Who the hell did Gallup poll: Americans Divided Over Ryan vs. Obama Deficit Plans

[ProSense]

Americans Divided Over Ryan vs. Obama Deficit Plans









The Republican plan protects the rich and cuts too much from Medicare, Social Security and other social programs, but Americans love it?

A majority of Americans are worried that Democrats will use this as an "excuse to raise taxes" and "cut defense spending too much"?

WTF?

Wonder how these respondents would rate the People's Budget?

[FrenchieCat]

1. Easy....polling outfits call certain zip codes at certain times of the day.....

and then pretend like their results are a "reflection"
of all of America.....so as to influence public opinion.

It is what they are paid to do, and they do it well.

[movonne]

2. We will see how divided we are when they take the vote in the senate...

[Imajika]

4. No, the poll is likely accurate...

Blaming the polls isn't going to help.

The US is a pretty evenly divided country and people have mixed (and often contradictory) views on how to deal with the budget going forward. They often oppose tax hikes AND spending cuts in the same poll - but at the same time say we need to tackle the deficit. The truth is, most people on both the right and left have little idea how the government actually works. Yes, we here on DU understand what the competing plans are and what is at stake, but most people don't really have any idea - they form their opinions based on generalities and stereotypes of the party's.

The Republicans keep moving the goalposts to the right, and in doing so as a major party they are able to tug large numbers of people along with them.

[Wait Wut]

5. Not sure if Gallup has fixed this...

...but, Josh Marshall (TPM) covered the polling deficit last year. Most polling orgs. still use "land lines" only and not cell phones. The majority of land line users are seniors. Some polling orgs. have updated their system, but not all.

One big reason why I stopped paying attention to polls. Not worth the stress or frustration.

NOTE: I believe it was also covered by Kos.

[ProSense]

6. Evidently,

these real Americans didn't get the call:


‘Heckler’ Security Issue at Ryan Town Halls

In Wake Of Widespread Town Hall Backlash, Rep. Allen West Only Answers Pre-Screened Questions

VIDEO: Bedlam Erupts At Town Hall...As GOP Rep. Defends Ending Medicare, Tax Breaks For Rich

[RaleighNCDUer]

3. LOL - after YOU have used Gallup so many times to 'prove' that

Obama is strongest with 'liberal Democrats' - as opposed to his REAL base, DLC blue dogs.

[ProSense]

8. LOL

So you like this poll?

Polls vary. Some people like them when they show Obama's approval rating dropping or unemployment climbing.

Some polls are suspicious, and I'd say this qualifies: "cut defense spending too much."

What do you think?

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. No, I'm saying this poll is no more, and no less, trustworthy than

those you constantly praise.

Gallup has been a partisan outfit for 15 years. And NOT partisan toward progressives.

[ProSense]

10. No

you're attempting to discredit Obama's approval among liberals using this poll.

"Gallup has been a partisan outfit for 15 years. And NOT partisan toward progressives."

So if its partisan, how do you think the polls of his approval ratings are skewed?

What about other polling organizations that produce similar results?

[RaleighNCDUer]

11. Define 'liberals'. nt

[moondust]

7. Lotta dummies.

NBC reported that Ryan got a standing ovation at one of his town halls. :crazy:

[Dawson Leery]

12. Push poll anyone?

It seems that the right wing propagandists have jumped onto this poll.
Rightly timed propaganda.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/republicans-are-winning-budget-debate_558359.html

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/04/gallup-seniors.php

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/04/27/ryan-budget-plan-for-entitlement-reform-polling-best-with-seniors/

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/04/seniors-not-buying-dem-mediscare-ryan-budget

[Marsala]

13. People don't know the details yet

So this was effectively more of a "who do you like more, Republicans or Democrats?" poll.

[karynnj]

14. I wonder what the order of the questions actually was

Many of the polled "reasons" sound almost like they are attempting to push ideas that might not otherwise be there - especially the idea that Democrats have an agenda to "raise taxes". (rather than the more likely cause and effect - the deficit is too high to continue, it can't be completely dealt with by cutting spending without harming people too much.)

[ProSense]

16. Gallup has been pushing some

very leading questions related to this issue.

Democrats, Republicans Differ Widely on Taxing the Rich

PRINCETON, NJ -- President Obama's call Wednesday for higher taxes on the wealthiest Americans highlights a partisan and class gulf in Americans' views on taxing the rich. Substantial majorities of Democrats and of those with low incomes endorse the idea of redistributing wealth by heavy taxes on the rich. Two-thirds or more of Republicans and of those with higher incomes disagree.



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Who knew President Obama called for "redistributing wealth by heavy taxes on the rich"?

Also, when did ending the Bush tax cuts become redistributing wealth and heavy taxes on the rich?

[craigmatic]

15. I don't see how it says they love it. Very few people are paying attention and the poll desn't give

particular details of each plan so of course you'd get a poll ike this.

[ProSense]

17. Details

66 percent worried "cuts Medicare too much"

65 percent worried "cuts Medicare too much"

64 percent worried "take away needed protections for the poor and disadvantaged"

64 percent worried it "protects the rich at the expense of everyone else"


Overall: 43 percent Republican/Ryan plan preferred


For those numbers to make sense, some of those worried about the cuts to social programs would have to see these concerns as no big deal. Given the reaction at the GOP town halls, that's a stretch.