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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:48 PM
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I've been pondering the death of Osama Bin Laden.
I once considered myself a Taoist. I don't anymore. But I felt this verse is important.

Verse 31 of the Tao Te Ching

Weapons are the tools of violence;
all decent men detest them.

Weapons are the tools of fear;
a decent man will avoid them
except in the direst necessity
and, if compelled, will use them
only with the utmost restraint.
Peace is his highest value.
If the peace has been shattered,
how can he be content?
His enemies are not demons,
but human beings like himself.
He doesn't wish them personal harm.
Nor does he rejoice in victory.
How could he rejoice in victory
and delight in the slaughter of men


He enters a battle gravely,
with sorrow and with great compassion,
as if he were attending a funeral


And you know, the more I read about OBLs death, the less satisfied I am. Maybe my rejoicing was immature, animalistic; the reactionary remains of our intellectual ancestry.

After much reflection, I've come to the conclusion that it's not right to celebrate the killing of a human being. No matter how evil that person may be. No matter how many lives were demolished under the persons accord.

But it is not a question in my mind whether or not we benefit from the death of Osama Bin Laden. He was a terrible man. The world is better off without him in it.

So, in that sense, I am happy that he's gone. But I would have been just as happy if he were in a prison cell. And justice would have been better served if he were alive; forced to face his accusers.

Am I sad that he's dead? Absolutely not. I won't miss a moment's sleep.

Ultimately, who's responsible for his death? Based on what I've read, he is responsible for his death. He has been on the run for almost 2 decades. He was hiding from the truth. But the truth eventually came to him. And what did he do? He tried to silence the truth. He threatened the lives of the soldiers who were sent to bring him out of hiding.

According to reports, he was still very much alive when our soldiers entered the premises. And he did fight. Which ended with two bullets in his head.

What I'm trying to say is that his death was the consequence of a justified response to a threat.

His death is not a flowery, beautiful end. It was a violent, tragic ending to a miserable life. He was a miserable human being.

I'm now inclined to look upon him with horror. Not out of fear of attack. More so because of the sheer depravity of his existence and ultimately the fitting, but nonetheless disturbing, end.

Osama Bin Laden was not a monster. By that, I mean that he was not a product of the supernatural. He was a human being. Which really makes his life and death that much more punctuated.

He's a case study on the deepest, darkest annals of the human experience.





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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:53 PM
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1. You might want to read this short piece from Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-binladen-kill-idUSTRE7413H220110502

This a response to your "He tried to silence the truth. He threatened the lives of the soldiers who were sent to bring him out of hiding." If the Reuters report can be believed, the soliders were sent to kill him.


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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 11:00 PM
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2. Well, that certainly paints a different picture.
Finding out whether or not that's true is an important answer to search for.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 11:12 PM
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 11:16 PM
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4. That's not evidence. That's simply someone positing an idea.
Although I agree there must be evidence presented, that does not mean that such evidence does not exist.

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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 12:12 AM
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5. Yes an idea, supported by a lot of facts..
Is it right? I can't say for sure but it certainly is one of the more intelligent perspectives I have run across on this topic so far. It would be nice if this idea could be presented in the US in a way as honest as this, instead of straw man type mockery...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 12:17 AM
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 12:19 AM
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7. I'm full of shit because I don't believe in conspiracy theories?
You are the embodiment of cliche.

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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 12:21 AM
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8. Alerted n/t
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