John McCain: "I stand with Dr. Dean".

[impik]

Yay. Happy, everyone?

[WeDidIt]

1. Link?

[NJmaverick]

9. what he said

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said on the Senate floor Thursday that he's in "complete agreement" with Dean.

"You know if you live long enough all things can happen," he said. "I now find myself in complete agreement with Dr. Howard Dean who says we should stop this bill in its tracks, we should go back to the beginning and have an overall bipartisan agreement. Dr. Dean, I am with you."

[fishnfla]

18. said it with a smarmy shit eating grin on his face too

lol

[SemiCharmedQuark]

19. That's not what Dean said at all. Way to be an asshole, McCain.

[mcablue]

22. In complete agreement regarding stopping the bill. Not regarding a public option

Or supporting the House bill. But you want people to think that McCain and Dean have the same thoughts regarding health care reform.

[Zodiak]

36. Smearing Dean is the idea

The tactics are classic Rove crap.

This kind of stuff engenders absolutely nothing but more animosity.

Some DUers spend practically all of their time here doing this.

[WeDidIt]

33. Link?

[SemiCharmedQuark]

34. It's just McCain being disingenuous to the extreme.

[WeDidIt]

39. But still no link.

:shrug:

[snagglepuss]

54. +1

[Fire1]

43. Now you know something is up if HE agrees with dems.

Kill it then bury it, never to be seen again!

[mcablue]

2. Yes. McCain is right in this particular case, if he wants the bill to be more progressive

Or does he want the bill to be more conservative? Please provide more details.

[NJmaverick]

10. McCain is right, but Pres Clinton, Pres Obama and Paul Krugman are all wrong

[mcablue]

17. Was it too hard to read the whole title of my post?

McCain is right IF HE WANTTS A MORE PROGRESSIVE BILL. Does he want a more progressive bill? Or a more conservative one?

[SemiCharmedQuark]

21. McCain wants to kill the bill entirely. Which is NOT what Dean has said.

[NJmaverick]

27. Different wants but both lead to the same result

[SemiCharmedQuark]

28. No. Dean wants to change this bill to be better. McCain wants no bill.

Dean is willing to work at it. McCain is not.

[NJmaverick]

30. What Dean wants and what CAN be done are two totally different things

[SemiCharmedQuark]

35. Reconcilliation CAN be done.

[rollingrock]

45. No We Can't?

What happened to 'Yes We Can?'

[Fire1]

44. You'll be amazed at the number of people who won't get that. n/t

[stray cat]

3. Unity! McCain, Dean, Lieberman and DU are finally together....

[mcablue]

8. Does McCain support the House bill? Or not n/t

[lapfog_1]

4. What, McCain now wants to pass a better bill via reconciliation?

That's awesome. I never would have guessed.

:sarcasm:

[Xipe Totec]

13. The only thing McCain wants to pass is gas n/t

[tridim]

5. Listen to what he says after that.

He doesn't stand with Dean at all. He's a liar, like all Republicans.

[still_one]

20. Perhaps the OP doesn't want to present the full context for some reason /nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. So do all the Senate republicans.

And the insurance companies.

[Forkboy]

7. And Sarah Palin likes Obama's Afghan policy.

Next?

[calico1]

11. .....

:thumbsup:

[mcablue]

12. Thanks. Plus Lindsay Graham and Lieberman helped Obama blocked the torture photos.

I like this guilt by association game.

[ima_sinnic]

14. lol!! be quiet, somebody might hear something they don't want to!

but there's actually little danger of that

[d_b]

23. well this was a fun thread while it lasted

[still_one]

15. This isn't about Dean or Obama, it is about a crappy bill that will hurt people

Maybe the Senate leadership and the administration should pull its head out of its ass and listen

The truth is however, they never wanted a public option

Even from the start they tried to exclude proponents of single payer from the initial talks

and then in August:

Anonymous White House Official Slams Liberals Over Public Option

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/anonymous-white-house-official-slams-liberals-over-public-option.php

Who are they working for?

Is it to pass anything?

1. No Single Payer

2. No public option

3. No expanded Medicare coverage

4. No drug re-importation

5. No cost controls

6. No renegotiation of drug prices

7. Capped annual coverage for care

8. Individual mandated coverage

9. Anti-trust exemption for insurance companies

10. A tax on middle class insurance plans

11. Taxes that start up in January, but benefits that don’t start until 2014

[ima_sinnic]

42. taxes starting in January??!! sheesh, I missed that part

all these freaking astroturfers trolling the board can bite my @$$.
may this bill die from a thousand cuts.

[Mz Pip]

16. Oh, bullshit he does.

He wants the bill dead but for completely different reasons. Dean wants HCR. McCain wants status quo.

[NJmaverick]

24. Different wants but both lead to the same result

[depakid]

47. Only in bizzaro world

Dean wisely prefers to cut Republicans and Republicrats out of the equation in order to enact effective public policy over the objections of the health insurance lobby.

[NRaleighLiberal]

25. No doubt a zillion campaign-ready soundbites are being generated for both sides to use.

[cherokeeprogressive]

26. And the warmongering rethugs shit their pants with glee over the Afghanistan escalation.

Not just one of them, ALL of them stand with Obama in Afghanistan.

Now, what's your point?

[SIMPLYB1980]

29. Talk about bipartisan!!!

:rofl:

[IndianaGreen]

31. Pat Buchanan opposed NAFTA as did Dennis Kucinich

NAFTA was bad for the American working class, and the crypto-Nazi Pat and the progressive Dennis were right.

[mscuedawg]

32. And this surprises anyone ....

HOW??? :shrug:

[BeyondGeography]

37. Dr. Dipshit on this one

[davidwparker]

38. I stand with Dean, too.

[Milo_Bloom]

40. Good. The bill needs to be killed.

[ima_sinnic]

41. McCain also joined with Maria Cantwell the other day to propose reinstating Glass-Steagall

I'm almost getting fond of the old coot.

:crazy:

[Clio the Leo]

46. lol, let the grand conspiracy theories commence!

[DCBob]

48. The Heritage Foundation is also with Dr. Dean..

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/16/morning-bell-howard-dean-is-right-this-is-not-health-care-reform/

Dean worshipers should be so proud.

[Forkboy]

49. Were you proud of Obama when Palin agreed with him on the war?

[DCBob]

50. HA! Palin is clueless....

and apparently so are you..

[Forkboy]

51. LOL...hypocrite.

Thanks for playing.

[Name removed]

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[Forkboy]

53. Oh, I think I do.

The Heritage Foundation agrees with Dean so you use that guilt by association to attack Dean. Palin agrees with Obama on Afghanistan, but that guilt by association pisses you off. Seems I got it down.

And "fuckboy"? Really? :rofl:

[snagglepuss]

56. Brilliant retort. nt

:toast:

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[DCBob]

57. Pissed off? Hardly.. Glad you enjoy your new nickname..

Hope it sticks.

[Forkboy]

58. Glad you enjoy yours as well.

Hypocrite certainly fits, plus it has a nice ring to it. :hi:

[Phx_Dem]

55. And Dean stands with you too, McCain. n/t