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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 12:08 AM
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Newsweek - "Commander in Chief" - Good Read!
It argues that the meme that President Obama will simply let terrorists run rampant is wrong, but most of us knew this was wrong already. This is a nice article that dismisses Right Wing talking points about President Obama being weak on either domestic policy or foreign policy by discussing the facts, rather than simply presenting competing talking points and generalities.

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/05/commander-in-chief.html


Obama decided to reveal how he would fight Al Qaeda in a speech at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington, D.C., on Aug. 1, 2007. Clarke and Rand Beers, a counterterrorism expert with three decades of experience in Democratic and Republican administrations, met with Obama to outline his political objectives. First, he had to get out in front of any terrorist strike that might occur during the campaign. Clarke, who runs a global-security consulting firm, was regularly tapping his network of spook and counterterror sources to measure the threat environment. He believed the odds of an attack were high and potentially catastrophic to Obama’s campaign. “We told him quite explicitly to get on the record putting the blame on the past administration,” Clarke tells NEWSWEEK. “We wanted him to show causality between what the Bush administration did and the continuing terrorism threat.” Second, Obama had to show he was willing to use force, prudently but confidently. Obama understood the need to project strength, and he embraced it. At the same time, he argued that a strategy that relied solely on kills and captures would produce Pyrrhic victories. His goal, he told the audience, was to “dry up the rising well of support for extremism.” He pledged billions in aid for poverty reduction and education to counter the radical madrassas.

But beneath its softer talk of values and economic empowerment, Obama’s speech was shot through with steel. Near the halfway point, the senator, his voice rising, accused the Bush administration of fecklessness in the fight against terrorists—and vowed, in a rare display of machismo, that “if we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and Musharraf won’t act, we will.” In early 2005 Bush had planned a daring “snatch and grab” operation in North Waziristan aimed at capturing Ayman al-Zawahiri, among others. But at the last minute Donald Rumsfeld aborted the raid, in part because Bush didn’t want to ruffle feathers in Islamabad.

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Now the political repercussions of that mission have the power to reshape Obama’s presidency. The most obvious effect of Abbottabad is that it vindicates the president’s approach to the war on terrorism, and removes from the Republican arsenal the argument that he is a weak, naive, bumbling humanitarian. It is difficult to imagine the 2012 contenders questioning Obama’s commander-in-chief chops, as Republicans have done to Democrats for decades, and were hoping to do again. Why? Because that particular line of inquiry now gives the president a priceless opportunity to remind voters that he accomplished in two years what George W. Bush was unable to accomplish in eight. As rebuttals go, it’s a good one.

Less obvious is the fact that Abbottabad might also vindicate Obama’s broader approach to presidential leadership, which has always emphasized calculating, technocratic, goal-oriented tenacity over “Mission Accomplished” theatrics. The problem with the Obama-Carter comparisons, which have been regurgitated by 2012 hopefuls such as Newt Gingrich and Tim Pawlenty in recent months, is that they overlook the real-world results of Obama’s supposedly knock-kneed management: universal health care, Wall Street reform, a depression-averting stimulus package, the end of the Iraq War, and now, bin Laden’s head. As much as Pawlenty & Co. might disagree with Obama’s policies, it’s hard to deny that the president has a knack for getting (most of) what he wants. Swing voters pay little attention to politics, so they’re unlikely to warm to the president’s cool approach by themselves. But they will appreciate, and remember, that he killed bin Laden. The more Obama reminds independents that Abbottabad was a direct result of his leadership style, and not a lucky break, the easier it will be for him to sell the rest of his record. “The way Obama made this decision was very similar to way he makes domestic decisions,” says historian Doris Kearns Goodwin. “Gathering the info, talking it out, then making the most rational call.”

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 12:38 AM
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1. The best commander in chief of my lifetime
I have disagreed with some domestic decisions, but as CinC he gets an A+ from me.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 01:13 PM
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4. I've read somewhere long ago that Presidents will often end up
doing more on foreign policy. They have more power in that arena. They end up frustrated with domestic, which is difficult. More for Democrats, who want to do something about domestic issues (Rs just want less government).
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 07:24 PM
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7. That's interesting -- makes sense. nt
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 09:20 PM
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10. I'm not sure they want "less government". I think they just more
of "their" government..More guns, more wars, more
fear, fewer regulations. etc.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:25 PM
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21. Exactly, looking "tough" by winning a war is their ideal of a President
They are like throwbacks to another century.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 06:41 AM
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2. Tough = willing to kill large numbers of innocent bystanders
Militarism marches on.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 06:55 AM
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3. Osama bin Laden = "innocent bystander".
:crazy:
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 05:49 PM
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6. don't be deliberately obtuse
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 11:28 PM
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13. It sounds as if...
that's precisely what YOU are doing. Unless you were referring to Rethugs, which was not at all clear.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 05:53 AM
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16. The article wasn't specifically about Obama's killing of OBL
It was about his behavior as CIC, etc., which has involved killing lots of innocent bystanders.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 01:14 PM
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5. that last quote makes me hope Obama will want to sit on the SCOTUS
Weighing both sides and making a rational decision. Maybe his Dem successor would appoint him.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 05:54 AM
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17. frightening thought given his poor record on civil liberties
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LibGranny Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:11 AM
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19. Why don't you go to a Rethug board and post your
ugliness?
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 04:27 PM
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20. I didn't know the Republicans were to the left of Obama
on civil rights, executive power, and militarism.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:26 PM
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22. I don't think your analysis is a commonly accepted one
by anyone in the sane community.

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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:04 PM
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8. Universal Health Care, Wall Street Reform, The End of the Iraq War ..
... did I miss something? Because last I looked, none of those things have actually happened ...
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:19 PM
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9. Exactly what I was thinking, Myrina. Did something happen that we don't know about?
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HankyDubs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 11:08 PM
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12. +1
Those things only happened in the Yes Men Fix the World.
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HankyDubs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 10:58 PM
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11. suck puppet
Edited on Sat May-07-11 11:01 PM by HankyDubs
newsweek? Give me a fucking break.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:21 AM
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14. I believe there was a video on one of the political websites
Showing Obama saying that and Clinton and McCain lambasting him for it.
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BernieSandersIsGod Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:31 AM
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15. This quote is why OBama deserves credit and Bush deserves nothing.
"In early 2005 Bush had planned a daring “snatch and grab” operation in North Waziristan aimed at capturing Ayman al-Zawahiri, among others. But at the last minute Donald Rumsfeld aborted the raid, in part because Bush didn’t want to ruffle feathers in Islamabad."
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:03 AM
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18. Marking for later read
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