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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:28 PM Original message |
Hmmm. Some of the same people who insist that it is their right/duty to loudly criticize President |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. ! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why should anyone do anything for a "movement" that isn't there. Un-Employment |
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young but wise (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. +1 |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. Ironically, they will have it both ways....... |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. That isn't the issue.. |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:48 PM Original message |
Urging you to keep his feet to the fire doesn't mean he's going to just sit there and not defend |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
10. Or he could have decided not to ignore his base |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. We still have both the House & the Senate. Why did extension of Un-Employment Benefits fail |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Maybe Obama should have finger wagged those who voted against it |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I don't know why everyone thinks he is supposed to do everything or tell us what to do. |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I don't need "leaders" to tell me what to do or think for that matter |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. The frakking party is at fault here too. Are you telling them too? He didn't do this all by himself. |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Yes, I do. Anything else? |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Exactly |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I'm still very angry about the vote this year. Extremely tired of passive "leadership". - and - |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. The Dems cave left and right, leave the president little negotating room and then blame HIM |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Failure to Extend those Un-Employment Benefits several weeks ago was UNACCEPTABLE. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. Noticed that too huh? nt |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. cuts both ways |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. Exactly right. The attitude often taken was summed up by historian Thomas Macaulay years ago: |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Wow - that's deep. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
14. the President is our employee. He has no damn right to criticize us. |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I see - you want the President to be a minion, not a leader. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. You honestly think everyone knows enough about the issues? Everyone is active enough? |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
63. A Presidency is a bit different setup then say, a cashier. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. Still beating that silly drum? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. They call him PRESIDENT Obama . . . |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Only in public while they're crowing about their latest victory over him (n/t) |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Yes. In private, it's probably more like "that damned n-----r". |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I don't think such epithets are flowing only from Republican lips . . . |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:22 AM Response to Reply #31 |
52. No they don't. They treat him like dogshit and he takes it out on his own supporters. |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. I'll show him respect when he earns it. |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. "when he earns it" "sorry ass" - good Lord |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Because I'm not a blind follower? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Who's blind here? Could it be those who demand something for nothing? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. What part of "We 'Democrats' are not voting for you" do you think he does not understand? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
25. K&R up to 0. n/t |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
26. Right...I should be happy about Obama's $1.5 million gift to Rush Limbaugh... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. self-delete - misplaced (n/t) |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
28. He's been pissing on our heads for 2 years, were MORE than used to it! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Maybe when people stop demanding something for nothing. "Do this, that, and |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. and "Don't you DARE cut your eye at us!" |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. And everyone is pretending that Bush's Crash is ALL Fixed Now! When we've only |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. He should have let the banksters go under |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. In order to do such a thing, he would have had to NEGATE all Contract Law in this country, because |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. Edumacate Yourself... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. P.S. I WISH he could have done that. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. The tone here lately is |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
62. A few here could join and aid a strong, committed grassroots organization |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. Sorry, you're totally projecting. People on this board are FREAKING OUT. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. The majority of USAmericans haven't "supported" this pResident |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Something for nothing |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Predicting a future that you cannot actually see, based on your OPINION about things that you know |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. I didn't vote for Obama the Appeaser... |
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mstinamotorcity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
72. No to look in the mirror |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
48. Deleted message. N/T |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
49. lol. but Obama does his crits with a bit of class at least. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
65. That's funny... |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
53. K&R |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
54. Who works for whom, here? It's not the electorate's job to please the President. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
55. based on a simple principle as compared to the President opaque hostage metaphor |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You left out a critical player here |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. if the metaphor follows--then Congressional Dems with trench coats should have been exposed |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. No - I'm saying that Congressional Dems have been caving in to the Republican minority for months |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. And the election made it clear--this was the last opportunity with Democratic majorities to make a |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I have no problem with people criticizing the President for how this has been handled |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. those 3 elements certainly narrow the field of criticism, but not everyone |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. Actually, at present |
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Empowerer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. They're fighting Obama - after ducking and wimpering before the Republicans for months. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. They aren't "fighting Obama" |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
57. Obama works for us; not the other way around. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
82. And you have a President who no longer cares about what you want. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
70. K&R |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
71. Starve the Poor, Tax Breaks for the Rich |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
73. I do not understand why Obama blames the left... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
79. Not at all furious about his right to criticize. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
80. False equivalency |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
81. Exactly. They just expected a Messiah-puppet |
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