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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:10 PM
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Primary Election 2012: Conservative Fears Of Permanent Welfare State May Create Wild Ride
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- At this weekend's South Carolina GOP convention, Republican lawmakers warned that a second term for President Obama would kill America's independent spirit and guarantee a permanent big government welfare state.

If voters agree, look out. The Republican primary may turn out to be a wild ride, and a surprise candidate could emerge late in the game.

Sen. Jim DeMint, the Palmetto State’s conservative firebrand, has said for months said the upcoming presidential election “is our last chance to get it right.”

“2012 is when we have to lay it all on the line," DeMint told a few thousand delegates. "We have to go to the mat.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/08/primary-elections-2012_n_859037.html
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:14 PM
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1. Utter nonsense ...
The 'welfare state' has been semi-permanent since FDR ..... They have had 20 chances since then, and America survived to see the dawn of the computer age, and to watch many thousands of citizens become multi billionaires ....

I say .. RUN DeMint ..... I for one would relish the opportunity to knock your ass OUT in 2012 ....

That's if we make it past May 21st ....
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:19 PM
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2. I would really like to believe that
But the reality is that the money behind both parties is determined to undermine the safety nets in our country.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:27 PM
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3. If they follow Demints advice, Obama will be reelected easily.
I think there is truth that a surprise candidate can come out. 2012 has a chance to be 1964 or 1984 all over again.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:31 PM
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4. "We have to go to the mat"
Good way to really get the crazies crazier. What are the crazies going to do then if and when President Obama wins a second term. People like him needs to cool down the rhetoric before more people get hurt.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:29 AM
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8. I was just going to say: I hope they take his advice because
what he's really doing is pushing the crazies (re: pretty much all the Republican prospective candidates) over the edge. They may think that works, but it won't.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 10:40 PM
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5. The rich ALREADY have a welfare state!
De Mint and his fellow Republican Dickheads believe in Welfare for Wall Street. Whenever the rich need "incentives", the Republicans let the money flow to them like the dam is broke!

It's time for the rest of us to get our fair share!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:46 PM
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6. As globalism takes over the world in the next 30 years it will matter
to emerging economies what the world thinking is on things like collective barganing, universal health care, etc... The right wing wants to remake the world in their distopian image cause they know now is the time it is taking place.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:55 PM
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7. Mobilize now - The corporate money or the Dem activist ground game will
decide this country's future.

Bet on it,

YOU get to decide where you want to live.
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:58 AM
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9. Yes, the last chance to make this a theocracy goverment
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 07:51 AM
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10. Concentration of wealth and power creates the "welfare state".
More progressivism, better wages and opportunities for work will mean less "welfare".

Look at Mexico with the extreme concentration of wealth. The peasants can barely get by as they on food subsidies. With progressive reforms, minimum wage laws and a strong labor movement, you would see demand in the markets and more and more opportunities for business. Ideally, there would be so much opportunity for business that the only people depending on government assistance would be people unable to work.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 05:13 AM
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11. Most telling
I do believe that this is what they are going to do. They believe they lost because they were not "true to their principles", as opposed to the truth, that their principles wrecked the economy. Since they cannot admit error in principle, they must blame it on "impure" messengers.

Bachman could yet be their candidate. Regardless, they will find the "one" true messenger. Once they lose doing that, then the really interesting bit begins.
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