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Playinghardball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:37 PM
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Was Pakistan Harboring Osama? The Evidence
Source: Mother Jones

People are raising a number of questions, and understandably so...about whether or not there was some type of support that was provided by the Pakistani government.

That's the assessment of President Obama's counterterrorism czar John Brennan, who briefed reporters Monday. Brennan added: "It’s inconceivable that bin Laden did not have a support system in the country."

Here, the top three pieces of circumstantial evidence that our frenemy Pakistan was harboring the most wanted man in the world:

1) It's the Location, Stupid

Osama's outsized, $1 million fortress — surrounded by walls up to 18 feet tall, topped with barbed wire — loomed, ostentatiously, in the heart of the garrison town of Abbottabad, just a mile's drive from the Pakistan Military Academy, that nation's version of West Point.

More at: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/pakistan-harbored-osama-the-evidence-20110502
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:38 PM
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1. More importantly - did Bush/Cheney know Pakistan was harboring Osama all this time???
This may be the smoking gun we've all been looking for.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:40 PM
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:42 PM
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3. Well....Obama killed him so it's a moot point with him. Bush let him go...
and even turned our efforts elsewhere as a specific diversion.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:48 PM
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4. Bush specifically dismantled the OBL search and kill team, at the time OBL was building his complex
2005 - 2006 if I can recall. I don't have the article off hand but I know I read that Bush specifically dismantled that particular unit and disbursed them to Iraq, even as OBL was planning on settling in to his bunker.

Its just very conveeenient. I have no idea if Bush/Cheney knew where he was or not but the timing is very strange.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:52 PM
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5. Musharif Is Very Critical About This Raid Into Pakistan To Get OBL......
Edited on Tue May-03-11 03:01 PM by global1
Musharif was good friends with Bush/Cheney. I always thought that Musharif had a target on his back for the support he gave the U.S. I thought he was a dead man walking and would be assassinated. The fact that he made it through his administration and he still is around still amazes me. He is my number one suspect in Pakistan. I think he was a player and was being used/or using both sides. I wouldn't be surprised if someone in the BushCo administration knew this and took advantage of it because they felt they needed OBL to be their boogeyman so they could continue to con the American people though fear.

Now look what is happening. One would think that the biggest threat to our security was taken out and that we'd be safer. Well the Repugs and the MSM won't let that happen. They are continuing their scare tactics to keep the American people in check. The Obama administration has to go along with that for fear the if they don't and some crazy out their tries something - they look at least like they warned us that this was a possibility.

I'm actually worried for Obama right now because if someone does try something to hurt Obama - all the blame can be laid at the feet of those that were revenging the death of OBL - even if they had nothing to do with it and the real culprits were covert Americans.

And guess what - conveniently the talking heads will say that Obama brought this on himself by taking out OBL. Hence it completes the circle. Blame Obama.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:08 PM
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7. Yikes - those are some scary thoughts.
I agree with you on Musharif - I have never trusted him one bit and always thought we were fools for seemingly following him blindly.

Let's hope you aren't right about the last few sentences in your post, but that does make me worried now. I truly believe when the govt is involved there is nothing that isn't planned and thought out diligently.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:41 PM
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8. Aren't You The Least Bit Suspicious As To Why Rush Praised Obama So Much For Getting OBL......nt
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:52 PM
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9. I took it that he was being sarcastic and was trying to make headlines....
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timesup Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:01 PM
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6. uh huh
I agree, it's hard to fathom that the world's worst human being was living there, without any notice, and already read some contradictory evidence.
It couldn't happen here, so why could that happen there?
It is hilariously sad if turns out to be true, however.
I think it's much more likely just a piece of the corruption puzzle over there.
The A-Q #2 clown is probably living 300 meters from there, too.




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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:56 PM
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10. The ISI, al Queda, 9/11 & Daniel Pearl connection
the 9/11 Money Trail
Video detailing connection between Atta, Ahmad and Sheikh

From 2006 article in The Telegraph:

Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmad, was then the director general or Pakistan's CIA, it's Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI). Gen. Ahmad had ordered that $100,000 be wired to Mohammed Atta about a year before 9/11, which Atta then used for flight school tuition, when the "Islamic fundamentalist" was not using his funds on booze, coke, hookers, lingerie models and lap dances.

Gen. Ahmad ordered an operative, known as Ahmad Umar Sheikh (as well as Saeed Sheikh and several other names), a British citizen of Pakistani descent, famed as a kidnapper and economic wiz, to wire the money from the United Arab Emirates. Gen. Ahmad had been the main conduit of funds from the US through Pakistan, to the mujahedeen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan, and later the paymaster of al Queda and the Taliban through one of the ISI's directorate called "Army of Islam."

The 9/11 Commission claims that the source of funding of the hijackers is not an important and misidentified Sheikh as an Egyptian. But the Wall St. Journal and Times of India were hot on this story in late 2001 and early 2002 because it was the smoking gun that linked Pakistan to the hijackers, which directly contradicts the 9/11 Commission view that the only state sponsor of the attacks was Afghanistan.

Unfortunately, the Wall St. Journal reporter responsible for this reporting was Daniel Pearl. As he tracked the story to Lahore Pakistan, he was kidnapped and beheaded by none other than Saeed Sheikh.
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