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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:27 PM
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Copenhagen summit ends with feeble climate deal (non-binding)
Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 05:34 PM by IndianaGreen
Copenhagen summit ends with feeble climate deal

Agreement 'not sufficient to combat the threat of climate change' concedes US official


Live blog here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2009/dec/18/copenhagen-climate-change-summit-liveblog

Full coverage here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/copenhagen

On edit, George Monbiot has been blogging from Copenhagen:

Copenhagen negotiators bicker and filibuster while the biosphere burns

George Monbiot despairs at the chaotic, disastrous denouement of a chaotic and disastrous climate summit

George Monbiot in Copenhagen
guardian.co.uk, Friday 18 December 2009 22.24 GMT


First they put the planet in square brackets, now they have deleted it from the text. At the end it was no longer about saving the biosphere: it was just a matter of saving face. As the talks melted down, everything that might have made a new treaty worthwhile was scratched out. Any deal would do, as long as the negotiators could pretend they have achieved something. A clearer and less destructive treaty than the text that emerged would be a sheaf of blank paper, which every negotiating party solemnly sits down to sign.

This was the chaotic, disastrous denouement of a chaotic and disastrous summit. The event has been attended by historic levels of incompetence. Delegates arriving from the tropics spent 10 hours queueing in sub-zero temperatures without shelter, food or drink, let alone any explanation or announcement, before being turned away. Some people fainted from exposure; it's surprising that no one died. The process of negotiation was just as obtuse: there was no evidence here of the innovative methods of dispute resolution developed recently by mediators and coaches, just the same old pig-headed wrestling.

Watching this stupid summit via webcam (I wasn't allowed in either), it struck me that the treaty-making system has scarcely changed in 130 years. There's a wider range of faces, fewer handlebar moustaches, frock coats or pickelhaubes, but otherwise, when the world's governments try to decide how to carve up the atmosphere, they might have been attending the conference of Berlin in 1884. It's as if democratisation and the flowering of civil society, advocacy and self-determination had never happened. Governments, whether elected or not, without reference to their own citizens let alone those of other nations, assert their right to draw lines across the global commons and decide who gets what. This is a scramble for the atmosphere comparable in style and intent to the scramble for Africa.

At no point has the injustice at the heart of multilateralism been addressed or even acknowledged: the interests of states and the interests of the world's people are not the same. Often they are diametrically opposed. In this case, most rich and rapidly developing states have sought through these talks to seize as great a chunk of the atmosphere for themselves as they can – to grab bigger rights to pollute than their competitors. The process couldn't have been better designed to produce the wrong results.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/18/copenhagen-negotiators-bicker-filibuster-biosphere
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:41 PM
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1. more here:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:43 PM
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4. Very depressing!
The document was drafted by the UN secretariat running the Copenhagen summit and is dated 11pm on Tuesday night. It is marked "do not distribute" and "initial draft". It shows a gap of up to 4.2 gigatonnes of carbon emissions between the present pledges and the required 2020 level of 44Gt, which is required to stay below a 2C rise. No higher offers have since been made.

"Unless the remaining gap of around 1.9-4.2Gt is closed and Annexe 1 parties commit themselves to strong action before and after 2020, global emissions will remain on an unsustainable pathway that could lead to concentrations equal or above 550 parts per million, with the related temperature rise around 3C," it says. It does not specify a time when 3C would be reached but it is likely to be 2050.


Thanks for the link!

Looks like you have been following this disaster from the time it began.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:42 PM
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2. .........and Obama aint cured cancer yet so he aint shit!! /sarcasm
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:48 PM
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5. Not to mention he couldn't wave his magic wand & force other countries' leaders to agree with him.
Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 05:49 PM by ClarkUSA
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:43 PM
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:48 PM
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6. Compared with what reasonable expectations were- this is a decent result
The run up was anything but promising- so if anything, one should be counting their blessings.
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:59 PM
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7. Did I miss something?
When did this Conference become all about Obama? Were there other countries involved in this? Lay off that hate drug.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 06:05 PM
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8. If you want to post White House press releases, you are free to do so
OTOH, I prefer to keep myself informed. I have learned, as many others have, that we can't trust our own government no matter who is in charge.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 06:05 PM
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9. Funny, those who ranted the loudest about Boosh's totalitarian presidency, his unitary executive...
are screaming that Obama hasn't single-handedly solved all their problems...and those of the rest of the world.

:crazy: days on DU.
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