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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:46 PM
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Okay, I'm gonna say something nice about George W. Bush and
bet I don't get flamed all that much. President Obama very graciously extended the invitation to W to join him in New York on Thursday. It is significant and important, especially for New Yorkers that he go there. Dubya declined the invitation, I suppose for all or many of the reasons that have been stated. I remember that Bush, during the transition, was very cooperative with the new incoming team and from all appearances he and Obama had a conciliatory relationship. That's a good thing. President Bush understands this is President Obama's "baby" and I truly believe he wants him to enjoy whatever the day brings for him. Good decision President Bush, my opinion of you has inched up a notch or so.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:48 PM
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1. Maybe it's a sting to arrest him !!
War crimes and all
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:51 PM
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7. As much as we would like that, realists know that is never going to happen IMO..n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:48 PM
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2. Bush as ex prez isn't so bad. But as prez he was beyond awful.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:57 PM
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13. I have the same opinion.
Nowadays he's just kick back.....the kind of guy you could have a beer with. :evilgrin:
He does understand propriety and staying out of the media spotlight. Too bad he fucked the country up so bad and killed all those people.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:58 PM
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29. Yeah. He really wasn't cut out for the job.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:12 PM
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26. it's pretty good company, that is, people who are better
ex-presidents than they were presidents.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:49 PM
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3. I suspect you're right...No flames from me.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:50 PM
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4. Okay, I'll play
If W were to attend the event and the right wing continues to find fault with the mission - then he can say it had nothing to do with him. Legacy protection.

:hi:
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:52 PM
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8. HA! Good point...Sort of a CYA decision..Could be...n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:54 PM
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11. Yeh, W always did seem like a CYA kinda guy - Didn't he get his Masters in CYA?
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:50 PM
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5. I had mentioned Bush's graciousness in his Statement
Edited on Tue May-03-11 07:51 PM by DearAbby
following the announcement OBL was dead. Again He has shown graciousness. :thumbsup:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:51 PM
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6. My opinion of him notched up an inch too: from -1000 to -999
nt
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:57 PM
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14. big fat lol
:D

my numbers are about the same
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:53 PM
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9. I'm suspicion of his motivation for the decline, but there's a bit more dignity to
proceedings because he won't be there.

Not exactly praise, but I won't flame you, either.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:54 PM
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10. I hate to disagree, but I do. Bush just isn't that interested in our
country - he wasn't when he was President and he certainly isn't now. He's just like Trump - only interested in himself. Fuck everybody else.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:56 PM
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12. He's a classic narcissist. If he isn't holding the megaphone, he can't be arsed, frankly.
Where would be the fun in standing behind Obama and watching him get all the applause?
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:58 PM
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17. There is a laziness about him that I'm sure has grown since he is
now in "retirement." Having to get ready to go to New York, wear a suit, be on the good manners and ex-presidentin' behavior. Nah, he'd rather stay home, ride his bike and watch the tv. He isn't all that interested and his appearance of being "gracious" is fine with him.. You make a good point.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:02 PM
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30. Actually, you make a better point than I did. You're right; it is his
laziness - getting all dressed up and having to act nice. That's exactly what it is - he's lazy as Hell and can't be bothered.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:58 PM
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15. I had the same initial reaction you did, despite my extreme distate for him
Another theory: He wasn't the President who "solved" the OBL issue, so perhaps he's embarrassed to be seen in public with the President who did. I dunno.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:58 PM
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16. Awesome, we're praising Bush now!
I guess it's inevitable when democrat validates neocon wars. Maybe DU will be reaching out to free-republic soon.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:06 PM
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24. The Bipartisan bus. You're either on it, or under the wheels
:hi:
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:00 PM
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18. He couldn't care less about 9/11, Ground Zero, the families or
NYC. Never did, never will.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:02 PM
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19. And I'm going to ask you to think about the torture of a human being.
Get that image in your brain.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:02 PM
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20. As much as I despised the man in office ...
Bush has been a surprisingly gracious ex-Prez. And I have to tip my hat to him for that.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:02 PM
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21. Bush knew he was out of his league
And he was probably relieved to be out of the spotlight and off the "hot seat".

I wish him well in his new career picking up dog do and the very occasional rubber chicken dinners at the local Lion's Club.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:05 PM
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22. I'll add a compliment if I may...
Over the weekend I saw a video of Bush on a bike ride with a bunch of Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans... some missing limbs. Bush stood there and said he was responsible for them going to war, and he was in awe of their strength. I felt a little glimmer of respect for him; that was the most honest statement I've ever heard him utter... and it was a wonderful thing.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:06 PM
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23. I don't think it's anything that elegant
He'd have to sober up, shave and put on a suit and tie and I think that's just too much work for him ;)
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:10 PM
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25. Such a nice
fucking war criminal!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:26 PM
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27. Uh no. He's not going because Swamp People is on the History Channel.
Duh.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:27 PM
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28. Or maybe he was afraid he'd be booed
I'm sorry but I hate the ass clown to the core.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:03 PM
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31. Being respectful isn't going to bring back the thousands who died because of his lies.
Edited on Tue May-03-11 09:03 PM by BlueStater
Sorry but I'll hate that bastard until the end of my days.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:20 PM
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32. Bush was a President who enjoyed doing what he was told to
do. No need to have to think or anything else. Just willingly enjoy doing what you're told to do. He was very effective and competent at this. Some people loved him for it, some hated him for it.

Obama, on the other hand, tries to fight, bargain and compromise against what he's told to do. He gets what he can wrangle out of the powers that be, and that will always be short of people's expectations. Some people love him for it, some hate him for it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:22 PM
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33. Maybe he declined because he's on a bender. nt
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:26 PM
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34. Did he invite Bill Clinton to Ground Zero in 2001? Or did the word go out to blame Clinton?
Because I remember the Republican meme in the days immediately following the 9/11 attacks were, "Thank Goodness Al Gore ins't President," and "Bill Clinton was warned and didn't do anything about Bin Laden." I don't think George Bush should show his face.
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