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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:02 PM
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reminder. do NOT argue with conspiracy people. never works. not fun. logic does. not. matter.
Edited on Mon May-02-11 12:03 PM by seabeyond
i have to remind myself of this periodically. i forget sometimes. be it repug or dem... do. not. do. it.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:03 PM
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1. thats
what they WANT you to think.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:03 PM
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2. who? lol. who are THEY.... by gosh, lol. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:06 PM
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5. Thread win.
Brilliant! :rofl:

(Love ya, SB!) :hi:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:27 PM
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19. brilliant!
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:05 PM
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3. So....you've been "co-opted" too....
:shrug:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:06 PM
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4. no. i never hung with the birthers.... nt
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:15 PM
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6. I think it depends on what you're trying to accomplish
by arguing. If it is to "win" then you cannot but that goes with most topics. If people have their stakes at two opposite positions, defending it at all costs then you can't do it or it certainly isn't "fun". Arguments can reveal how we come to our own conclusions so it can be very helpful, especially when we see where we are wrong. Important to stay on-topic.

If the dispute is factual, than that is very easy to settle. If two disagree what the answer is for 2+2 you look it up.

It gets a little murkier when you are trying to argue which movie or TV show is better.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:19 PM
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7. just an out loud reminder to me. like saying a short form bc works for everyone, that includes
obama. not good enough for birthers. well hell. long form is not good enough either.

stop,... ignore the thread
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:42 PM
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12. I think that is a good example
of staking out a position and defending it all costs. I agree this probably true for a lot of people that buy into conspiracy theories(I myself am open-minded both ways) but I see it on all sorts of topics.

An example off the top of my head is when someone concerned about cannabis starts a thread, usually it has some well known myths usually from a government website or an anti-drug organization(that are heavily funded by alcohol and tobacco industries). The thread will balloon to over 103 replies with many pointing out the facts and next week the same poster starts another thread with some of the same misinformation. Such as gateway.

Now I'm on one side of that fence so it probably isn't a good idea I use that example, but it is the first thing that came to mind. However, I imagine there are those on my side of the fence are very closed minded about any facts that don't outright agree with.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:51 PM
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15. was thinkin. like the palin trig thing. from experience and knowledge i can say, her birth
was not what she says. that simple. but that is as far as i can go on it. there has to be something there to push it to the point of "know"
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:43 PM
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13. Every time I see short form BC I think birth control.
And short form birth control would be bad.

Sorry for being off topic. It's a weird day at my house.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:52 PM
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16. lol lol, i hear ya. funny. nt
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:26 PM
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8. you're a " conspiracy person" if you question
the government official statements? :tinfoilhat:

they tell me they killed the boogeyman. now everything is fine. you're safer now. go back to sleep my little sheep.
:patriot:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:52 PM
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17. is that what i said? oh wait... no, it is not. nt
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:28 PM
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9. Thank you for this!
I needed the reminder! It's just so ridiculously bizarre to see DUers subscribe to these far fetched conspiracies!
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:32 PM
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10. What conspiracies? Name those you are talking about.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:41 PM
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11. Start with "Osama has been dead for years, on ice at CIA headquarters"
Doesn't make sense, If Osama was on ice, Bush would have thawed him out before the end of his term.

Anyway, seen more than a few threads with that theme.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:46 PM
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14. Okay, so who put you up to this?
And how long has it been planned?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 12:53 PM
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18. ah hahaha. that actually was out loud. thanks. nt
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:30 PM
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20. Well,
when it comes to things like the JFK assassination, Roswell, Area 51, September 11th...official government statements don't make sense.

Granted, they may or may not be conspiracies, I just think there's better explanations that need to be found.
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