Just got a call from DFA (Dean's Org) asking for Donations.

[FrenchieCat]

As I have donated in the recent past to push for healthcare reform.

She stated that Gov. Dean Supports President Barack Obama....
I told her that this is a good thing.....cause what I don't want is for
progressive to start getting all emotional and start helping the Republicans
defeat us as an unintended consequence. That we have to care more about
our entire agenda, then getting mad and frustrated simply because there
aren't 60 senator who will vote for the Public Option.
That I'd rather get something through to be improved on,
than nothing at all...cause if there is no bill,
there can't be any improvements on something that doesn't exist.

In the end I told her, I care more about 30 million people,
than I do about getting even 1/3 of what "I Want".

She said I don't have to worry about that, because Gov. Dean
supports what Pres. Obama is doing, and that at this point,
it is truly up to us.

Since I'm not 100% sure as to what she really meant,
and because I don't want to spend money to defeat a bill
that I think we need to pass,
I told the gal to send me a pledge card, and I would see what I can do
shortly after Christmas.

[asdjrocky]

1. OFA?

[FrenchieCat]

2. That's what she said.......

Perhaps she was saying DFA......and I heard her wrong.
She was a bit more emotional than I am used to dealing with.
But she certainly used Howard Dean's name like 20 times.....

She was on fire, although slightly incoherent!

[asdjrocky]

3. You made this up, didn't you?

I've been a DFA member for years, they have my number and they have never called me once.

They use email all the time though.

I don't believe you.

[FrenchieCat]

7. Nope. She just called.

She gave me her name, although I don't want to put that on the Internet.

Did you donate.....cause the first thing she said was that I was one of the best supporters!

And why do you think I would need to make up a lie about a phone call?

[asdjrocky]

18. For one, you don't even know the name of the organization.

Two, I've been a member and I've contributed many times. Hell, I worked for Dean in 03 and 04.

They do not call people on the phone and ask for money, they don't have the staff for it. They use emails.

[FrenchieCat]

23. This may have been a scam then......

I thought she initially said OFA....
but then she talked about Howard Dean so much.....
She was acting like he was running for office.

I'll keep my eye out to see what kind of mailing I get,
because that's what I'm supposed to receive....some kind of pledge card...
and she did know my address.

but I have donated before to both organizations, so color me confused,
but I don't think that OFA would have made mention of Howard Dean's name
multiple times, so I'm thinking it was DFA.

[havocmom]

9. Same here. Long time member, no phone calls EVER

Either caller was scamming or OP might be PUI

[FrenchieCat]

14. I don't need to make up stories about phone calls........

I have quite a bit to talk about, without doing such!

[asdjrocky]

21. Clearly a made up story.

[FrenchieCat]

24. Actually, it isn't.

If you think it is, that's fine....
but I received a phone call on my cell phone,
and I spoke to this woman like for 5 minutes.

[janx]

29. I doubt it.

I've been corresponding with Frenchie long enough to know that she doesn't do things like that. It could have been a scam, however.

[treestar]

26. LOL. But we should believe you.

[havocmom]

33. I don't care if you do or not. Just know in several years, no calls from DFA

And never heard of OFA.

[CreekDog]

56. OFA is Obama's "Organizing for America"

but i don't think it has really caught on among folks who worked on his campaign, because it seems pretty top down to me.

[havocmom]

61. Thanks for that

OFA sounds like sorta label rip off of Dr Dean's group

[asdjrocky]

54. I don't care if you believe me or not.

I have an idea, let's make a poll and ask who has ever gotten a call from DFA and see how many say yes.

[BlueMTexpat]

75. +1!

LOTS of emails though!

[cali]

37. agreed. the op reeks of bullshit.

I've never been called by DFA either.

[FrenchieCat]

41. Bullshit is when you doubt what someone is saying

by simply saying it.

[MissDeeds]

51. They've never called me either

And I've been a member for several years.

:shrug:

[havocmom]

5. I tell ANY phone solicitors to mail some lit for me to look at

and/or provide a web site address. Tis the season for lots of scams.

[FrenchieCat]

11. You know, I didn't even think of that.

But she did ask if we could do the transaction over the phone.

So now, come to think of it, I'm glad I didn't.

[havocmom]

53. No transactions over the phone unless you are the one doing the calling.

Safety safety safety. If YOU want to buy, donate, you can initiate the call and make sure you are talking to the real deal. If they call you, you have to take a stranger's word for it and that seems a fool's errand ;)

[janx]

46. Sage advice!

;-)

[NoPasaran]

4. Dean's organization is DFA

Democracy For America

[jonnyblitz]

6. Howard Dean runs Obama for America? who knew. nt

[FrenchieCat]

19. I didn't know there was an organization called Obama for America. Who Knew?

[AllentownJake]

22. Ummm that was what the campaign was called

When you sent Money to Senator Obama last year, it was to Obama for America.

[FrenchieCat]

25. They used an acronym, and I thought I heard OFA, but

as you know OFA and DFA are similar enough.
The fact that she talked about Gov. Howard Dean
at length gives me the confidence that it was DFA...
or a possible scam...although they had my name and address.

[AllentownJake]

28. Have you ever donated to Howard Dean

or signed up for a Dean email list?

The only other way they got your number is if you have given more than $200 to another progressive organization and they pulled your data from a public database.

[FrenchieCat]

31. Yes. I am signed up with DFA. I donated not that long ago......

cause I liked that Howard Dean was supportive of Pres. Obama on the issue of health care.

[AllentownJake]

32. That is why you got a phone call

and that is why they have your number.

[Jamastiene]

70. Then, what is the OFA you said you have donated to before in this post?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=72573&mesg_id=72624

[AllentownJake]

8. Democracy for America

Frenchie, I'd honestly contribute to OFA if I were you, because I have a feeling you might be disappointed with that donation sometime in the future.

Dr. Dean is independent of the President and you react badly when people say things about the President's policy you don't like.

Now, I'd give to DFA before I gave to OFA.

[flpoljunkie]

10. Heard on MSNBC that Dean's group raised over $100,000 in less than a day when he said he'd vote no.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Howard Dean doesn't have a vote.

[PassingFair]

44. But he has our ear.

And our trust.

And my money (for real).

[flpoljunkie]

55. You don't say!

[rug]

13. Rahm Emmanuel called me.

I told him to send me a pledge card.

[FrenchieCat]

16. I didn't say Howard Dean called me......

But ok.

[madfloridian]

15. This progressive IS getting "all emotional", Frenchie.

I intend to stay that way. I am a reasonable person until my party leaders send out bloggers and spokespersons to bash one of their one who is pointing out things we need to know.

I donated $100 to DFA last night because I know exactly what Dean is doing....he knows it's a bad bill and is trying to make it better.

Stop using the word "emotional" and "progressives" negatively.

[FrenchieCat]

17. I'll use the words that I want.....

that's something no one can take away from me. Sorry.

[janx]

20. Frenchie, this is what I think is going on:

Howard Dean has always supported President Obama. Obama was one of the original Dean Dozen. President Obama, from what I recall, envisioned a health care plan that included a public option. He campaigned for that, and he held many town hall meetings outlining how that would work.

I believed him then, and I believe him now.

The problem is (as Dean has pointed out) that there are several senators who are funded in large part by insurance and drug industries. Lieberman is one example, but he's not the only one. These senators are not supporting the president; they're putting their personal and career priorities over his.

K&R

[FrenchieCat]

27. That is what the caller made it sound like. She did not say anything

that would divide those two into different camps.

In addition, if anyone else gets a phone call, I would request that they please post here....
cause someone is obviously calling, and I doubt that they only called me.

[janx]

36. DFA typically contacts people via email.

This is strange. :shrug:

[FrenchieCat]

43. On my phone, the number was "Unknown".....

so that was kind of strange as well.

[janx]

49. Uh-oh.

SCAM !

[Bluebear]

76. and what a coincidence, to call someone so entrenched in politics, to scam!

Out of the blue!

[Name removed]

30. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[FrenchieCat]

39. I think she's a hardcore activist, that's all......

she talked about the fact that she had had a stroke not that long ago.
She also told me she remembers how Carter didn't get the support he needed from Congress.
Her voice sounded young, but her words sounded like she had been doing this for a long time,
and she sounded fearless.....determined, or whatever way one might want to intepret it.

I talked calmly my views to her, and she said she was glad that I was so knowledgeable.

She was actually quite effective......because she went from $10.00 a month, to me telling her
I didn't know about that, to a $10.00 donation, to her upping it to a $50.00 one time donation
by the time the conversation was over.

I told her that I admired Dr. Dean because he has always been reasoned, rational and knowledgable,
and that is why I had signed up to his website to begin with.

[PassingFair]

34. I have never accused a DUer of total bullshitting before....

But DFA has never called me for money, either.

I think you would know the NAME of the organization
that you supposedly REGULARLY donate to.

Now what IS the truth is that when the DCCC,
DSCC and now the DNC call me, I politely
(unless they argue with me) tell them that
I only donate individually to progressive
candidates and representatives or to DFA
and MoveOn.

My money is too precious to EVER risk it
falling into the hands of a DLC member,
either through party channels or an
organization like Emily's List.

[janx]

38. Frenchie said "recently," not "regularly."

She's not making this up. I think it was a scam.

[FrenchieCat]

48. thanks janx.

What this has taught me is to make sure I know what organization I'm even talking to.
But I did get this phone call....because I'm not sure what it would serve to make something up....
cause this doesn't "hurt" anyone, as far as I can see. She didn't say anything negative about
this President, nor did she say anything that would hurt my view of DFA. :shrug:

[janx]

52. One of the risks we take when we're active online

is that someone will get information (email address, phone number, etc.). I'm not in a position to donate to anyone now, but I still get all kinds of email, and I used to get a lot of phone calls before I disconnected my land line.

[FrenchieCat]

45. I have not "regularily" donated to them......

but I have donated.

I get calls from a lot of Democratic political organizations, however....
and most times I tell them that I will donate at the website, not over the phone.

The only reason that I heard her through was because I wanted to hear what it was
that she was advocating considering the recent controversy as to what Dr. Dean has said,
and not said.

[asdjrocky]

47. +1

[FrenchieCat]

50. DFA has called me before....Back in July.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8536587&mesg_id=8536654

[Cha]

60. I believe you.

[Cha]

59. Yes, Frenchie didn't say "regularly".

[Milo_Bloom]

35. Seems like a Fabrication

Been a member since day 1. Was actually the very first person to contribute to Howard Dean on the internet and my fiance spoke at one of his rallies in LA because of it.

Did receive an e-mail from them today which said the following:

We just got back the numbers from DFA's joint national polling with the Progressive Change Campaign Committee and the results are striking:

Voters Revolt!

Only 33% of voters approve of the Senate's current plan to pass a bill without a public option but with a mandate forcing Americans to buy insurance.

The good news is the poll shows Democrats the roadmap to victory: 59% of voters still support a healthcare reform bill with a public option.

Senators must be warned. They must know what's at stake.



DELIVER THE POLL RESULTS PERSONALLY TO THE LOCAL OFFICE OF YOUR SENATOR TODAY

The Senate is going to be intensely debating this bill through the weekend and votes could come at any time.

We must deliver our message to them as quickly as possible to make sure they don't miss the news.

If you go after work and your Senate office is already closed, deliver it anyway. Leave it in their inbox, post it on the wall, push it under the door -- whatever it takes (that's legal) to make sure they get the message.

America is counting on you. Thank you for everything you do.

-Charles

Charles Chamberlain, Political Director
Democracy for America

[Phx_Dem]

40. I got an e-mail from them, and I'm not giving them a dime as long as Dean is on

the kill the bill tour.

[NJmaverick]

42. !

:applause:

[Impedimentus]

57. Wall Street and the Big Banks called ...

Tim Geithner and he gave them $1/2 trillion, more or less. Now that's how you raise money for the cause.

[tbyg52]

74. Amen.

Anyone who thinks our elected representatives (for the most part) are working for *us* needs to wake up and smell the coffee, IMHO.

[jenmito]

58. I can't believe people here think you are making this up! Why in the world would you waste

your time doing such a thing? These posters are really going off the deep end. :eyes:

[grantcart]

62. god damn cliffordu has got his phone privledges at the half way house back again

Pretty good female impersonator isn't he.

[cliffordu]

63. I got your number off the wall of the rest room in the Bakersfield Greyhound station.

[grantcart]

64. and why the hell are you calling Frenchie and getting everyone upset?

[cliffordu]

65. I misdialed your wife.

[Cha]

67. And, everyone IS

so upset!

[cliffordu]

68. I need to pick up a couple bucks. Mom's getting parole right after Christmas and

she needs clothes she can 'work' in.

[grantcart]

69. mom still sitting and taking notes?

[cliffordu]

72. Nah, she has a video camera....hands them off to the transcriptionist

every tuesday.

[angee_is_mad]

66. Better you than me

the way I feel right and reading these Progressive posts, I prbably would have made the damn woman cry!!!

[Jamastiene]

71. So, I take it you are against progressives?

[Bluebear]

73. Ah, a Creative Writing project. Continuing education is a good thing.