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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:33 PM
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IMO, one of President Obama's biggest mistakes has been him sucking up to Republicans since Day One
Hopefully, the time has finally come for him to realize that he needs to stop being Mr Nice Guy when it comes to dealing with the GOP. The nicer he is to them, the more they disrespect him for it. What in gods name will it take for him to figure out that those assholes on the other side of the aisle are NOT interested in working with him one iota? On the contrary, the only thing they are interested in doing is taking over the entire country for themselves and their ilk.

If Obama wants to re-establish himself as the man who can fix this country, then he should start using those brilliant speaking skills of his to drive home the message that Republicans are ALL irresponsible assholes who are trying to lead the country into total collapse. There should be no further kissy kissy warm and fuzzy shit from Obama towards any Republicans, and that includes Boehner, Reagan, ANY of them. Any future rhetoric by the President towards Republicans should be nasty not nice. He'll get a lot more respect the tougher he gets towards those flagrant fuckturd teabagging dipshits, the entire useless lot of them.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:38 PM
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1. Well,
that was except for the time that he crashed the GOP meeting and made Boehner cry.

Then there was the public smack down of Ryan.

Donald Trump doesn't count.

The fact is that attributing the outcomes of any negotiating with Congress to harsh words or theatrics doesn't take into account the reality that Congress votes.

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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:47 PM
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2. Respect from whom?
The Teabaggers will never, ever respect him - and he is already well aware of that;

The far Left will say 'too little, too late' or dismiss it as sucking up before the election.

Meh.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 10:50 PM
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3. The "far left" (i.e., former "mainstream Democratic party") will dismiss *what* as "sucking up"
..."before the election?"

Is Obama suddenly going to boldly challenge the GOP -- at last?

Hell, many would welcome it, in spite of how belatedly it came.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:22 PM
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6. I was just about to say too little too late. The US is fucked now. there isn't any fixing this.
It was over last December when Obama signed the tax cuts for the rich. That pretty much guaranteed a worse recession/depression. this is just more of the same philosophy. he is not going to stand up. He just had a perfect opportunity again.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:30 PM
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11. "It was over last December when Obama signed the tax cuts for the rich"
Yeah, extending Bush's obscene tax cuts for the rich sure worked out well for us, didn't it.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:24 PM
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7. He is the one we went to the streets for. He had the power to kill the tax cuts.
Nobody else. Obama. All he had to do was NOTHING. This time, agian all he had to do was NOTHING. Wall street would never have let the debt limit expire. never.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:27 PM
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10. Kissy Kissy
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 11:28 PM by bigwillq
:rofl:
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boxman15 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:46 PM
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14. With regards to the Bush tax cuts,
if he had let them expire, taxes would've gone up for EVERYBODY and unemployment benefits would not have been extended. I don't like that the rich got away with not paying more taxes yet again, but in that situation, there was no choice. The GOP was holding the 98% hostage for the sake of the top 2%.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 08:25 PM
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26. of course there was a choice.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:38 AM
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15. Oh, you think Wall Street would have stopped the discontinuation of UI Benefits?
I don't.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:20 PM
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5. If Obama starts calling out the Republicans now, people will think
it is nothing more than campaign rhetoric.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:25 PM
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8. because it is. nothing more than rhetoric. If he fires geithner and hires
howard Dean or Paul krugman, THAT would be a sign of good faith. not words.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:26 PM
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9. He tried! To a fault! You know the GOP leadership laughs at him at this point!
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:36 PM
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12. What makes you think: "If Obama wants to re-establish himself as the man who can fix this country,
What makes you think he wants to fix this country? He is a smart man and he knows what will happen if he dares to go against our corporate overlords. He is on a very short leash.
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:43 PM
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13. this is why we are fucked.
It doesn't matter who is "in charge", because they are only puppets, regardless. The repugs are just more transparent about who they work for and who has paid for them.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:20 AM
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17. I agree. We need a movement. nm
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:41 AM
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16. Obama does indeed have great speaking talent and so far he has completely wasted it
He really needs to stop playing pat-a-cake and start kicking some GOP ass immediately. It's getting very late in the game.

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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:53 AM
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18. Its too late for all that.
We're steps away from starting the 2012 election and now he's supposed to realize he can't play the bipartisan President game? I won't work, even if President Obama has a sudden personality change, it still won't stick because just about everybody will see it as fakery.

Besides that, I don't think Obama will ever change his personality. His desire to be Mr. Bipartisan runs too deep, just like his desire to poll everybody around him before making a decision won't change either.
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JNinWB Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:03 AM
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19. IMO

I'm tired of reading other peoples' "opinions".

Don't like Obama? Find some other candidate.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:12 AM
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20. IMO
you didn't realize that you signed up for a posting board where people are free to express their opinions. Nor do you realize that there are people who can like Obama and who can also express their dissatisfaction with some of his policies.

Don't like Obama? Find some other candidate


For your information, Obama is the President, so I don't need to "find some other candidate" right now, thank you, but thanks for your splendid words of wisdom. (snicker)

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archiemo Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:14 AM
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21. I agree!
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:14 AM
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22. I never dreamed Obama would be gullible as hell! But he is!
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MemeSmith Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 06:05 PM
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23. Not prosecuting war criminals. That's where the rot started.
It's bad Karma.

It also sends the message that the nation condones the crimes, so it's national bad Karma.

Some people are apparently above the law, and the President, ironically for a law professor, is accepting that state of affairs.

As principles stand, that's the only game in town. All of his other failings are shadows, next to that.

He supports torture, by allowing torturers to escape justice. In doing so, he sullies his office and the nation that he represents.

Not good. No points. Give the peace prize back.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 09:46 AM
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24. One of my biggest mistakes has been not having you on ignore from day one. But...
that is now rectified.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:02 PM
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25. haha, I see you're still smarting
from getting your sorry ass throttled all over the board last year, tsk tsk. That's what you get when you're a world class whiner, eh? Okay, now you can put me back on ignore. :smoke:
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