I don't claim to be a medical expert and I certainly know nothing about your friends case. Nevertheless, it is axiomatic that there are no guarantees in medicine and this is especially true with cancer.

Nothing in the article suggests that there was any single "key" to the child's recovery. The writer is certainly not suggesting that the marijuana alone eliminated the cancer. Oncologists typically speak in terms of remission rather than cures because even if the tumor vanishes it can always come back. Still, chemotherapy does work. The problem is that it is not a "magic bullet," that is it does not target cancer cells only while leaving healthy tissue alone. It is more like the antiseptics and mercury cures of the pre-sulfa age than it is like an antibiotic which only targets bacteria. As a result, chemo is toxic with many sickening side effects including being carcenogenic itself. Left untreated, cancer almost always kills, so doctors and patients are usually willing to throw the dice on an imperfect treatment.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:05 PM
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3. Yowsa, it was the dope that cured him...
not that chemotherapy. Yessiree.

Would you PLEASE pass that around and quit staring at it? Thanks.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:09 PM
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4. he couldnt eat 40 days? how did the chemo help that?
just wondering.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:26 PM
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11. Having seen someone who was on chemo, I'm not surprised that
he couldn't eat. Neither could the person I knew. She had to be fed intravenously. But, you know what? The cancer was cured, and she's still alive now, 20 years later. Isn't that interesting. You should ask her how she feels about that chemo, if you care to hear her answer. And she can answer, thanks to the awful suffering she underwent to be cured. Have a nice day.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 04:08 PM
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30. to bad your such pot haters, coulda helped her out.
but do it the hardest way then. thanks i will =)
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:13 PM
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6. Did dope really used to mean pot?
When my parents had "the drug talk" with me they mentioned how they had both done dope and my jaw hit the floor before I realized that hasn't always meant heroin.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:23 PM
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10. Yes, n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:27 PM
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13. Why do you think they call it dope?
Of course it was called that. Take it from an old doper. I gave it up in 1974, though, so no, no, no, no, I don't smoke it no more.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:29 PM
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15. Right, but today when somebody talks about dope I look for track marks
And by "today" I mean like "the past two decades or so".
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:31 PM
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17. Yabbut, I'm an old geezer, and I use old geezer words.
I drink old geezer beer and sing old geezer songs, too.
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:36 PM
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20. here ya go
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:40 PM
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21. Wow -- who's that young Chevy Chase impersonator?
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:56 PM
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28. He didn't have any trouble rolling one
I saw that live, while stoned. It's funny now. It was sore gut, streaming tears, piss your pants funny that night.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:42 PM
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23. Oh, it had lots of pet names in those ancient times.
Dope, weed, herb, smoke, stash, grass, ganja, and a few dozen more fun names. Call it what you will, it was, and is, the gentle herb.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:15 PM
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7. I saw this earlier - was going to post it, but figured someone probably already had.
K&R
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:21 PM
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8. arduous chemotherapy treatment eom
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:22 PM
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9. interesting
why is there an ongoing, mega tax-draining war on this herb?
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:33 PM
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18. Some 2-bit preacher "laid hands" on the pot and made Jesus Weed
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:44 PM
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24. Bethlehem Brown, eh?
Some righteous substance, indeed.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:48 PM
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26. There wasn't all that much weed in the Holy Land back in the day,
but hash was sure easy to find. One of my favorite memories of being stationed at a remote base in Turkey was the fact that we could go to the chemist (pharmacy) shop in the nearby town and purchase hash over the counter, completely legally. This was 1967-68. It was very dark, but offered an excellent result. It was so commonplace at that tiny Air Force installation, that the barracks halls reeked of it, and its use was simply ignored by the base officers.

A very interesting time in a faraway land.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 03:44 PM
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25. Sounds like it was the chemotherapy rather than the marijuana.
Besides, these tumors typically come back....so will the headline in 2 years read "Boy regrows tumor after medical marijuana treatment."
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:09 PM
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31. I used Chemo AND Cannabis (and still use one of them)
I was diagnosed with stage four lung cancer in 2003, told that there was nothing that could be done, and given the usual 3-6 months to live. I increased my already existing consumption of cannabis, mostly because I felt better buzzed than I did unbuzzed -- and also as a preventative of pain. Time passed, and my tumors (thankfully) grew very slowly and didn't spread. Several of them actually shrank. After two years with no further metastasis, my primary tumor had (slowly) grown enough to where the oncologist thought it could now be 'hit' with radiation (previously not possible because of proximity to my heart) and that simultaneous chemotherapy might help the situation. So, two years post-diagnosis, I underwent both Chemo and Radiation Therapy. In my case, they worked, causing further tumor shrinkage.

I'm now well into miracle-land, being eight years past my death sentence. Pot has helped me at every step of the way. I'm convinced that it slowed both the growth and the spread of my cancer to the point where it became treatable with conventional means. And even if it hadn't, it made the days brighter, back when I was waiting to die.

The greatest plant God ever gave us is Cannabis.

That's why persecuting those who use it (as Obama does) is such a black sin.

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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:13 PM
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32. Can I point out that cannabis has a history of successfully treating some cancers BY ITSELF.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:15 PM
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33. Misleading headline (from the daily mail) as the MMJ had no part in "curing" the boy.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:20 PM
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34. The good news is, the kid seems to have gotten better
the bad news is, I'm sure the 'authorities' are working overtime on our tax dollars to send this dad to prison over this.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:41 PM
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40. I wouldn't say the cannabis cured the cancer. Did help with the nausea & appetite thing.
Poor kid. I will grant that the cannabis did its job there.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:22 PM
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42. Cannabis slows and possibly shrinks tumors.
I really don't understand why people still deny it. There are links to studies up-thread.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:21 PM
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41. Love that story
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