WTF - President Obama 38/55 on Gallup today

[Hawaii Hiker]

So i guess now some are blaming him for not being able to go down to Virgina Beach, stick out his hand and make Hurricane Irene go away...

I don't know, something seems amiss when the President who killed the worlds most wanted terrorist just 3 months ago is sitting at a 38/55 approval/disapproval, :banghead:

[otohara]

1. Group Blame

Everything is his fault

[MilesColtrane]

2. His approval rating won't start going up until unemployment figures start going down.

This will make the 2012 election.......interesting, to say the least.

[Blasphemer]

6. I think they will go up a bit before that (I think he's hit his threshold lows) but basically... yes

I can see him getting back up to the low 40s even if nothing significantly changes. His potential opponents are getting some positive attention at the moment but that will change. Still, you are right, his approval rating is tied to the country's economic realities. If the numbers start moving below 38%, then I may finally add a question mark to his re-election chances. I guess we'll see.

[1StrongBlackMan]

52. I wonder ...

If that will be enough for many at this site?

When the unemployment numbers go down, will the next critical narrative be about the "quality" of the jobs?

Or, if the unemployment numbers are forced down through infrastructure spending, will the critical narrative be about longevity of the jobs?

No ... from my observations, there is little PRESIDENT OBAMA can do to approve his Approval rating at this site, unless he behaves in the manner that we all criticized President Bush. President Bush ran rough-shod over Democrats and American public opinion. And that's what we seem to want from PRESIDENT OBAMA.

[MilesColtrane]

61. Fortunately the users of this site don't reflect the overall voting public in...

approval/disapproval of Obama.

People here generally seem to be much more critical.

[wndycty]

3. If the right had turned on Bush the way the left has turned on Obama Kerry would have won in 2004

:kick:

[Vincardog]

12. Kerry did win in 2004

[MannyGoldstein]

18. Bush didn't turn on his base. nt

[ClarkUSA]

19. Neither has Pres. Obama. A vast majority of us have always approved & still approve of him.

A small negative minority do not speak for the Democratic base.

[MannyGoldstein]

20. Obama won the election with a convincing majority

because he endorsed traditional Democratic ideas. Now he's to the right of even most Republicans on Social Security, medicare, Medicaid, war, and many other issues.

And now his base, the American people, have noted his rush to the far right: http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx

[ClarkUSA]

27. "he's to the right of even most Republicans on Social Security, medicare, Medicaid, war"? Prove it.

[MannyGoldstein]

35. Pick one, I'll provide the evidence. nt

[ClarkUSA]

53. All of them. Use credible sources, not a link to your self-reverential blog.

[MannyGoldstein]

57. Reverential or referential?

No matter, it's neither.

Start with one and we'll see how it goes.

[ClarkUSA]

58. So you have no proof for your laughably vitriolic claim? How predictable.

[MannyGoldstein]

69. Yes, that's exactly what I said

Thanks for playing.

[Dawgs]

46. You've ignored the hundreds of times it's been proven in the past.

Why would someone expect you to listen now? :shrug:

[ClarkUSA]

54. That's a false accusation. Prove your claim.

[Dawgs]

72. Your response proved it for me. n/t

[Tesha]

56. That's right: Obama still *STRONGLY SUPPORTS* all his DLC-like values.

He still supports his true base. He just isn't quite
so hot on supporting old-style Democratic values.

Tesha

[ClarkUSA]

59. Empty rhetoric. Prove your claims.

[Tesha]

62. It's been done. (NT)

[ClarkUSA]

64. So you have nothing to prove your claim except more empty rhetoric? Figures.

[Tesha]

71. No, I just won't waste my time attempting to jump through your hoops.

Many folks have answered you in the past and yet
you still demand the same answers.

Based on this, one cam only conclude that your intent
is to waste people's time.

Tesha

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[Enthusiast]

38. Kerry won in 2004.

Obama could change the entire dynamic if he came out in support of organized labor and strengthening the social safety net. I mean he could do this in no uncertain terms. Desperate voters don't want to hear any more wiggle words.

I'm 58 years old. I've never felt so negative toward my nation in my entire life, not even during the Vietnam War.

Let's be clear about this. President Obama knows perfectly well that there is huge popular support for labor. He knows perfectly well there is enormous support for ending the wars. He knows a huge majority of the American voter want taxes increased on the wealthy. He knows the American people want an infrastructure project that could employ thousands of us.

[ladjf]

40. Bush ran and served as a Republican. Obama ran as a Democrat

and has been closer to being a Republican than a Democrat. That is a good way to alienate the base.

[okieinpain]

76. thank you, thank you, thank you.... n/t.

[tblue]

4. Maybe killing the terrorist isn't everybody's first priority

He can turn this around if he wants to. I really believe it's his election to lose.

[Enthusiast]

41. Many of us have come to the realization

that we probably wouldn't even have terrorists if we would stop these unnecessary invasions of foreign nations. That and meddling in foreign affairs in a clandestine way.

[Ishoutandscream2]

5. HH, I think it's all about the economy

No matter what, Obama will be blamed. Unfortunately, that goes with the office.

[AtomicKitten]

7. He's being hammered by the entire GOP bench.

When the GOP candidate emerges, the polls will change.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

81. He's not only been hammered by the entire GOP bench. He's been beaten and battered

by Democrats themselves. Saddest thing is that this party's lack of organization and divisiveness will lead to a Republicans onslaught in 2012 unless we get it together and start working for our candidates, Obama included.

[vroomvroom]

8. You're Surprised? You do realize he he has been placating to republicans and..

has mostly republicans in his cabinet. It was only a matter of time before his #s sunk to such low levels. His focus has never been about Jobs. He has been so focused on republican talking points (e.g. reducing debt) that it seems anything the republicans want to talk about he will look to next.

Obama will NOT listen to progressives and he and his staff openly dismiss the Left so i really am not surprised that his #s are so low.

They have nothing to do with the hurricane. This 38 approval has been that way for a few weeks now.

If he wants to turn them around he needs REALLY focus on Jobs, not look for more Republican browny points....after 3 years he hasnt learned yet that no matter how much you kiss republicans they will still hate you.

[Vincardog]

14. No Democrat will have good poll numbers if he has a REPUBLICAN cabinet and Republican POLICIES nt

[Hawaii Hiker]

16. I know he has basically stuck his middle finger out to the liberal base

and i still can't get over the press briefing months ago when Gibbs just railed on progressives the one time..It was sickening...

However, President Obama DOES have some accomplishments that are considered pretty damn good, including, but not limited to:

Killing Bin Laden
Repeal DADT
New START Treaty
Sotomayor and Kagan
Credit Card Reform Bill from 2009
HCR

Sure, I'm angered that Obama keeps trying to compromsie w/these despicable GOP bastards, but he still should not be upside down at 38/55...It took Bush killing New Orleans' residents (Katrina) for him to finally sink to the 30's...I mean Bush won re-election (somehow) after it was known what a farce the Iraq War was..

[woo me with science]

30. Yup. nt

[indepat]

9. Reaching a grand bargain with repugs setting the framework to gut social security and

Medicare on the heels of extending tax cuts for the uber-wealthy does not give some the warm fuzzies. :patriot:

[Enthusiast]

43. It doesn't do much for me,

or millions of others, apparently.

[jefferson_dem]

10. Weekends are wierd for pollsters.

Yesterday was especially messed up. That one-day big dip for Obama is noise.

[former9thward]

37. Nothing to do with the weekend.

It is a three day average ending Thursday, Aug. 25th. And it was not a "one day big dip", it was a 1% drop from the previous average of 39% approval. http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

[Fearless]

11. Well I guess people are tired of compromising Democratic ideals away.

[woo me with science]

31. +1 When you claim to stand for one group of people,

but actually work toward the interests of another, people catch on eventually.

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[INdemo]

15. It is what the corporate media wants to hear..never mind

that the polls are lopsided or are stacked with Repukes or maybe only 100 people surveyed..Its a poll and gives the corporate media a poll to bury in the minds of as many as possible.

[Lyric]

17. Killing impresses Republicans a lot more than it impresses Democrats.

Democrats are impressed by jobs, the social safety net, and people who advocate tirelessly in favor of relief for the working class. It wouldn't matter if he single-handedly delivered the second coming of Jesus to Jerusalem--American right-wingers are not EVER going to "approve" of him. The drop in his approval rating is coming from his own side--and Democrats just aren't as likely to swoon over the President's latest manly "kill" as right-wingers are when THEIR President kills somebody.

Sorry to disappoint.

:shrug:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. It's The Economy, Stupid (Not You)

Everything else is commentary.

[jenmito]

22. Even (R)asmussen has him at higher approval/lower disapproval at 46/54. n/t

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[David__77]

25. Unsurprising. Surprised it's not lower.

...

[liberalpragmatist]

26. Most likely the hurricane knocked out respondents from the NE

It's a tracking poll based on a 3-day sample. He was at 41 yesterday - most likely he had a really bad sample yesterday because the hurricane knocked out respondents from the NE where his approval ratings are higher.

Still, the overall trend is at about 40%, which is largely due to the economy and continued bad feelings about the debt ceiling debacle. If growth picks up some in the fall and spring, his numbers should climb. If it stalls, though, he could well fall into the mid-30s, which is actually where you'd expect a president to be based on the economy. His polling numbers have actually been a good deal higher than you would expect, staying in the mid-40s most of the past year and a half. That may now be wearing off since things look like they're actively getting worse.

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[former9thward]

77. It was a three day tracking poll which ended Thursday.

That was well before the Storm hit the NE.

[MIB modelisbroken]

29. We need to stand up to the banks, HE NEEDS TO STAND UP TO THE BANKS!

People are not in to politics. The only thing that people are really seeing is that they are playing in a losing game and that NOBODY is there to get them out of it. I wish that I could feel that our Government was seriously realizing the obvious and getting us out of it. Unfortunately the majority of politicians (in all branches) our operating in a system that, well let's just say, does not necessarily have the peoples interest (that is well being, life in peace and positive contribution to the world) at heart.

Bold actions are needed. Changing the course and direction of a country requires a bold act, as it is a BOLD undertaking. In my book, there is no time for vacation. (and I am not, and I do not want to debate vacations, or the taking of there of) I just see that I know more people that can not take a vacation than can. And most of those that are taking vacations do not even understand or realize that they can not financially really afford to take one. This is why the poles are low. People were promised change. Not the same 'ol same with look, we can't work together, but look we captured, wait I mean killed Bin Laden. But we are not going to prove that to you, just take our word on it. SIDEBAR ON THAT: Anyone out there aware of how the whole Bin Laden thing was covered and reported differently in Europe as to the USA??? Really crazy isn't it?

Anyway, this is why the poles are low along with the fact that everyone knows something really wrong is happening. They can feel it, and it is not the change they are looking for.

[woo me with science]

32. People do not support the defense of corruption. nt

[MIB modelisbroken]

33. Care to elaborate?

[woo me with science]

34. Well, most recently,

Defending the corrupt banks and outrageously and shamelessly pressuring for a settlement that will end and prevent many further investigations and bestow immunity on criminals.

But take your pick. Warmongering - continuation and expansion of immoral, illegal wars and refusal to prosecute war criminals - and advocating theft from promised Social Security funds in order to FUND the above warmongering and provide tax cuts to billionaires are pretty damned good examples, too.



People are sick of being told that this administration shares their values and goals, and then seeing it work for corporate interests, no matter how corrupt.

[MIB modelisbroken]

39. Any real candidates out there?

I am really trying to search for someone to get on board with. I know that it is almost certainly futile, I mean with taking out Osama and all, but I am REALLY HOPING for change. I think that we have only began to see the true significance that the internet can have.

Anyone interesting out there catching your eye?

[woo me with science]

42. What do you mean, "what with taking out Osama and all"?

What does that have to do with "real candidates"?

[MIB modelisbroken]

44. Pound it home

All the Obama campaign will need to do is pound that and ride it home. It does not have much else that people are buying.

[woo me with science]

49. IMO, you vastly overestimate the importance of that event

in the minds of Americans.

People are focused on the fact that they increasingly cannot afford to pay for shelter, feed their children, see a doctor, or retire...and neither party appears to give a shit because they are too busy boot-licking the corporations.

If Obama wins, it will be only because the Republican candidate appeared somewhat more horrible.

[Enthusiast]

45. Great post!....nt

[treestar]

36. Weird, because nothing is happening right now

These polls must reflect people's moods, and they are projecting them onto the President.

[Dawgs]

47. Who's lives were affected by Osama's death? n/t

[DCBob]

48. This is still carryover from the debt fiasco plus continued economy and jobs problems.

I wouldnt worry about it for now. Alot of shit is going to hit the fan between now and next fall. Those numbers will go up and down and up and down and hopefully up just ahead of the elections.

[craigmatic]

50. The economy sucks bin laden is dead and we're still at war so it really hasn't mattered much in the

long term.

[BlueIris]

51. Nothing is going to keep those numbers propped up.

I won't be surprised if he finishes at 18 or 19 (seriously.) It's an inevitable consequence of these policies and the tactics he used to put them in place.

[NorthCarolina]

55. Might have something to do with his call for changes to Social Security and Medicare. nt

[LWolf]

60. Or, on the other hand, it might have something to do

with his appallingly neo-liberal economic policies, his Reaganesque words and actions, his obsession with pleasing Republicans while dissing the left, labor, education, the environment....

[Ter]

63. Yeah, WTF, it's that high?

n/t

[Autumn]

65. Not a surprise. The economy sucks.

Although I can't figure out how killing Osama improved our lives any. I can't imagine anyone giving a shit about that or voting for him because he killed Osama.

[GSLevel9]

66. It's all perspective I guess...

It has nothing to do with the Overblown Hurricane "Fizzle"...

Obama's popularity is suffering because the economy is miserable and like it or not... the POTUS wears the economy around his neck.

In addition... many feel betrayed by his war mongering, corporate fellatio and all too cozy relationship with national banks.

So failure has pissed off 45% of Americans (Pubs) plus a chunk of Independents...

And failure to do what he promised has pissed off maybe 20% of dems...

Add it up and be lucky it's 38/55.

And BTW... in the real non-pom pom world Obama is credited with being "at the helm" while the professional military and intelligence community killed OBL.

[Hawaii Hiker]

70. Yeah, but somehow i have a feeling if it were President McCain who

ordered the mission that killed Bin Laden, not only would the GOP say he deserves a 2nd. term SOLELY for that, they'd want airports & schools named after McCain, as well adding him on Mt. Rushmore.....

[Beacool]

67. Osama is already forgotten.

People are worried about either getting or keeping their jobs, paying bills, feeding their families and surviving in an ever tougher economy. Killing the world's #1 terrorist is great, but it won't be a major consideration next year in November.

:shrug:

[Logical]

68. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs.......repeat

[rapmanej]

73. Time to bring this back from 2004

[jzodda]

74. Its a direct result of the debt ceiling debacle + the lowering from Moody

Generally the public at large was not paying attention till then. Many probably haven't a clue what it all meant but they saw brinksmanship followed by a downgrade. Some are blaming Obama for not being tougher (like many on the left) and others who don't pay attention all that much blame the President when things go wrong overall. That's my guess.

The rethugs have not come out of this unscathed at least and there is time for Obama to make a comeback.

[woolldog]

79. Yup. The lack of leadership and lack of spine

in this President was just so clear during the debt ceiling debacle people couldn't help but notice.

[Union Scribe]

75. Everyone knows polls are meaningless unless Obama is doing well in them. nt

[GSLevel9]

82. lmfao... thats my new sig. THANKS!!! nt

[Freddie Stubbs]

78. His approval numbers have been low for long before Irene formed

[DemocratSinceBirth]

80. Nothing That A < 7.9% Unemploy Figure Won't Cure

.

[LatteLibertine]

83. The most wealthy and corporations

are sitting on all their assets hoping the economy stays down and that people vote him out of office.

They've a vision of a Scott Walker style United States; a crony plutocracy with no regulation and masses of poor serfs to do their bidding.

Just examine what some Republican Governors have been trying to do at a state level.