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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:40 PM
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If Obama is going to force us to buy insurance from the ethically challenged
Health insurance industry he should make actions putting profits ahead of fulfilling the companies clearly stated obligations to provide services criminally punishable.

Individuals who act arbitrarily in denying important and needed care should also be financially and criminally liable for bad medical outcomes that their conduct played a role in.

That is the least of what I demand for being forced to buy products from an industry who has shown continual bad behavior in the pursuit of money money money.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:08 PM
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1. Absolutely
They need to be accountable. Without a doubt. Huge oversight and stringent enforcement. Insurance 'Professionals' should be under the microscope of the public.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:33 PM
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2. You radical leftist! You dare demand accountability?!?
Don't you know we need a mandate so big insurance doesn't get hosed by shady consumers? We can worry about keeping the predatory monopoly in line, making sure people can afford services and treatment, and choice of who screws them later.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:28 PM
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5. That IS funny. Protect the insurance companies by imposing mandates
And raising the fine for non compliance when they are screwing us, not us them. There should at least be evidence of widespread abuse before they are allowed to raise these objections.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 03:42 PM
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3. You can't demand anything
This is what they're doing, and they'll send the IRS after you if you don't comply. You never had a place at the table, so how are you planning on making them playing fair with us?
:evilgrin:
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 09:23 PM
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4. Yeah.
Because they've been so big on holding wrongdoers accountable so far.
Hardly a week goes by that we don't see some of the people that tortured or lied us into wars or destroyed the economy for profit hauled in front of a court and given the harshest of penalties.

No, I suspect the first time one of our mandated insurance companies kills a bunch of people we'll hear a bunch of shit about looking forward. We're already being told by other Democrats how much good the insurance industry does, and they haven't even killed anyone in our name yet.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:24 AM
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6. For-profit health "care" (or denial of care, rather) is an abomination.

Putting private profits over people's health, well being and lives is deeply immoral, and doesn't take place in any other industrialized country. Time to join the rest of civilized world, to hell with the "uniquely American way" of health care ("uniquely American way" = profits over people).

I honestly can't BELIEVE this travesty of a "reform". :shrug:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:40 AM
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7. The House of Representatives and the Senate will be responsible too.
It does, after all, take more than one person to make decisions and sausage.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:03 PM
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8. Obama DOES have the last word.
His IS the LAST signature before it becomes LAW.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:42 PM
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9. Yes. Takes a while to get there.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 02:54 PM
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10. complete cave-in to the republican anti-government movement
The White House lacks the courage to represent the people's interest here clearly they've sided on the side of the Insurance Lobbyists that donated heavily during the campaign.

If the policy compels the taxpayer without employer-provided healthcare to spend money for insurance, it damn well better be 100% not for profit and run by the government with strict accountability.

Giving up on "expanded medicare for the uninsured" just validates the frame that both neo-liberal and neo-conservatives share: "government is the problem"

I guess we were warned about Obama's fondness for Reagan during the campaign. Of course we hoped it was just his speeches that he admired about Reagan, and not Reagan's neo-fascist policies.
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