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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:43 PM
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If Bush joins on Obama at Ground Zero, I will be happy. Obama is a leader, a uniter. . .
. . .not a divider like Bush.

Obama did what Bush couldn't do. He showed him how it was done. He did it without torture, without blowing the community to smithereens, he outclassed him.

If Obama welcoming Bush on this visit gives us just 4 hours of bi-partisanship then its worth it.

While we are partisans, most Americans do not like or appreciate partisanship.

If Obama brings Bush along the critics will praise him, if we find out Bush wanted to join him but Obama wouldn't let him he would be painted as petty.

Obama has nothing to lose in bringing Bush along and everything to gain.

Sometimes we let our hatred of Bush get in the way of what is best for the country.

Political pay back or political disses have no place during Obama's visit to ground zero.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:45 PM
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1. Thank you! Finally...a grown up!!!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:46 PM
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2. Yuck. I don't like this renewed focus on 9/11. Bush is toxic
having him there will cheapen and lessen whatever this event is supposed to be.

Not sure what Obama is doing there either, to be honest.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:52 PM
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9. I sort of agree. I'm a bit surprised you don't know why Obama is there.
Why would you be surprised by that? OBL was said to be the mastermind behind 9/11. If that is the case, if Osama is to blame for 9/11 and we've been hunting him for 10 or so years. With this guy dead, after Bush dropping the ball. It seems logical that he would go to New York--were almost 3000 people died because of a terrorist attack by OBL and give a bit of something back to the many families who lost loved ones.

It has nothing to do with Bush, it's about the people---and the city. This is a sense of closure for many of us and a sense of relief. I think it's understandable and I see nothing wrong with it.

I also think, that many people will realize, and do realize---by putting one and one that Obama within 2.5 years got OBL. While Bush on the other hand had 7.5 years and got nothing. So Bush being there or not is irrelevant. The praise given to Obama will be the main thing.

Lastly from what I've been hearing. There is no confirmation that Obama is meeting with Bush himself. I'm sure it's likely, but there's no confirmation he's meeting Bush. But he will be meeting with families on Thursday.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:05 PM
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15. I guess I am leery about what Obama will be saying there and why.
I know he too smart to have a 'mission accomplished' banner. But, I thought the tone of his speech the other night was just right. I hope it doesn't feel like a pep-rally or a victory lap.

I also hope that it isn't hyped too much. I recognize and respect the people of New York to feel whatever they feel and express it. I think Obama is smart enough to avoid the pratfalls, but we will see.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:20 PM
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20. Yes I see what you're saying.
But I don't think he's meeting with Bush. No one but a few news reporters have said this. Meaning there's no confirmation on the MSM that Obama is having anything to do with Bush. All they said is that he's going to New York to meet with the families of victims from 9/11. So that gives me a feeling it might be more private than photo-opish and "victory lap". You know. So I understand being leery, because I'm not feeling that either. But I don't think that's the case. If he was meeting with Bush it would be all over the MSM. I mean it would be on MSNBC, Tweety would be talking about. But no one is confirming this on the MSM and it's basically silent. But they do have news he is going to New York on Thursday---just not with Bush. So we'll have to wait and see. But I respect your reservations.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 03:25 PM
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18. Yep. Gotta distract everyone from the crap economy.
Oh, and to keep the neocons on board.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:20 PM
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21. False. n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:46 PM
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3. It would be like inviting the drunken truck driver to the funeral of kids in a school bus he hit.
Edited on Tue May-03-11 01:48 PM by leveymg
F-ck Bush. He's guilty of 3000 counts of Negligent Homicide - at least. He should be in prison for that crime.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:46 PM
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4. Agreed. However, it doesn't look like it will be that.
No one has confirmed that Obama is joining anyway aside from the families of the victims of 9/11.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:47 PM
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5. Obama would never deny Bush a spot
it's just not his character to be like that.

he will be gracious and modest

and Bush will be the Forever Asshole he is
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:54 PM
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10. Exactly. I just hope Clinton is there. n/t
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:50 PM
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6. Agreed.
Obama is the better man, and the better President. If Bush wants to go, I have no doubt Obama will oblige him.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:50 PM
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7. Yup. Obama is always the bigger man anyway. It's part of his DNA.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:52 PM
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8. Do you want Bush to bring his souvenir megaphone
Edited on Tue May-03-11 01:54 PM by Vanje
and stand drunkenly, on a pile of dust and human ashes, for a reenactment?
That would be cool.
I want him to stand there, in front of the cameras, and tell the American people , once again, about his "lucky day", and how he won the 'trifecta".
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 01:56 PM
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11. No but I do think it owuld be funny if Obama encouraged him to wear a flight suit. . .
. . .:kick:
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:03 PM
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14. Nah.
Sorry, No.

Bush relationship to 9/11 and subsequent useless wars, is still not funny.
Sorry to harsh your buzz.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:01 PM
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12. They will still criticize him.
"He kept bushie in the background, tried to hog the limelight." bush, being drunk, will trip on his own feet and make a fool of himself.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:33 PM
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17. A few might ask themselves, why didn't Bush get OBL.
Why isn't he the hero who brought justice to all who lost their lives and closure to those who still mourn them. Oh..because he was busy attacking Iraq and capturing Saddam who had no WMD and nothing to do with 9/11, tanking our economy in the process with the high cost of a needless war.

That is the definition of incompetence!
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:01 PM
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13. He better have Clinton up there too!!
Otherwise it's just pandering to the right.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 02:16 PM
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16. Excuse us, Republicans. The grown-ups are in charge
:thumbsup:
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:12 PM
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19. Agreed! And this gives us a comeback to the "Obama taking all
the credit" BS.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:56 PM
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22. An excuser.
Bush is a war criminal. Bush should be prosecuted, not courted.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:13 PM
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23. Ideal scenario: Obama offers, Bush declines.
Short of that, if Bush gets to join the President on Ground Zero, it should include Clinton, who began the hunt for Bin Laden.

Too bad if some are reminded that ignoring the Clinton Admin's intelligence could have been what allowed 9/11 to occur on Bush's watch.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:23 PM
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24. I'm sure Bush will decline. Would he want to be standing next to
or between Obama and Clinton??? Even shrub has his limits....LOL.
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:25 PM
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26. You were right. Bush declined the invitation. nt
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 06:54 PM
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25. Big K&R
Obama, once again, is the actual ADULT.
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