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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 03:38 PM
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Michele Bachmann on Fallon's show....
I'm a bit disgusted by how lightly the issue of her on the show is being taken. Don't get me wrong from the left are saying it was off but in a very off handed way. I'm not getting major sincerity from their dislike of Fallon's actions. Now I find Bachmann to be a liar and definitely someone who is a racist and makes no apologies for her outrageous comments. However I know for a fact that if the same action was done against HRC or any woman on the D side there would be uproar on this site for days on end. I also recognize this is not an R site.

But I'm a bit appalled by the sexism and disrespect that was exhibited on the show was actually praised and/or, shockingly enough for me, found amusing to people on the left. I was truly insulted and I really dislike that woman. But it just goes to show the lack of respect women in general have --- it would seem political ideology indirectly permits sexist actions. Says a lot about the dehumanization of people---particularly by people who call themselves Liberals.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 03:45 PM
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1. Agreed. As despicable as Bachmann is, I found this offensive too.
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UAWONE Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:00 PM
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2. Michele Bachmann on Fallon's show....
Oh PLEASE lighten up .
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:12 AM
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9. Don't tell me to "lighten up."
Would you have said the same if some right wing clown did that to HRC?! Doubtful
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:13 AM
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10. No she didn't.
I don't agree with her and as I said...she's a bonafide racist. But we have to show a better standing. We're no better than them when we go down to their level. And the music was uncalled for and was 100% sexist.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 11:23 AM
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22. Shame on you. Are you
the kind of male who thinks rape victims have it coming, too?
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 04:42 PM
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4. Michele Bachmann is not a good person
It has nothing to do with ideology. Down deep at her core, "things rank and gross possess her merely".
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:16 AM
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11. I never said she was.
However, there are right wingers who feel the same and for their own reasons about HRC or Michelle Obama---would you have been okay if the same treatment was done to them if they went on Hannity's show or another right wing show? I sincerely doubt you would and yet you defend the actions when it comes to this woman. I'm shocked to read so many people defending these actions. They are sexist. We are in a modern era...it doesn't matter what she does...but I would think we'd show a different standing where we remove ourselves from sexism in any form.

Yet you defend it. Shit like this makes me sick.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 11:04 PM
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5. Didn't see the interview
Edited on Thu Nov-24-11 11:05 PM by bigwillq
As far as her entrance music, the show should not have done that.

However, I heard she didn't say anything about it until the next day (obviously after someone told her the lyrics of the entrance music).
If she was so appalled by it, shouldn't she have said something right then and there.
The fact is, she didn't know she was being insulted until someone told her she was and then she decided to make a big stink about it.

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:21 AM
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12. Uh...a moment.
She probably didn't make out the lyrics to the song right then and there. I know I can tune out background noise when I am with people and focusing on the person I'm dealing with. So I don't see what the timing has to do with anything. Secondly, this has nothing to do with Michele Bachmann's response to the situation.

This has to do with OUR response to it and the mere fact that so many on this thread are defending sexist behaviour. It's not about whether she was insulted or not---it's the fact so many "LIBERALS" choose/chose to ignore the sexism and mistreatment for their own amusement. It's appalling behaviour on our part.

Other than the ones who found the actions disgusting from the start---most people are defending this. I don't even want to know what kinds of excuses would be made in regards to race, since gender is such a non-issue because of personal feelings towards a person.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 09:22 AM
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18. I was offended when the band played Red, Red, Wine
when Kathie Lee was a guest.

Alcoholism is a serious disease.

How dare they mock it?
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 11:10 PM
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6. She is a liar. And if she wants to be president, she will have to get used to ...
...being called far worse names than the B word.

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:27 AM
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13. Your statement is one of the worst I've read. I could see someone saying...
Herman Cain should get used to being called "the N word" if he wants to be President. To you, the B word may not be a big deal. But it is for many women. It's a mark of a sexist society. Don't get me wrong...there have been women who have turned my craw to that level like Angel when she publicly advocated that women who are pregnant by rape should be forced to have the child. But I have felt disgusting and apologetic when I even thought that. Because I let my personal feelings dehumanize this person and allowed myself to push a sexist agenda---and I'm female. And I've been making a concerted effort to go beyond that. I think we should see that this is the same of the same. Our personal feelings on the woman shouldn't deter from the fact she's a human and that calling her that is just wrong.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 11:17 AM
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19. you are getting all upset by the song a band played on a late night comedy show
did they sing the words? No , they did not.

Look at what the president has been called- has he gotten all up in arms and 'oh poor me everyone is picking on me?' No, he has not. She shouldn't either.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 08:30 AM
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17. But she doesn't lie NEARLY as much as the others!
Cain, Gingrich, and Romney run rings around Bachmann when it comes to lies. When Bachmann says something crazy or wrong that she truly believes, that is not actually a "lie". That is being "misguided and misinformed". She is wrong in her policies (by my standards) on just about every issue, but it is difficult to argue that she is inconsistent or insincere, like the other leading candidates. She mischaracterizes Obama frequently, but again the others are way, WAY out in front for dishonesty and dissembling. (Seen the latest Romney ad?)

We got all upset when Cain said "Princess Nancy", yet we defend to the death our right to publicly insult this woman. What's wrong with us? Are we hypocrites like the wingnuts? They do this all the time. Looks like we do too. How sad.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 11:20 AM
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21. Nobody has to get
used to be called the b word.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 11:51 PM
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7. YOU ARE CORRECT
she's a liar but that should be exposed through skillful interviewing, not underhanded garbage like that
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:27 AM
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14. +1. n/t
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The Genealogist Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 02:25 AM
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8. It was inappropriate for them to play that song
It was not cute, it was not funny, it was not interesting. Whoever planned the song to be included, whoever greenlighted it, and the band that played it were wrong to participate in the action.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:28 AM
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15. I couldn't agree more. n/t
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 08:23 AM
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16. I could not agree more!!
It does appear, often, that sexism is still very much alive and well in this country.

I totally disagree with Bachmann's policies and with the notion that she could ever be president, but that is no excuse for that type of treatment.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 11:19 AM
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20. Reading the comments
posted - I thought I was on the wrong site. For once I was with her totally.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 06:33 PM
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23. I was mildly amused by it, but I agree that it was completely unnecessary
Not that I have any idea who Jimmy Fallon is but Questlove should know better.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:59 PM
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24. agreed. some of the holier than thou left... ugh.
Edited on Sat Nov-26-11 09:00 PM by Whisp
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 10:22 PM
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25. The furor has nothing to do with the song.
It's a non-troversy designed to stir the pot and generate press, nothing more.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 10:27 PM
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26. I agree with you. Why stoop to the level of what the Republicans do?
I thought Dems were above implying it was okay for women (regardless of their political party) to be called bitches. Or at least get a song played implying that one was, in fact, a bitch.
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