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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 09:44 AM
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Kristol Calls Out Beck Over 'Hysteria'
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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_02/027865.php

KRISTOL CALLS OUT BECK OVER 'HYSTERIA'.... There were some noticeable fissures among conservatives as the revolution in Egypt got underway, but those differences have intensified this week, with the right splintering into a growing number of factions. As of this morning, it's impossible to say what "the conservative line" is on Egypt.

What's easy to say is that the line isn't where Fox News' Glenn Beck is drawing it. The deranged media personality has spent the last several days cooking up truly bizarre conspiracy theories -- even by his standards -- involving caliphates, communists, and radical theocrats, all of which has culminated in Beck urging his minions to store food because the "new world order" may be coming to get them.

Yesterday, The Weekly Standard's editor William Kristol, a Fox News contributor, called Beck and his ilk out in print.

Now, people are more than entitled to their own opinions of how best to accomplish that democratic end. And it's a sign of health that a political and intellectual movement does not respond to a complicated set of developments with one voice.

But hysteria is not a sign of health. When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He's marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.

Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it's a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition.


Kristol tends to be a loyal party man, reluctant to publicly criticize his allies. Beck and other unhinged conservatives, in other words, must have really gone too far to draw this kind of rebuke.

What's also interesting is that National Review's Rich Lowry, who's also a Fox News contributor, piled on yesterday, praising Kristol for taking "a well-deserved shot at Glenn Beck's latest wild theorizing."

Time's Joe Klein, meanwhile, added that he considers these criticisms pretty important.

Kristol lies very close to the throbbing heart of the Fox News sensibility. And I've heard, from more than a couple of conservative sources, that prominent Republicans have approached Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes about the potential embarrassment that the paranoid-messianic rodeo clown may bring upon their brand. The speculation is that Beck is on thin ice. His ratings are dropping, too -- which, in the end, is a good part of what this is all about. But I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a mirror-Olbermann situation soon.


For the record, I find it extremely hard to believe Fox News would actually dump Beck. It wouldn't surprise me if Murdoch and Ailes were taking some heat over Beck's idiocy, and that GOP leaders consider Beck an embarrassment, but I've never seen a shred of evidence that Murdoch and Ailes have any professional or ethical standards at all.

Regardless, it appears Beck's shtick is starting to wear thin, with his audience and with his own conservative allies. Whether his job is safe or not, that's good news.

—Steve Benen
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 09:55 AM
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1. I don't think it will be like KO leaving.
KO wanted to get out of MSNBC.

Beck will go crying and against his will.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 10:01 AM
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2. When I saw the word health I thought he would talk about Beck's mental health,
Which I am in doubt of. The guy is off.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 03:42 PM
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12. They did call him deranged.
Mentally ill would have been kinder.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 10:01 AM
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3. I'll believe they've stopped this clown when I see it. n/t
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 10:06 AM
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4. FAUX & Blecch: too crazy for neocons
That takes no small effort! Very telling when a prominent neocon propagandist feels it necessary to disavow this loon, however. Guess Kristol is afraid the entire RW will get tarred with the same crazy brush.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 10:13 AM
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5. They will fire Beck to appear more reasonable for the election. They can't have
this kook saying crazy shit during an election when all republican candidates would be asked if they agreed with Beck.
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 10:39 AM
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7. Yes, he may not be in their best interest any longer and I doubt he will stop his nonsense.
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 10:36 AM
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6. I always wonder what someone like Beck has to say before his ilk turn against
 him. This might be it. And I'm not sure he will be with Fox
much longer if he doesn't have a viewing audience.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 12:18 PM
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8. The FOX minions gush in praise of Beck
If FOX ditches Beck, a lot of their viewers would leave with him. It's a beautiful thing.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 12:27 PM
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9. If Fox kicks him out, he might just get crazier
I have the feeling that Fox has been keeping a lid on him to some extent -- not the paranoid conspiracy theories so much, but the demagogic impulses. If that ends, I could see him doing his own little Hitler shtick, with messianic overtones, for the same of his true believers.

I'm not necessarily right about that -- but if I am, he might be less toxic kept around at Fox as an official crazy uncle than if he gets cut loose to indulge his fantasies to the full.

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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 01:36 AM
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17. Palin / Beck 2012
The Tea Party nominees for President and Vice President. Sarah would insist on being on being on top, of course.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 12:52 PM
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10. Beck is central to Fox "news", just as much as the stupid assholes on the morning show are. nt
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 02:59 PM
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11. Interesting. The GOP will implode in 2012. Run, Sarah, run!
I don't think the ignoramus will run, because she's too busy fleecing the rubes of their $$$$. But if she did, her supporters would immediately put a hit on anyone daring to disagree with her on anything. I would love it. Whatever; they have no chance in 2012.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 03:49 PM
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14. Don't wish for Palin to run.
If the crazies join forces they could win. She's never actually made a coherent statement so none of them can disagree with her.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 03:46 PM
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13. Bad news for them...
Great news for us! Let them splinter. So many types of "crazy" in the republican party.

I never let my eyes gaze upon or my ears listen to Beck. I'm afraid that if I do, I'll need an exorcism and I'm not even Catholic.
Is he a tea bagger?
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 12:37 AM
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15. "Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives....
Fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it's a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition."

Heh...yeah, right. Kristol is a water-carrying, corporate buffoon...fearfulness, short-sightedness & excuse-making for thuggery pretty much defines today's American conservative. In fact, these adjectives nail it!

At least Kristol is smart enough to know when one of their own has escaped the asylum and gone too far.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 01:26 AM
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16. They are 'eating their own'
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 02:35 AM
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18. The real news story here is that Bill Kristol was right about something.
This is, in its own small way, a more profound upheaval than the collapse of a decades-old dictatorship.

Are they sure that this is the Bill Kristol? It's not some impostor?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 11:17 AM
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24. He's half-right andf years late.
I suppose that's still nigh-miraculous.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 08:24 AM
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19. That's all nice and everything but
who is going to call out Kristol for being a neo-con?
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 08:34 AM
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20. Is Beck any crazier than Rush? As long as either continues to get ratings, nothing will happen.
Let the ratings drop on them or anybody else - and they are toast.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 09:39 AM
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21. Maybe they'll be together in one place. And it will be icky.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 10:36 AM
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22. Does anyone else see any irony in Kristol calling out Beck for "hysteria"?
Kristol is pretty much of a hysteria queen himself, imo.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 11:05 AM
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23. Glenn Beck & Art Bell should start their own Tea Party TV station!
That would be good entertainment.
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