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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 11:41 PM Original message |
Is Obama a "stealth" progressive? (Could be.) |
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chowder66 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. Great post! |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. k&R eom |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. K&R. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
4. Deleted message |
chrysb52 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
5. There is certainly some truth to this |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 03:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Triple invisable chess.. he's waiting to make his move.... |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. I think he knows what he is doing |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
7. K & R n/t |
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solara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
8. K&R |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
9. Stealth Progressive?! |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 05:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Bingo! Besides, why do Progressives need to hide? n/t |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
10. Interesting post and discussion |
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Shiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 02:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I agree with both you and the OP. |
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vroomvroom (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
11. "Lean Harder"?? -- How about Lean at least a Little. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 02:05 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Based on that standard then, people must think Nixon is a Democrat. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 05:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Well, compared to recent Dems, Nixon was far more liberal, |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #12 |
28. I'll respond by saying look at Nixon's proposal for health carer reform |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. And it still failed to go anywhere. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Um, that's beside the point of this discussion |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. No it isn't. Ideology is worth less than shit if there is no accomplishment to back it up. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. That was Nixon in the 1970's.....He was hardly a progressive iderologue |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Wow, if I didn't say it, you'll just make it up and pretend I did! |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Believe it or not, I agree that not everything should be seen as party-based |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
62. It failed to go anywhere because Ted Kennedy killed it for being too conservative |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. It was also in the Pre-Reagan era |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Great point. |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. "a large chunk of the masses have become foot soldiers for the richest 2%." -Yep - it's SOOOO damned |
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Chris_Texas (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
13. No. He is a corporatist representing his employers. |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 03:08 AM Response to Original message |
15. Yup, and I look like Pamela Anderson. n/t |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 05:07 AM Response to Original message |
18. Why should Progressives need to hide? n/t |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 05:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Because the MSM is a powerful propaganda arm for the RW, and |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 05:16 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Perhaps they don't realize they are liberals... |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. I wish you would please stop posting this naivete. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Instead of blanket dismissals, why not actually address those issues? |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. Okay if you say so. Go ahead and find somebody else. |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
22. "presenting himself as ..... not threatening to the oligarchs" ? |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
55. Back in January 09, we sure thought the new guy on the job would |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
23. Like I'm a stealth skinny person. |
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vicarofrevelwood (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
24. President Wishey washey. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
25. Oh, please. Perhaps Hitler was a stealth Gandhi. nt |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
26. K&R! |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
27. It's easier to believe he is an undercover agent |
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tweeternik (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
30. Agreed! "Could be" .... |
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s-cubed (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
33. Your post is very thought provoking. I would add a bit to it. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. Your post very astute. nt |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. *IS* very astute. (I missed the editinbg window.) nt |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. How embarrassing! I made a typo in the correction reply--and I missed |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
34. The man is not Leading. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
38. Two points that your post made me think of - a couple of things some people want to change but cant |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Great post, although I don't agree with much of it |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Thanks. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Thanks for this. It is a great analysis. nt |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Ditto |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. Terrific post. |
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japple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. You came through loud and clear...and right on! |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Good. Sometimes, ya know, you're just not sure if you are getting your point through. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. I love it when |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Thank you. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
43. Stage 1: DENIAL. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
44. There's no upside to giving Republicans & corporatists what they want. NONE. |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
45. That was lovely to read |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Thanks. nt |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
49. It's political Judo: use the opponent's moves against him. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
50. Given the demographics in this country, this could be the last gasp |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
52. Yes. n/t |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
63. One can only hope but if wishes were fishes, we'd all cast our nets. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-11 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
65. Liberal Dems like whatever he's doing because a whopping 87% of them approve of his job performance. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. And a huuuge 47 percent approval overall this week |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Actually, Obama garnered 50% approval in yesterday's Gallup Tracking Poll |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 01:32 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I hope he does win by a landslide |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. President Obama's approval rating has gone up to 51% today. |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-11 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
66. You might be right...If so, it would appear that we must realize we will have to do everything on... |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
73. A progressive that loves war, the unPatriot Act, and Gitmo |
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HR_Pufnstuf (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 03:22 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. a neoprog |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
75. Appearing rational |
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