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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:47 PM
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Democrat: Obama says presidency at risk if deal fails
A veteran House Democrat said Wednesday that President Barack Obama is trying to drum up support for his tax cut package by warning lawmakers that failing to pass the deal would be "the end of his presidency."

Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) said the White House is putting a full-court press on Democratic lawmakers, who last week cast a non-binding caucus vote to oppose the legislation that would temporarily extend the Bush Era tax cuts, including breaks to the wealthiest Americans.

"The White House is putting on tremendous pressure,” DeFazio said on CNN’s “Parker-Spitzer.” “The president is making phone calls saying this is the end of his presidency if he doesn't get this bad deal.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1210/46451.html
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blazerunner Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:50 PM
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1. Again?
How many times is this going to work?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:10 AM
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7. This is like the dozens of times the #2 Al Qaeda guy has been killed
It loses its importance after the first few times its said.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:41 AM
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19. And we turned the corner in Iraq, remember that one?
We turned the corner so many times I felt like I was at a skating rink.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:10 AM
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31. Obama denied even talking to him about this. Read the article.
Obama has been a disappointment for me, but this sounds to be an exaggeration.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:51 PM
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2. And your point is???
That's what I would say to him.

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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:55 PM
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3. Didn't he do this with
health care too?
This isn't about him, it's about what is good for the country.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:57 PM
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4. it's time for a new song Mr President
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:58 PM
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5. About 2 seconds after he came out with his plan I figured this out.
Yup without this deal we are over. It's not just the Presidency, it's the Democrats period. Then we have to suffer through Republican idiocy and come back to fix a wrecked country.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:06 AM
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6. Last week a "no" vote meant double dip recession.
Now his Presidency is in jeopardy.

We should pass this P.O.S. soon or else his feelings might be hurt.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:18 AM
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8. DeFazio + Politico =
:dunce:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:17 AM
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32. Peter DeFazio is my Rep and one of the best in the House
Not only did he just win reelection, when so many conservadems lost, he did so while facing endless money being pumped to his insane Tea Bagger opponent. So DeFazio+Politics= A Democrat in the House when so many got sent home.
Additionally, Peter was a very early and vocal supporter of candidate Obama during our Primary, months before the vote, when the vast majority of this district was not yet decided. Some took issue with his early endorsement, in fact. So DeFazio + Politics = a big helping hand for a fairly unknown Senator. Big helping hand.
In return for that support, Obama has publicly chided Peter more than once, often on the same day that he praises Grassely or some other Republican. The Democrats of the 4th in Oregon notice that. We trust DeFazio far more than we do Obama. We know Peter.
During the health care reform Town Hall season, DeFazio's office was shot at several times by others who are not fond of him, so you are not alone.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:22 AM
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9. DeFazio?
Didn't he say this just before the election in Nov. about something else too? It seems to be a favorite theme of his...
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:24 AM
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10. The end of his presidency?
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 12:24 AM by Beacool
And that's supposed to be a selling point?

:eyes:


:7
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:29 AM
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12. Let's not pass it and see if he is as good as his word.
O wait.....
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:27 AM
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11. lol and who's friggin fault would that be Mr O? its your behavior that's at issue here nt
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:33 AM
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13. What he should have said
is passing this deal will be the end of his presidency.
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Beststash Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:33 AM
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14. I think the Democratic Party is at risk if
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 12:33 AM by Beststash
this passes. Presidency? Sorry Barack - me thinks you have already blown it. It takes guts to "change" things.

Peace
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:01 AM
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29. by the same token, it takes guts to anger your own
party- If this "blows" it for him, it will "blow it" for any hope of a Democratic presidency in 2012- You can count on that.

Maybe we've blown ourselves. :shrug:



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WiffenPoof Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:41 AM
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15. Why Is It About Him?
I understand and I don't ant to be picky here....but that kind of comment seems to indicate that he is thinking about himself more than the country. Yes, I know he thinks about the country....it's just a bit strange and perhaps a glimpse into his thinking - priorities.

-PLA
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:23 AM
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16. And?
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:33 AM
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17. Oh, the injustice of it all...!
That to which he is divinely entitled could be cruelly taken from him.

Public. Servant.

Bummer.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:37 AM
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18. Maybe he should have thought about this before he locked House Democrats out of his negotiations
with Congressional Republicans.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:48 AM
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20. I was at party last night with a bunch of liberal
Friends, they all said Obama reminded them of the old republicans before they changed. No one felt like he was a democrat..and everyone was sad.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:48 AM
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21. Pity he didn't say that before the Senate voted. n/t
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:49 AM
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22. Pity he didn't say that before the Senate voted. n/t
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:20 AM
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23. So it's all about him and his job
:eyes: :argh:
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 05:59 AM
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24. Aw jeeze. Did ANYBODY here actually read the whole article?
Apparently not... so what's new. > >

The White House denied that any such remarks were made. "The President hasn’t said anything remotely like that and has never spoken with Mr. DeFazio about the issue, White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said.



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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:11 AM
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25. Must have realized that people weren't buying it this time.
:shrug:

Someone is lying.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:20 AM
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26. At this point
the discussion is becoming clownish.

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BenzoDia Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:05 AM
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30. In fact, DeFazio himself admitted that he hadn't spoken to the President.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:36 AM
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27. Something about 'the little boy who cried Wolf'???
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BenzoDia Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:59 AM
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28. I'm calling B.S. on this one
According to CNN, DeFazio didn't even speak to the President himself. He heard this from other lawmakers who shall not be named. In fact, he said he talked to one person who made this claim.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/15/dem-obama-says-not-passing-tax-deal-would-be-end-of-his-presidency/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_politicalticker+%28Blog%3A+Political+Ticker%29
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:25 AM
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33. The President has practiced crappy politics toward Democrats
since the day he won the election. He has carried himself as if he needs nothing from anyone, and also as if everyone seeks to serve Obama, not their districts or principles. The untold number of Democrats, from elected officials to volunteers to important cultural endorsers who worked to put Obama in office have for the most part gotten the cold shoulder since he took office, and there are chapped hides all over America. I personally do not like the way Obama has treated my elected Democrats, I take note, and I have seen much disrespect, and no sense of thanks, no Party feeling that we did this, on election day the 'we' became 'he' and it seems the man Barack forgot what was done for him, by whom, and especially why. He thinks we just love him, so we voted him in.
I voted for Obama in the end because of endorsements from DeFazio and Abercrombie. Not because of the speeches or the 'just like Clinton' policies.
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:54 PM
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34. So many, so wanting to jump on the bash Obama band wagon
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 01:22 PM by Sheepshank
they are willing to pass along and support anything as truths so long as it falls into their bashing agenda. Makes one wonder what the difference is between Rep or Dem 'rhetoric'...makes all of 'em sound like a bunch of birthers under those circumstances.

eta: At the very least (regardless of the clarification in the article), this is not something I can even imagine being spoken...it just feels like bull.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:19 PM
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35. Politico Propaganda. Unrec.
"Some people say..."

Politico is right-wing soft-soap.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:21 PM
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36. Cry me a river. n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:23 PM
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37. Hey, that's what happens when you sell out your base and your party. nt
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