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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:39 PM
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OBL wife, daughter held by Pakistanis; Daughter witnessed father's killing
Osama Bin Laden's Wife, Children Held In Pakistan: Pakistan Official

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) – A senior Pakistani intelligence official said one of Osama bin Laden's daughters had seen her father being shot dead by U.S. forces, and was one of about 10 relatives of the al Qaeda leader in custody pending interrogation.

The official, who declined to be identified, said the daughter, aged 12 or 13, was one of the people who had confirmed that the mastermind of the September 11, 2001 attacks had been killed by U.S. commandos in a raid early on Monday.

The relatives -- one of bin Laden's wives and up to eight children -- will be interrogated and then probably turned over to their countries of origin, and not the United States, in accordance with Pakistani law, he said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/03/osama-bin-laden-wife-children-pakistan_n_856974.html


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As an aside, for those who believe this whole story of OBL capture/death is an elaborate hoax, will you please help me understand why his children and wife present on site, would be going along with the story? Why would recent communiques' from Al Qaida (and threats to the West) also reference OBL's death. I'm just looking for a cogent and coherent alternate theory for those espousing the OBL hoax. :shrug:
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:41 PM
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1. Logic does not work. Stop using it. nt
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:42 PM
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2. Your point is spot on!
Only the most outlandish and unbelievable conspiracy theory points to a hoax at this point.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:46 PM
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3. This is the first time I heard this info...
Why are you so eager to believe the "official story?" Just because it's the Obama administration? They already admitted they made up the bit about OBL using his wife as a shield.

The Pentagon makes up stories all the time and the White House often has to just go on faith when they repeat the stories. Remember Pat Tillman?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:51 PM
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5. Because no one has presented any evidence nor motive
Edited on Tue May-03-11 01:56 PM by hlthe2b
to suggest the official story is wrong. Why are you so determined to believe the Obama administration, his Republican opponents, the Navy Seals involved in the action, the entire domestic and international press, Al Qaida, OBL's family-- are all involved in creating this elaborate hoax? When Obama's most aggressive and hate-filled opponents among RETHUG politicos and pundits (who would have everything to gain from planting doubt on this seeming "success" for Obama) are not promoting this hoax theory, why, exactly should I be believing it?

To the contrary, many might ask, what is the motivation for those perpetuating the elaborate hoax alternative theory?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:55 PM
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8. I just heard it myself on the news
Is there a link to someplace that says they admitted they "made up" the story about the woman as a human shield?

Because that one is new to me...

Anyway...

In the chaos of the operation, it's not unusual to get differing views of the events from all present.

It's not unusual for the story to change as new facts come to light.

Just like....

Science!!!

Whoa. What a thought!!!




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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:02 PM
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12. They have also now backtracked
on him being armed. shrug. Too many stories, and too many people who think they know telling the press what happened.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:48 PM
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17. Link to official US government statement that OBL was armed in the first place?
I'll be waiting.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:34 PM
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24. Beyond threads here
Just the basic reports like this one on the confusion.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42882664/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:15 PM
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28. MSNBC does not consitute an OFFICIAL source.
I want a link to a written US government statement, or a video of an official government spokesperson making the statement in question.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:54 PM
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31. Bury the head in the sand
I am not the one reporting the backtracking like the BBC, MSNBC, Yahoo, Reuters, etc.... LOL...
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:43 PM
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26. Here is another
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:15 PM
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29. Reuters does not constitute an official government source.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:55 PM
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27. And another
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:16 PM
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30. Yahoo CERTAINLY does not constitute an official government source.
You're getting desperate.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:49 PM
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4. Ooooh...more people to add
to the conspiracy!


DNA evidence...

The president and his cabinet, the Pentagon, Dick Cheney, and about 90% of Americans have been sucked into this conspiracy...now OBL's own wife and daughter too!!!

Well, they must be mistaken. They don't know what the hell they're talking about...

The doubters know it's a conspiracy because....

er...

um...

HEY! Stop saying that!!! They just know it, OK?

:+


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:52 PM
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6. They actually shot a Reptoid who was wearing an Osama bin Laden skin. n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:54 PM
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7. They're actors! Actors I tell you!
:rofl:

Oddly enough, the deathers are even dumber than the birthers.

:rofl:
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:58 PM
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9. Holograms.
Just like the passengers from Flight 93.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:00 PM
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11. Same time...same idea....
different people

:7

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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:09 PM
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14. I don't know...
One of us could be a hologram.

DU is fun today.

:toast:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:58 PM
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10. OMG using actors is so 20th Century!!!
Holograms are the way to go now...

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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:14 PM
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15. The "truthers" still take the cake...
Seriously, DU even had to create a dungeon for the "truthers" to keep them out of public view so as not to embarrass the site or Democratic/progressive causes.

The "birthers" have really taken their crazy to new heights recently, but I'm not sure they've quite reached "truther" levels of nuttiness yet. I mean, I am not sure they have their equivalent of Loose Change at this time.

"Deathers" are only getting started...

The funny thing is they all fall back on the same argument when they've pushed the crazy far enough that people start calling them on it - "but, but we're only asking questions".
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:20 PM
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22. Why do you believe the "official story"???
:rofl:

I like how official story even gets scare quotes. They're funny people, unintentionally.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:05 PM
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13. Easy answer. They're lying?
The wife that identified his body was really just lying to collect on his life insurance policy. They're all currently being relocated to South America, where they plan to meet up and live happily ever after.

You see, it's all a big insurance scam.

Sorry, it's the best I could come up with on short notice. :shrug:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:41 PM
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16. Thanks
But won't stop anybody.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:49 PM
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18. Have the wife and children issued statements?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:57 PM
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19. Ummm. Did you miss the part about "being held by the Pakastanis?"
:shrug:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:00 PM
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20. post in wrong spot
Edited on Tue May-03-11 03:02 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
Sorry. :D
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:04 PM
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21. she will be better off without him, hopefully she learns what a piece of shit he was
and that she can become something better .
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:34 PM
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23. I had the same thought. OBL carted his family around with him?
The world's most wanted man and he keeps his wife (wives) and children in close proximity demonstrates to me how little he truly cared about their well being or safety. HE wanted them around for HIS convenience regardless of the dire jeopardy they were all in.

Pretty sick if you think about it.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:02 PM
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32. It shows me that he was rather confident of his circumstances
and did not fear being caught/killed.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:37 PM
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34. Well, who else would do the cleaning, cooking, etc. That's wimmen work
doncha know, real men don't stoop to those duties...LOL...
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:41 PM
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25. Why on earth would this thread be receiving UNRECs?
Honestly, I don't normally care, but seems to me that this is an important piece of the puzzle--not based on conjecture....
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:30 PM
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33. Poor kid. At least hitler never reproduced
can you imagine growing up with that stigma?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:38 PM
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35. Lots of kids in the US basically watched their parent die too
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