Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

When the going gets tough on Keystone XL, Obama goes … golfing

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 06:39 PM
Original message
When the going gets tough on Keystone XL, Obama goes … golfing
Edited on Sun Nov-06-11 06:41 PM by KoKo

(And, Who can blame him...? He doesn't have any authority over Keystone Pipeline ...it's up to Congress and this deal has been in the works for a long time with Canada....This is from a Canada Website)

----------
WASHINGTON – A bright, clear, sunny November morning has greeted the environmentalists gathering Sunday at the White House to protest TransCanada’s Keystone XL pipeline. Several thousand activists are here to “surround” the White House in a human chain in a bid to convince President Barack Obama the pipeline is a bad idea.

Obama, for his part, took the opportunity presented by Sunday’s great weather to bolt the White House via motorcade – well in advance of the protest – for a golf game at Fort Belvoir in Virginia. Let’s be clear – this is a regular weekend golf outing for POTUS, one he’d likely be making regardless of whether there were thousands of protesters outside his house.

The Keystone XL protest is drawing quite the crowd of big names, from Oscar-nominated actor Mark Ruffalo to Obama’s fellow Nobel Peace Prize winner Jody Williams to John Adams, the founding director of the Natural Resources Defense Council. Adams, not so long ago, was invited into the White House last February to receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Obama himself.

Ruffalo appeared Sunday morning on CTV’s Question Period, and had this to say:



“If we’re serious about climate change and we are honest with ourselves about the issues we face as a world … then we have to face this issue head-on, and exploding the tarsands is not the way to do it. What we really need for energy independence is a renewable energy platform, a plan that’s going to start taking us away from oil, not facilitating its use.”


http://blogs.canada.com/2011/11/06/when-the-going-gets-tough-on-keystone-xl-obama-goes-golfing/

Refresh | 0 Recommendations Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 06:46 PM
Response to Original message
1. He does have total authority over Keystone Pipeline, Congress has NO SAY in it. Anyone saying other
wise is lying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. From what I've read ...he doesn't have ANY power but to Veto...and that wouldn't be wise
given the jobs it will produce in the states that are affected by it..along with Canadian Jobs.

So I don't think you are correct in what you say. But, if you have a link to difference I'd like to see it. I think it's a "done deal" because of our trade agreements with Canada and the need for jobs in US.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Try this link. Evidently the WH believes they have the authority
Edited on Sun Nov-06-11 07:29 PM by Vincardog
< http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Obama+vows+weigh+environmental+risks+Keystone+decision/5641868/story.html>
"In his most extensive remarks yet about the Keystone XL project, Obama indicated White House would be making the final call on the $7 billion pipeline after receiving recommendations from the U.S. State Department."

Read more: http://www.canada.com/technology/Obama+vows+weigh+environmental+risks+decision+Keystone+pipeline/5641868/story.html#ixzz1cyUdg4wP

I find it interesting that the Obama apologists can insist that he has NO authority to do anything and that he is totally responsible for everything they want to claim on his watch.
Funny that
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Here's my problem with what the President said on this...it seemed to be
a "waffle" which we know politicians are prone to do." And, Obama needs to have these jobs...so he's waffling to push it off (maybe hoping something else comes up) but, in the end, the deal will be approved given what we've seen of him from the past. He is Pragmatic...and that's why he is so loved. He says: "My General attitude is, what's best for the health of the American People." (Our DU experience with Obama is that the "ECONOMY" is "what's best for the health of the American People" and NOT...our Environment or Air Quality. Obama feels that a "full belly for our children and jobs for their Mothers and Fathers would outweigh whether there is sickness caused by the refinement of the Tar Sands in Texas that will waft over the Southeast US (already having high asthma and other repiratory problems because of our Coal Burning) and that the Northeast where the Banksters are in NYC will escape the gaseous fumes because of the ocean currents in NYC/LI/Greenwich Ct. and the other places the financial oligarchs call home. It's a trade off for him. And, I don't know that I could do different given the "time and place" this President of USA is in the scheme of what's going on with Global Climate Change and Global Meltdown. :shrug: He's a pragmatist. Not, a Humanist.
-----------

From your first Link:

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama on Tuesday suggested it could be "several months" before he decides whether to approve Calgary-based TransCanada Corp.'s Keystone XL pipeline — and said environmental concerns would weigh just as significantly in his ruling as U.S. energy security or economic growth.

In his most extensive remarks yet about the Keystone XL project, Obama indicated the White House would be making the final call on the $7 billion pipeline after receiving recommendations from the U.S. State Department.

"My general attitude is, what's best for the American people? What is best for our economy both short term and long term, but also what is best for the health of the American people?" Obama said in an interview with a Nebraska television station.


Read more: http://www.canada.com/technology/Obama+vows+weigh+environmental+risks+decision+Keystone+pipeline/5641868/story.html#ixzz1cyYe0uoV
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. So now you admit that it is Obama's call?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 06:53 PM
Response to Original message
2. I'm waiting to see if he kicks this can down the road until after
the election. He has played it very coy with this. K/R
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 07:00 PM
Response to Original message
3. Gotta love the "gotcha" style
Lead with an accusatory, sensationalist grabber headline that implies That do-nothing President Obama ducks protesters! - and then quietly embed a comment in the article that that isn't TRULY the case.

They're learning well from the U.S. Corporate MSM.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. if the prez didn't have some fun time
he'd go certified nuts; yes INDEED
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. It's good to have fun time. I think anyone can
look past that dumb line. I really hope he won.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. The article I posted and what I said..says exactly that. No one blames him for going Golfing...at
all. You rush to judgement and didn't even read my post.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. I'm just making a comment
apparently you are rushing to judgement
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 07:44 PM
Response to Original message
7. that's nice. i hope he got a birdie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:16 AM
Response to Original message
12. If this had been Bush, we would be all over him.
Since it's Obama, he gets a pass.

:D
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 12:24 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC