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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:50 PM
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The person I will be voting for in 2012, is the man with the HUGE heart ...
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:55 PM
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1. Emotions over efficiency?
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 11:58 PM by Mimosa
Yes, a big heart works even when people are SINKING. When many people are homeless waiting for a section 8 slot to open. Forget jobs. If a person is unemployed and over age 50 or 55 it is likely he or she will NEVER AGAIN get a steady job.

Keep the personality cult going. That's what counts, right? My older friends can't get homes or jobs. Should I be happy? Many are running scared and there is no hope.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:00 AM
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3. Try to remember who's actually responsible for that.
You sound like the RW revisionists who are blaming this President for the economy.

He never, ever said this would be easy or fast.

He said it could get worse before it gets better.

How's that for a rational thinker?
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:08 AM
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9. Fan club over progress?
I know people on section 8. WAITING. I know 50 year old guys who can't get jobs. Get back to me when you all can tell me there are policies to help the elderly, poor and unemployed. It doesn't count to say 'how much worse would it be if mCcain were President.' It might be worse for all we know. But to people in need this fan club stuff doesn't help.

http://www.youtube.com/v/_iyjRpP46E4?version=3

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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:17 AM
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12. Calling Obama supporters a 'fan club' is offensive.
My being 'positive' is much more productive than your negativity.
Have a great evening.

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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:24 AM
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13. I worked to elect President Obama starting in 2007 before you joined DU
I worked my fingers to the bone, busted my bank account. I did not expect miracles, no 'magic wands'.

Google my DU history and you will see. I care about working people who can't find jobs. How about you?

http://www.youtube.com/v/_iyjRpP46E4?version=3



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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:37 AM
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14. I believe that the people that care about working people are the ones fighting the republicans
and the ones trying to support the Democrats,
not the ones that constantly bashing Obama all over the internet.

And to answer your question: "How about you?", apparently you did not read comment #4 on this thread - I am unemployed.
To insinuate that I am not on the side of the folks that are unemployed is laughable.

Btw, I worked since 2004 to get Obama elected in various ways - before he announced he was running.
And I lurked around DU long before I created an account here, so that part of your comment is irrelevant.

I'm not going to participate in a pissing match with you.

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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:15 PM
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29. !
:applause:

Um...the applause isn't for your unemployment, I assure you. Good luck to you. Actually, to all of you out there, or in here. Sorry, my head is fuzzy today.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 06:18 PM
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38. What a very touching tale! If you "care" so much, why are you beating up on the POTUS all the time?
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 06:51 PM by ClarkUSA
FACTS YOU IGNORE: President Obama has created 1.8 million jobs since taking office, just had the 17th consecutive month of private sector job growth in July and has announced a major jobs initiative for returning veterans today.

ANOTHER FACT YOU IGNORED: Today, he also asked Congress to extend UI benefits
for those like your "old friends" which surely you must appreciate since you "care about working people who can't find jobs" so very very much.

You really seem to ignore the facts about what President Obama has really done on this issue. Why is that, Mimosa? Hmm?

Like St. Bernie and John Conyers, you never seem to mention Republicans' culpability in this equation nor do you attack them with a fraction of the vitriol with which you attack President Obama and malign his supporters.

Furthermore, your diatribes are anything but substantive, as is the case with your negative rhetoric throughout this thread.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:10 PM
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23. darn right.... that is a nice video!!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 08:01 PM
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43. This has always been the case
Under whatever President. Nothing has been done to expand the social safety net in years.

Thank Reagan and Bush and Newtie for that.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:41 AM
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19. Again, it's not the SPEED he's moving, it's the DIRECTION.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:20 PM
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24. Your line is always the same.....you never mention that Obama turned out to.....
Be gullible as he'll! He is not the fighter I voted for! We all knew congress would be tough on Obama! He'll, Obama knew it. But he acted like he would call them out when they needed it and not act like he loved them!
Get a clue!
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:18 PM
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40. On what basis are you making your claims? Because Hamsher told you so?
In what universe does "calling someone out" get any progress made toward implementing policy?

It sounds like you want to hear pretty Progressive speeches full of red meat.

Do you think the Tea Party will quiver in their boots when they hear the things that are music to your ears? They'll be so moved/impressed/intimidated that they'll suddenly vote a Progressive agenda?

How did that work out for Alan Grayson? He gave great callouts.

Where is he now, though?
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:01 AM
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4. Well...
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 12:04 AM by Tx4obama

I am over 50.
I am unemployed.
I am actually homeless, as in I do not have a home of my own.
I have no insurance.

But - I DO have Hope.

There is ALWAYS hope.

I REFUSE to blame President Obama for the mess that Bush left America in.


p.s.
You Can't Demoralize Me By Your Blame-Obama-For-Everything Narrative
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/07/you-cant-demoralize-me-by-your-blame.html

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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:20 PM
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30. Shoulda read this one first.
T4O, I never knew you were unemployed and homeless. I've always seen you as a responsible, educated person who pays close attention to facts and keeps things as positive as possible. I've never seen/heard/read a complaint of your situation.

That is more than hope. That's optimism. To me, hope is a prayer, a wish. You seem to have more than that. Glad you're on our side. People like you are dangerous. ;-)
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 06:14 PM
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37. Wow
You just killed every single DU "Why the world should hate Obama" meme with one extraordinarily powerful post.

I sincerely hope that your situation improves dramatically. And SOON. The fact that you remain so positive and so hopeful in spite of what must be very trying circumstances shows true character. You are a lion. And you're definitely an inspiration to me.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:02 AM
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5. Yes, it's all President Obama's fault. The economy was terrific when he came into office.
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 12:04 AM by ClarkUSA
<< Keep the personality cult going. That's what counts, right? >>

"Keep the" personal attacks "going. That's what counts, right?"

:sarcasm:
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:04 AM
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6. Who would be your man/woman in 2012 that could do what you say in your post?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:06 AM
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8. He is far from perfect. Nobody is. Let's see what he will do in the ...
next 12 months. Will he change for the better (if this economic crisis doesn't give them any other choice), or for worse?

The thing is, he isn't going anywhere else than where he is now so, better accept it, and see how he will "react" to the demands of the American Autumn Movement, for one:
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:12 AM
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11. If you want to BLAME someone for the lack of jobs, then Bush is your man.

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:42 PM
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32. Vitriol over veracity?
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 04:46 PM by ClarkUSA
President Obama is not to blame for this lousy economy. In fact, he's responsible for saving it from the Great Depression II. The nation just chalked up its 17th consecutive month of private sector job growth and the unemployment rate dropped. You're not "happy" but the 1.8 million people who have gotten jobs since President Obama has been inaugurated sure are. That's what counts.

The knee-jerk tendency to personally attack the OP with such a bilious red herring is revealing of where your emotions are with regards to efficiently and honestly acknowledging President Obama's achievements. What it says is not surprising.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:58 PM
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2. He may have disappointed me a little, but he is still my man.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:09 AM
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10. A song for you.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:41 AM
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20. Funny, but I stand by my statement. Obama is my man.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:05 AM
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7. Me too. He's working for us under insane circumstances and against insane criticism.
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 12:07 AM by ClarkUSA
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 11:55 AM
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22. Insane is an accurate description of the environment President Obama is working under.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:23 PM
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26. Clark, so the guy you see in office is the same guy you saw campaigning????? He is not....
The fighter I saw campaigning!

The easiest excuse in the world is "it is the GOPs fault"!!!

Fighters fight!

Obama is not the guy I campaigned for!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 05:15 PM
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35. If you blame it ALL on the Republicans and Joe Lieberman,
then you don't have to FIX what is wrong with the Democratic Party,
or even do an honest assessment.
Its the EASY Way Out.

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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 05:27 PM
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36. So true! n-t
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:45 AM
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15. nice video ... HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR. PRESIDENT!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 03:56 AM
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16. In spite of the tidal wave of nastiness thrown his way -
I believe Pres Obama is a good and decent man.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:15 AM
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17. thank you! first huge big wide smile I have had today.
Most everyone I know feels like this about Obama, still....

It's only here that I have to wade through the hate for him.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:36 AM
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18. He is doing the best he can with a House controlled by
intolerable neanderthals who don't give a rat's rear about the hard working people barely getting by in this stinking economy. And they are responsible for this economy due to their support of historically proven failed policies. They spout their fallacious lies repeatedly and the media lets them get away with it.

He has my support.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:58 AM
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21. K&R! (nt)
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:22 PM
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25. Being emotionally involved with a politician is silly - it's about POLICY.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:39 PM
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31. Yeah, that's why so many Democrats loved it when Bubba said, "I feel your pain."
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:28 PM
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41. They were silly too - if it was all about the man and not the policies.
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 07:29 PM by polichick
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:44 PM
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33. It's about principle.
If Obama is acting on his principles, he does not share those with Democrats. Maybe with the third way new democrats, but not with real ones.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:12 PM
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39. there's a decent chunk of people who support P.O. 110% even with all
the capitulation, tax cut continuations for the wealthy, and offering up entitlement programs for the cutting board, and even if he directly has a hand in cutting future payments for S.S., they'd still say he's got great compassion and vote for him, because it's about the guy, not the policies. Some people don't care what he says about policy.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:49 PM
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27. Happy birthday, Mr. President
I wish you something to celebrate.
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progdog Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:02 PM
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28. Thank you for this
:hug:
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 05:01 PM
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34. Thanks so much Tx!! I really enjoyed that!! You right!!
HE BE DA MAN!!!! LOL!! LOL!!!
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:48 PM
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42. Glamour vs Charisma, I have read some very interesting
pieces lately that have helped me understand what is going on here. The president had or perhaps still has a certain mystique which allows him to be a blank screen. People project that he believes what they believe when in fact he may not. When something comes up that goes against their projection or destroys their projected image they become enraged. Haven't you ever found out something about a movie star and said I can't believe they would do that as if you know them when in fact you have no idea who they are. The President represented many good things, the best of things. But to say that he pretended to be something that he wasn't may not be completely true. I see him as a man possibly more conservative than I thought he was but he did go into the Presidency with the idea that compromise was going to be one of the cornerstones of his Presidency. He was I believe very clear about that. Glamour is a kind of thing where not knowing the person allows you to believe whatever about the person makes you the happiest or most satisfied. I think he has a fair amount of charisma, but his differences made him not as knowable and made it easier for people to project.

I don't know what is going to happen with Social Security or Medicare. No one knows today. If people want to rent at their clothing (and raise the rents but refuse to paint Woody Allen couldn't resist) and gnash their teeth I think it may be premature. But that is just my opinion. I think the jury is still out. It probably wouldn't hurt to make some kind of concerted effort with our individual congressmen to let them know how we feel I am sure many here have done so as have I. I guess I feel that if there is going to be a change we are all going to be unhappy with wouldn't it be more constructive to use the power of these numbers to make some kind of effort to turn the issue our way?
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