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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:43 PM
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Much of the Arab world is in shock today.
Edited on Mon May-02-11 02:30 PM by kentuck
(THIS IS GENERAL DISCUSSION AND THIS IS MY OPINION)

Some have accused the US of assassinating a "Holy Warrior". Some are calling for the overthrow of the Pakistani government for letting this happen.

They thought Osama was invincible. He was a hero to many in the Arab world. After all, he was the only Arab to ever plan such a grand attack on the evil Satan, America.

Pakistan is especially fragile today. Someone, perhaps many, had to know that Osama was in Pakistan and they protected him from American troops. But, this time, America did not inform them or give them billions of dollars to continue their deceitful and lying ways. America went in alone and took care of the "holy warrior" and proceeded to bury his body in the sea. There will be no holy place in any Arab country to worship him. This is severely disappointing to many of Osama's suppporters.

The people in Pakistan will turn upon their leaders. This event will destabilize that country in many ways. They are no ally to America. They should not be trusted. They have proved where their loyalties lie.

These are dangerous and treacherous times in which we now live. Osama bin Laden is dead. But his anger lives on.

edit: changed "most" to "many"
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:44 PM
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1. I also think there are many, many Arabs who are happy he is gone.
Edited on Mon May-02-11 01:44 PM by Arugula Latte
on edit: It's a very complex situation, indeed.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:44 PM
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2. Do you have any links? n/t
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:45 PM
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3. My first thought, exactly
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:48 PM
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5. Heaven Forbid, Sir, a Man Should Express His Own Opinion....
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:52 PM
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9. "Some are calling for the overthrow of the Pakistani government"
I'd like a link.

As for the OP's opinion that the area is fragile, etc. that's fine.

:shrug:
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:52 PM
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"He was a hero to most of the Arab world."
"Not intended to be a statement of fact"
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:52 PM
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11. People asking for links when there is jst an opinion expressed
kills me.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:54 PM
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14. When he purports things as fact to base his opinion upon,
He should be able to back it up:

"He was a hero to most of the Arab world."
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:54 PM
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15. "Some are calling for the overthrow of the Pakistani government"
I'd like a link
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 02:55 PM
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25. I heard it while surfing on TV this morning...
Probably CNN or MSNBC or C-SPAN? Someone was very angry with the Pakistani government for letting it happen on Pakistan soil. Hamas called him a "holy warrior". Sometimes you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:48 PM
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33. Here's a relevant link someone just posted.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:46 PM
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4. I, OTOH, strongly suspect that the majority of Muslims, being moderates,
are quietly happy that Bin Ladin is dead.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:51 PM
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8. Absolutely...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:54 PM
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13. The ones I do aren't exactly thrilled, but they are QUITE relieved, it seems. nt
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:56 PM
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16. The ones I know are happy he is dead, but scared of retaliation.
Just like many of us.
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Appenzell Wars Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 02:04 PM
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19. Now this strikes me as the truth. nt
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 02:46 PM
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24. +1
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 03:31 PM
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29. He killed many more Muslims
with his terrorism than westerners.
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:48 PM
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6. good edit
Edited on Mon May-02-11 01:55 PM by Incitatus
now it's an opinion
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:50 PM
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7. The same thing's happening over at Freerepublic.
Ain't life strange?
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GomezLives Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:52 PM
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10. That cinches it - we should have done nothing
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:53 PM
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12. Unrecced for continuing to demonize Pakistanis indiscriminately.
Some supported OBL, most did not.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:57 PM
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17. I wouldn't say he was a hero to "most of the arab world".
Really it was just a tiny percentage of it.

The problem is that if a tiny percentage of a population is willing to scream their position not only at the top of their lungs, but with explosives strapped to their chest... they seem like a larger group.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 02:01 PM
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18. Link from al-Jazeera ARABIC
Edited on Mon May-02-11 02:05 PM by azurnoir
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 02:05 PM
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20. How in shock? I'd be surprised if outside the US and Pakistan
and maybe Afghanistan, this is much of a deal. Egypt, Tunisia, Bahrain, Libya, Syria, Palestine all have more immediate concerns. Even in Saudi and Jordon, there is a lot going on.

Who is this "they" you are thinking of? Did you read or see something that led you to this conclusion?

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 02:13 PM
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22. LOL NPR says Saudi reaction is "muted"
In Pakistan:

The feeling in much of Pakistan is one of "America, mission accomplished," says NPR's Julie McCarthy in Abbottabad, the site of the operation that killed bin Laden. Now, many Pakistanis say the focus needs to be on ending U.S. military operations in Pakistan.

In Afghanistan:

The news of bin Laden's death has been greeted with a mixed reaction in Afghanistan, where the Saudi militant is believed to have planned the Sept. 11 attacks. Former Taliban officials say bin Laden had long ceased to be a factor in the fight on the ground, and his death will not deter the Taliban's spring offensive.

In Saudi Arabia:

Reaction has been muted to the killing of the Saudi-born bin Laden. The Saudi Press Agency carried a bland statement expressing hope that it would be a "step that supports the international efforts against terrorism."

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/02/135919728/world-reaction-to-osama-bin-ladens-death


Basically goes on to say Sarkozy, Merkel, Cameron gave the expected thumbsup.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 02:12 PM
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21. It's amazing how the unrecing crew is out in strength today
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 02:27 PM
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23. Unsupported statements of "fact" make DU look stupid
Who has accused the US of assassinating a "Holy Warrior?"

Who is calling for the overthrow of the Pakistani government?

:shrug:

The rest is all opinion and that's fine.
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Zebedeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:36 PM
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30. HAMAS
Who has accused the US of assassinating a "Holy Warrior?"

Hamas
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 02:58 PM
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26. they are seeing how he was living in Luxury while calling on others to carry out his holy war
not living in a cave as many were led to believe.

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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 03:17 PM
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28. The only people saying he was living in a cave were internet posters.
And lazy media types. Our military and CIA never said that.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 02:59 PM
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27. My small piece of the Arab world is not in shock
Edited on Mon May-02-11 03:00 PM by JCMach1
Most are feeling like most of the folks here at DU... they hope this will help to finally bring peace. Keep in mind I live and work in a community that has something like 72 different nationalities none of which accounts for more than 25% of the population. This includes Arabs (all sorts), Indians, and Pakistanis.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:38 PM
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31. I'll bet a good majority of Arabs are glad he's gone. nt
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:42 PM
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32. Perhaps
the majority? I don't know.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:50 PM
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34. Well, they still have Bert.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:16 PM
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35. for the record, Pakistan is not an Arab country n/t
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