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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 11:56 AM
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All you need to know about Politico: this is their source for a "shocking" revelation about Barack
Obama, Sr.--a tiny little third-rate paper in a VERY red area of very red Arizona. It's an EDITORIAL.

A telling comment from the "source":
If Jacobs’ book is not the reason for withholding the information, then what is? Could it be that the Boston Globe, widely regarded as newspaper with a liberal slant, was trying to protect President Obama? Or maybe the Boston Globe is trying to protect its neighbors at Harvard? These conspiracy theories are probably not reality, but the actions –- or inactions — of the Boston Globe open itself to such criticism.


OR--there's the very real possibility that the Boston Globe took its responsibility to the public seriously and didn't run with the story because it couldn't verify it.

Here's the original "story": http://www2.az-independent.com/2011/04/30/commentary-boston-globes-big-secret/

Oh, and one more thing:

FUCK POLITICO.

They are simply Matt Drudge in Ralph Lauren.
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 11:59 AM
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1. Hey, I hear ya bondeatlast.....
:toast:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:02 PM
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2. Isn't it from a FOIA request for Obama Sr's INS records?
Edited on Sun May-01-11 12:04 PM by dkf
Why not accept it for what it is. We already knew Obama Sr was kind of a louse.

This makes our President's life even more of a triumph.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:03 PM
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3. Reading comprehension fail. why do you think the BG didn't print the story?
I know you like to dodge direct questions, but I can always hope.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:14 PM
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4. They probably didn't feel like inserting this into the media.
That doesn't make it untrue.

Maybe other papers had the info on John Edwards too but declined to print because they didn't want to delve into what they felt was enquirer territory. It is pretty sordid stuff.

From the AP article via Politico:

"The immigration memos, contained in the elder Obama’s Immigration and Naturalization file, were given to a Boston Globe reporter in 2009 through a Freedom of Information request. The papers were first made public Wednesday by The Arizona Independent, a weekly newspaper. The Associated Press obtained copies of them on Friday."

So these are direct sources.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53968.html#ixzz1L6iF1TGR
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:33 PM
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8. wtf?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:37 PM
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10. The Politico article is actually from the AP based on FOIA papers originally from the Boston Globe.
It's quite a sad account. I'm not sure who looks worse.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:40 PM
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11. The Politico article links directly to the AI as its source.
And I'm still asking you to just once, answer my direct question posed in post #3. You dodged the "birther" question the other day.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:46 PM
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13. This is the Politico article I read.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:47 PM
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14. One and the same. You do know why "The Airzona Independent" is in blue type, don't you?
Meh.

Thanks for playing.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:14 PM
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5. Much ado about nothing.Gossip while democracy is being banned.
That only wounds by hearsay."
- William Shakespeare
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:26 PM
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6. Fascinating record of racism.
"the adviser said Obama had been “running around with several girls since he first arrived here and last summer she cautioned him about his playboy ways.”"

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53968.html#ixzz1L7ev2wLh

Would such a conversation have taken place between an academic advisor and a government official if the man in question hadn't been black? Would it be a scandal for a fashionable, James Bond-esque European man to be "running around with several girls"?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:42 PM
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12. back in the day when folks wanted to lynch a black guy they would accuse him of...
...seducing and raping white women. The racism is obvious.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 01:27 PM
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18. I agree it was probably racism-driven (and maybe also class-ism) but one other possible factor
In the early 60s, and also much later than that, it was not at all unusual for graduate faculty and staff to nose into grad. students' personal lives. And, in your analogy, James Bond is not married, so "running around" for men (not for women) was much less disapproved of, in the early 60s.
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 02:11 PM
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19. He was an undergrad when his adviser said that
and he had told the adviser he was divorced.

An unmarried male undergrad criticized in official documents for "running around with girls."

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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 03:18 PM
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22. Thanks for the correction, but also, note that the UG adviser did not believe the divorce lie.
Edited on Sun May-01-11 03:43 PM by spooky3
"In 1961, while he was an undergraduate student at the University of Hawaii, the school’s foreign student adviser called an immigration official and said Obama had recently married StanleyAnn Dunham - the president’s mother - despite already having a wife in Kenya.

According to a memo written by an INS official in Honolulu, the adviser said Obama had been “running around with several girls since he first arrived here and last summer she cautioned him about his playboy ways.”

Obama told the adviser that he had divorced his wife in Kenya.

He told the president’s mother the same thing, though she would later learn it was a lie.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53968.html#ixzz1L8NS2mQr"

Of course, as others have said here, the veracity of the entire report is suspect. But if this part of the report is true, he may indeed have been married to his wife in Kenya at the time that the adviser made that statement, and the adviser didn't believe the student's lie. In fact, even though she disapproved of the "running around", she apparently didn't call the immigration service until she believed he had crossed the bigamy line.

My point is not that any of this has anything to do with the President (it doesn't), or that it is racism-free (I believe it IS racist), but it was not that unusual for a university in the 1960s to be nosy and restrictive. And if at U of Hawaii UGs talked regularly to an adviser, it's entirely possible that the adviser was nosy with others as well. And in this case, the adviser seems to have been factually correct about the marital status, so I don't buy the James Bond analogy. Lots of ifs here, though, I realize.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:32 PM
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7. Politico is a steaming pile of shit but beltway politicians love it
It sucks, you know it and I know it.

But our senators and congresscritters think the sun shines out of politico's ass and every word that appears there is like a dictate from god.

What is even worse, they think we are stupid enough to agree with them. And consequently they are scared shitless to stand up to whores like politico.

These people really do need to spend more time in their districts.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:36 PM
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9. politico is always the choice to argue the rethuglican side
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:50 PM
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15. i'm confused. i read the article and i have to ask . . . what IS the
Edited on Sun May-01-11 12:53 PM by ellenfl
big story? as far as i can see, there's no 'there' there. what do obama senior's college pecadillos have to do with our president? imo, the boston globe writer did not withhold anything that was newsworthy. what am i missing?

btw, politico has been right-leaning from its beginning, albeit to the left of fox, which is not saying much.

ellen fl
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 01:27 PM
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17. Exactly--but wait and see if this doesn't take off, crappy sourcing and all.
The whole point here is that the BG probably had really good reasons not to run the story and my state's 4th rate newspaper ran with it--and Politico picked it up from THEM.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 03:09 PM
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21. I read it online in the Globe Friday. Are you saying it is good they didn't run it in 2009?
I'm confused.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 01:20 PM
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16. And Bush Jr. is an alcoholic, and his wife was involved in a fatal car crash and she was driving....
and none of this was ever really mentioned when he ran for re-election.

So I don't get this.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 02:20 PM
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20. Eh, Matt Drudge in Target's Merona wear...
Since Matt Drudge wears Wal-Mart.
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