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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 10:13 PM Original message |
Al Gore’s Rolling Stone Article – How The Corporate Media Turns The Left Against Democrats |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks for posting. |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Bottom Line; We Dems have to be smarter ... |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. Let's keep this info out there |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. K/R |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. I gave your identical OP in GD a rec, but it's still at 0. I also gave this one, up to +13 now. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. That says a lot. Some people really like the "Obama failed" meme and push it as often and hard as |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
75. That's because they're... |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. I damn sure rec'd it. Because it's true |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. Fortunatly, Corporate media don't appear here. |
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The Eagle 718 (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
79. Well said nt |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. +1 |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-11 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. EXCELLENT |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
8. The media ain't our friend....... |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. ++1 |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
78. +2 n/t |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. Well it's like the day Weiner resigne, and the media shut off Pelosi's press conference because... |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
10. I blame Dem leaders & wealthy Dem citizens for failing to commit to creating |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. You mean like Current TV? Go to their website and send an email |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #21 |
62. what does a small tv channel not easily available do but underline how the |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
11. K&R Thanks! Very well-written article from Al Gore. n/t |
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Denzil_DC (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
12. K&R for abiding truth n/t |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
13. While the media does play a part in trying to pit the left versus Democrats... |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 07:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Why do the most prolific criticizers curl up in the fetal position when criticized? |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I don't curl up in the fetal position, I get louder. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
56. Deleted message |
MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. You can keep trying to cram those numbers down everyone's throats all day long. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. I haven't read the article yet, but I just want to express my appreciation to MessiahRp |
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xocet (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. FYI: Founder and sink is the usual idiom. n/t |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. seems to me, it could go either way |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Interesting, hfojvt. Thanks for that. I learned a new word meaning today! |
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xocet (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. I suppose that you could be right: I have always thought of it as a pleonastic idiom.... |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Leave it to a fisherman to use 'flounder' instead of 'founder'. Thanks, xocet. |
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xocet (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. No problem - just the other day someone on the internet taught me the word subnivean.... |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
17. kicked |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
18. In the article, Gore predicts that his criticism would be taken out of context to attack Obama. |
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Greybnk48 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
19. Excellent article!! K&R |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
20. K & R n/t |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
22. Kicked and recommended. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
23. Rec. The left and the dems united in 2012 please |
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wysimdnwyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. Wasn't that the point of the article? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. The headlines made it appear that the article was about Gore attacking Obama. |
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paulkienitz (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. I just wish it was ONLY the media that turned the left against Democrats |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
27. Very Good, Thanks |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
28. The degree of distortion is amply demonstrated by CorpoMedia's© |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
29. MSM also reports on conflicts within the GOP |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. They didn't address what the majority of this essay was about, a critique of the corporate media. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
31. If it was all just about "feelings", I might agree, |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I agree, bvar but this is referring specifically to the focus of their coverage of Gore's essay; |
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Kall (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
34. Not really |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
37. SOP: Separate the candidate from their base |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
39. Marking to read later.... |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
40. It works here on DU. nt |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. I bought it. I'll ba far more skeptical from now on out. |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
42. Lets give ourselves more credit |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Spoken like a good Republican. n/t |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
43. You mean corporate media did what you did with this OP? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #43 |
65. +1 -- |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Gore actually gives a peek behind the DC curtains. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
44. Well, you have to give the Democrats some credit for helping turn the left against them |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
46. great post.. this REALLY pisses me off |
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RhodaA (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
49. Great Post - Thank you |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
50. Good call. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
51. Great point. They do give Republicans a free pass over and over. |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
54. Peeps, I for one have been an O. critic. Disappointed like a |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
58. Evidently you missed PAGE 6, where Gore discusses Obama ... |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Gore Spends Most Of Time Discussing Facts Of Climate Change and Corporate Media |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. +1 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Gore also criticizes Obama -- which is what the original OP correctly stated ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. kr |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Obama is an individual, most of Gore's message targets our dysfunctional institutions, primarily |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Think we're going to have to have a wider discussion of Page 6 and recommend more read it !! |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I don't have anything against that so long as the other six pages are read as well. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Certainly everyone should read page 2 -- where Gore discusses the "climate crisis" ... |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
66. That actually says more about the "left" than the media. And he's right. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. The left doesn't control the corporate media and Gore's primary criticism is against the media. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Actually, what Gore is talking about is the reality of fascism taking over our government ... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Yes but as the original title and bulk of the Rolling Stone Essay alludes to |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 02:34 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. The root cause is candidates willing to sell themselves for corporate money .... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Which would be greatly reduced if the public square weren't dysfunctional. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
77. The Democratic party doesn't need the media to turn the left against it. The Democratic party |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. "Blame Democrats and Give Republicans a Free Pass." |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I can't speak for the entire left end of the spectrum, but the Democratic party left |
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