Pelosi, Boxer defend Obama's move on Libya

[ProSense]

Pelosi, Boxer defend Obama's move on Libya

Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer

With lawmakers of both major parties increasingly critical of President Obama over his move to involve the U.S. military in Libya, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Barbara Boxer stood behind the president Wednesday, saying his decision was necessary to prevent a humanitarian crisis.

The statements from Pelosi and Boxer, who strongly back Obama's support of the U.N.-supported no-fly zone in Libya, underscore a growing split among liberal Democrats from California - some of whom have said Obama should not have made the move without congressional approval.

Boxer, at a San Francisco news conference Wednesday, said Democrats were not holding Obama to a different standard for military involvement than they did for former President George W. Bush.

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"This isn't America versus Libya," Boxer said. "This is an extraordinary achievement by the president and our secretary of state to get the world to come together" in a humanitarian crisis.

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[tallahasseedem]

1. That sound you hear...

is them getting thrown under the DU bus.

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[ProSense]

3. Markey Statement on Libya

Markey Statement on Libya

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Representative Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.) issued the following statement on the situation in Libya.

“President Obama is right to work as part of a broad coalition in an effort to stop the violence against the Libyan people and enforce U.N. Resolution 1973.

“The current government of Libya has lost all legitimacy. Left unchecked, Gaddafi will commit unspeakable brutalities against his own people. We will need to continuously monitor Gaddafi’s responses to the pressure brought by the international coalition and adjust the strategy accordingly. The more nations involved in this multilateral effort, the more the people of Libya will know that the movement for democracy that is spreading throughout the Middle East has global support.

“We are watching a watershed moment not only in Libya but throughout the Middle East. History is on the side of these 21st century young, educated people who are calling for the end to this 20th century oil-fueled dictatorship. Seventy percent of Libya is young people, but they represent 100 percent of the future of the country. The message to Colonel Gaddafi is clear: the entire world community is united in protecting the Libyan people. Libyans must be able to chart their own future, free from violence and intimidation.”

[dennis4868]

5. The pace that congress works....

thousands would have been slaughtered in Libya if Obama waited on congress (which under the law he does not have to do to start military actions).

[politicasista]

6. Gotta be hard to be them these days

You voted against the IWR, you are Antiwar, but voted for it, you are Pro-war (despite being against the wars in Vietnam, Desert Storm, Afghanistan, Iraq), but if you support President Obama's decision on Libya, you are a sellout or being "bought off and paid for by corporations." :shrug:

The bus is too crowded that it can't hold anymore people. You are dang if you do, dang if you don't it seems.

[ProSense]

7. What?

"You voted against the IWR"

Pelosi and Boxer didn't vote for the IWR, but what does that have to do with this?

[politicasista]

8. Iraq and Libya

know that Pelosi and Boxer didn't vote for it, but other liberal Dem sens did and because of that, they still have to deal with that like it "IWR" is sharpied on their foreheads.

Just observing what me reads on DU towards liberal sens like Boxer, Kerry, Pelosi who get labeled as sellouts and bought off, or abandoning their true selves for supporting Obama and his decision on Libya.

Not much up on this whole thing, so it ok for people to get mad a me. :)

[ProSense]

9. IWR has nothing to do with Libya

The IWR was a vote in Congress. The Libya no-fly zone is a U.N. action.

"Just observing what me reads on DU towards liberal sens like Boxer, Kerry, Pelosi who get labeled as sellouts and bought off, or abandoning their true selves for supporting Obama and his decision on Libya."

What's the point: that people who voted for and against the IWR and support Libya?

Why do you feel the need to always call out DUers?

[politicasista]

10. Not calling out anyone, just posting how me sees it

Guess you could say that is the point that those that support the Obama on Libya are always right in the middle and IWR is always brought up (like in Kerry related threads pertaining to this subject).

But it's ok, am not making much sense anymore and will probably land on many ignore lists. :hide:


Thanks for letting pol chide in. Peace.

[ProSense]

11. Um

"Guess you could say that is the point that those that support the Obama on Libya are always right in the middle and IWR is always brought up (like in Kerry related threads pertaining to this subject)."

The thread has nothing to do with Kerry. You brought him up.

[politicasista]

12. Yep. I did

cause he is been a good ally of President Obama when it comes to Foreign Policy, but as I said, it's ok. Some from both sides are a little unhappy with some posts of late (i.e. about Obama supporters disrespecting or not appreciating the Senator for defending him, etc), but it is JMHO.

Sorry for ruining a nice thread. Peace. :patriot:

[killbotfactory]

13. It's hard to remember what to be outraged about...

When you depend on reactionary cynicism, instead of reason and analysis, when navigating the giant pile of bull crap that is US politics.

[politicasista]

14. Yep n/t

[Ramulux]

15. Pathetic

Barbara Boxer has been such a huge disappointment recently. She looks like a neo-con when you compare her to people like Bernie Sanders and Sherrod Brown, I literally dont understand how she gets painted as this uber-liberal.

[rasputin1952]

16. I'm no hawk, but I agree w/them...

This is UN sanctioned to establish a no-fly zone. Other nations in the coalition agree.

I realize that innocent civilians will be killed and mainmed, but if the Rebels do not win, the carnage will be great and that is something that I believe went into the equation.

We cannot expect our elected representatives to meet each of out individual standards, but I can not see Boxer, or anyone else else being compared to others, I could state that Boxer looks like an anarchist compared to McCain, that would possibly be appropriate. Boxer has served her state well, some will be bothered by decision, but it is not the sum of what she has done in representing CA.

[ProSense]

17. "Barbara Boxer has been such a huge disappointment recently. She looks like a neo-con

when you compare her to people like Bernie Sanders and Sherrod Brown"

SENATE RESOLUTION 85--STRONGLY CONDEMNING THE GROSS AND SYSTEMATIC VIOLATIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS IN LIBYA, INCLUDING VIOLENT ATTACKS ON PROTESTERS DEMANDING DEMOCRATIC REFORMS, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES -- (Senate - March 01, 2011)

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Mr. MENENDEZ (for himself, Mr. KIRK, Mr. LAUTENBERG, Mr. DURBIN, Mrs. GILLIBRAND, Mr. SANDERS, Mr. WHITEHOUSE, Mr. SCHUMER, Mr. CASEY, Mr. WYDEN, and Mr. CARDIN) submitted the following resolution; which was considered and agreed to:

S. Res. 85

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(7) urges the United Nations Security Council to take such further action as may be necessary to protect civilians in Libya from attack, including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory;

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Senate passed this unanimously.

[ProSense]

18. Sherrod Brown

U-S Senator Sherrod Brown: No Ground Troops In Libya.

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COLUMBUS, OH (wosu) - Ohio's senior U-S Senator is weighing in on the use of American military strikes in Libya. WOSU's Tom Borgerding reports.

Democrat Sherrod Brown, says U-S involvment in Libya must be limited and short term.

"I note all this with caution. I think that this really reiterates to me that we need to get out of Afghanistan starting in July as the President said. Whatever happens in Libya has to be short term. We should not commit ground troops."

As part of a coalition, the U-S used B-2 stealth bombers and more than 120 Tomahawk cruise missiles to destroy Libyan military installations and equipment. Senator Brown says Moammer Gadhafi has been "bad news" for a longtime but any effort at Gadhafi's removal must have broad support.

"I would only support any action if its agreed to by some in the Arab world and our allies in Europe, both."

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[JNelson6563]

19. Yeah, Boxer looks like a neo-con

I swear DU goes further through the looking glass every day, never to return to reality.