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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 08:32 AM Original message |
The White House Strikes Back On The Affordable Care Act Ruling |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. "Cost Shifting" - thats a nice way to say I'm paying for the Free-Loaders |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. Sorry, but the Democrats deserve this. This HCR bill could, and should, be so much better. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Deserved what? A |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Nice try. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. "I want this bill to succeed, and I think this judge is a fuckin moron" |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Wrong again. I'm not happy about this at all. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. "And, arguing that a mandate by the federal government is unconstitutional is much easier |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Not the same. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. It's still a mandate and |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
61. Its not the same PPACA has a mandate that we have to buy something called insurance |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. I hear you, Dawg...and agree. |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. Dawgs you are absolutely right... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
43. You think outlawing private insurance or forcing people to become part of a single payer plan |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. I'm not for outlawing private insurance. |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. The reform is real enough to the people it helps. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Good enough should not be our benchmark. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 06:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
65. Testimonials are useless when most people are being gouged into financial oblivion |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. "they" .... are you not one of us? nt |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I stopped being a member of the Democratic party when the Democrats caved on tax cuts for the rich. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. And that's what the President needs... |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. What about what the American people need? |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Obama (and elected Dems) R supposed 2 B working 4 US, not vice versa |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. The American people need to quit expecting the President to do it alone. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. How about he start by trying to do what he promised. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. He NEVER had 60 votes for the public option in the Senate, NEVER. nt |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. How many times does this need to be said around here? |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. The public option didn't need 50, it needed 5... |
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rury (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. President Obama NEVER had the votes for the public option and the Conervadems |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Proof that he didn't have 50 votes? |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. You keep saying that, but never back it up |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I have backed it up. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Right here |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. A reconciliation bill isn’t subject to the cloture rule. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. According to Pelosi, the votes weren't there |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. The article I posted shows that they could have gotten them if Pelosi/Obama/Reid pushed it. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Your article was posted a day before Nancy's response |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Still not proof that they couldn't have gotten them. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. You have zero proof they didn't try |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Like pulling teeth... |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
10. Repeal is "judicial overreaching," but forced purchase of a product from a private company isn't? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. So the Republicans repealing it was good for the country: returning to the status quo? |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. They passed a shitty law. So yes, it gets repealed, and rightly so. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. It's not a "shitty law" |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. The aspect that got struck down, Mandates, was a policy that |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Except no one is being forced to buy anything at all. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. This will be the ONLY nation on Earth to mandate the purchase |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. it's the classic case of swallowing a camel and choking on a fly isn't it? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Deleted message |
Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Why should I continue to pay twice as much for the poor to have health care? |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. What's this, class war? |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. because other countries do not have a United States Senate nt |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Their political parties and parliaments aren't as chummy with corporations |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
62. Twice as much? |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Why do you think repeating "only nation on earth" over and over contributes to your argument? |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
42. What part of this insurance is going to be affordable?? nt |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 06:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
66. Affordable = a really shitty product that doesn't cover much, and that |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
49. Judicial overreaching applies to judges |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
18. and anything released on the WH website is public domain ... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
27. Headline should read "The White House Flails Impotently At The Affordable Care Act Ruling" |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Why? |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. What the Murdoch-ruled media doesn't tell us... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Yes, but what will the five conservative judicial activists on the Supreme Court say about it? |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
47. But will the conservative majority on the Supreme Court agree with the White House on this? |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
55. One thing I don't get |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 01:49 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. I guess it depends on whether or not you think giving your money to crooks.. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-11 03:31 AM Response to Original message |
64. Kick. (nt) |
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