Obama made it clear today: he only wants to be a one term President!

[activa8tr]

As far as I am concerned, he has lost the teacher vote, the doctor's, nurses and patients' vote (with his puny health care plan), the federal employee vote, (which is Virginia and MD)the retired vote, (with his "fiscal budget whatever commission to cut Medicare and SS)

He might as well have handed over the keys to the White House to the Republicans in 2012 today.

I love the guy as a person, I don't agree with much he is doing, even though I agreed with much he was saying 2 years ago.

WTF happened between those stirring speeches and his namby pamby "BI-PARTISAN" bowing and genuflecting to Boehner, McConnell, and the Blue Dogs.

We should be planning 2016 campaigns from this day forward.

By then, we will have bread lines, soup kitchens, and 20% unemployment. We will have no FBI, no CIA, no military not involved in Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, and somewhere else.

We might have had WW III by then under President Palin, President Romney, or President Christie, or Bush III, (Jeb).

Obama gave it all up today! No taxes increased for the obscenely rich, but the FBI agents, and the Secret Service who literally are asked to give their life up to a bullet for him.... no raises for them...

Obama, the ultimate puppet of corporate America. We were all hoodwinked by a great speech guy!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. We're doomed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmZRDUO1wGQ

[boppers]

60. Doom doom doom!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqcn_TPu4qQ

[sudopod]

84. Who's this "we" you're referring to? nt

[BrklynLiberal]

2. Sadly, there appears to be a huge disparity between Obama the candidate,and Obama the President.

[nckjm]

87. yes....

Houston, we have a problem.

[eleny]

3. I haven't heard about single thing the wealthy are being asked to sacrifice

It's disgusting.

[activa8tr]

17. You bet your bippy it's disgusting.

[DeSwiss]

4. K&R for speaking THE TRUTH. n/t

[jaxx]

5. He still has the votes of many, many people.

Calling him a puppet doesn't cut it.

[activa8tr]

12. Oh Don't get me wrong, I will vote for him in 2012, if he runs, but

I don't think it will make the difference of piss in the wind.

He basically has given over America to our corporations, given up millions of his voters for what purpose?

The man with the golden voice had no backbone and no vision that couldn't be tossed out to get some image of "go-along get-along" across.

[jaxx]

20. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

And a lot has been done. If he had no backbone he'd have never made it this far. This president is working under what abuse counselors would call a hostile workplace environment. The rightwing hates his guts and will do anything to stop his progress. President Obama is despised for his race to start with, and add the birthers and the tenthers and the rest of the bigoted idiots who slime out of one side of their mouths in the congress and then think about it. That anything has been done is a minor miracle. I can't change your mind, but I do think that you are wrong to brush off the facts.

[political_Dem]

66. What people miss is the strength and prowess it takes to endure all that hostility and still go on.

If anyone else was in Mr. Obama's shoes they'd have a nervous breakdown. It amuses me that people can suggest all of these ideas and complain about the job he's doing, but not one of the naysayers would take his place.

It's too tempting to order Mr. Obama around and treat him as a servant. :eyes:

[impik]

55. You said some of the most extreme things i've ever read here about Obama

(And that is quite an achievement in this crazy place), yet you will vote for him????

You're hilarious.

[nckjm]

88. We need a candidate in 2012

Obama had his chance. Get him outta there.

[BlueJac]

18. tool might work then!

[quakerboy]

52. How much of that is lack of alternative?

Fast forward and defy the laws of nature with me for a moment. 2012 GE, and somehow our choices for president are 2008 Candidate Obama and 2010 President Obama. Who gets your vote? Who wins?

[panader0]

6. You are reaching too far.

Obama has been obstructed outrageously. Will you show me where he said he wants to be a one term prez?
Will you vote for him when he wins the Democratic nomination? I will.

[rug]

32. Here.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/25/obama-two-terms/

[jenmito]

35. He said he'd "rather be a really good one-term president than a mediocre two-term president.” That

is NOT the same as him saying he wants to only be a one-term president. By the OP's logic, he'll be a really good president in his first term.

[rug]

36. True, it's not shaping up as a really good term.

[jenmito]

37. Then he'll run again using your logic. n/t

[rug]

38. Correct. Hope and Mediocrity 2012.

[jenmito]

39. So he did NOT make it clear today that he wants to only be a one-termer. n/t

[rug]

40. Yes. He wants one really good one or two mediocre ones. Ergo, he's running.

[jenmito]

41. So you didn't answer the poster's question who asked,

"Will you show me where he said he wants to be a one term prez?"

And his answer was just politics. Of COURSE he'll run in '12 if he did a really good job.

[VMI Dem]

7. Its chess.

:shrug:

[Autumn]

46. No, it's Candyland,

checkers at the most.

[muffin1]

75. Or Chutes and Ladders

So far, no Ladders.

[katandmoon]

8. K&R.

[elocs]

9. I don't know, but I'm starting to have a bad feeling about this.

I think Obama was pretty convinced that the economy would have recovered sufficiently by the time of the midterms that it would not be as bad as it was. In 2 years from now if things are not much better than now, or it has to be explained over and over why things are better but it isn't really obvious to the person on the street, bad things will happen if the Republicans get their act together.

And yes, Obama the President does seem to be different than Obama the candidate or Obama the campaigner.

[impik]

10. True. Let's hope that this really what will happen

Grayson 2012!!!

[Bluenorthwest]

19. "Let's hope that this really what will happen"?

Is our children learning?

[impik]

56. Funny.

[ZombieHorde]

86. I know I am not always sober when I post. nt

[Life Long Dem]

11. Namby Pamby Land You Jack Wagon!

:wow:

[activa8tr]

13. What the F do you mean? I called it as I see it... you just have an expression I don't ..

honestly understand.

Are you a federal worker or someone who earns over $200,000 a year pitching fake mortgage bonds on Wall Street?


I have no idea what Obama has done that he promised to do.

Look at his campaign speeches.

Look at what he did today!

See anything near close to the same?

[Life Long Dem]

15. You used the expression yourself.

And this reminded me of the Gieco commercial. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhlWddAXSRA

[activa8tr]

16. LOL "Maybe we can find some self-confidence for you: you...."

hey, I'm old, we old guys know about those expressions.... "namby pamby" etc.

Guess you're just younger than me, and don't disagree.

[stray cat]

14. so you want to help him put the GOP in power

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[Tesha]

27. Obama's doing fine at that all by himself. (NT)

[Pisces]

22. I read stupid threads like these every week. Is it a concerted effort or is there a school for

idiot prognosticators????

[Whisp]

23. concerted.

pretty soon they'll all be here just yapping at each other because the rest of us that think Obama isn't actually the anti-christ corporatist homophobe sexist tire of this rw shit.

[dionysus]

29. +1

[Scurrilous]

42. Yep.

:thumbsup:

[SidDithers]

63. +1...nt

Sid

[political_Dem]

69. [phone].

With all the time wasted on this BS, we could have been working on strategies to put Dems in Congress who could stop the threat of the Teabaggers and their GOP handlers messing up the progress we've made.

I swear some people continue to flirt with disaster.

[impik]

59. Every week? Every 5 minutes? Last week it was the TSA nonsense

Now this. Tomorrow is a new day.

[AndrewP]

70. +1

[beforeyoureyes]

24. God, PRIMARY HIM! We still have time!

I know it may be hard...and it may not work...but FIGHTING is about FIGHTING and putting up your best against long odds.

Geesh!

[jaxx]

26. Are you volunteering for the job?

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[AtomicKitten]

34. +1

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=civics+for+dummies&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=1501001741&ref=pd_sl_2p5uxnfzio_e

:hi:

[activa8tr]

44. Meaningless posts like yours don't even give me the book title, author, or

have anything other than arrogant insults to throw at a fellow Obama supporter.

I will just be satisfied reporting your post for harassment and insult and hope you go back into your cave of batty ignorance at what millions of people experienced today from the man they voted for.

You really are a disgrace to posters here, insulting me, for standing up for over a million federal workers.

[zulchzulu]

47. Oh please... spare me...

Harassment and insult?

Ferfuckssakes... are you kidding?

The preponderance of people dissing Obama for not doing enough is precisely due to civics ignorance.

As for federal workers getting a wage freeze, it sure beats getting their jobs eliminated. It's a way of keeping federal workers to have a job rather than having the Republicans just cut the jobs out altogether.

This again gets back to civics ignorance.

Obama has to make cuts and doesn't have the votes to overturn massive job elimination that would occur if Republicans had their way. With the wage freeze, they will not eliminate the jobs.

If this is difficult to understand, then that's too goddamn bad.

[activa8tr]

48. Let's hope you don't need the FBI to find a child or your loved one.

because, then, I will post your posts here, and make sure all FBI people know that you endorsed their pay cut.
Or you don't have a Cancer, and the CDC is working on your cure.

They can just say "screw you", for your posts here.

Your arrogance is so obvious. Obviously you favor tax cuts for those as rich as you, and screw the worker class.

[quakerboy]

53. Are you really that Naive?

"With the wage freeze, they will not eliminate the jobs." Cough*bullshit*.


Since when do pubs ever play fair? If they have the firepower to eliminate union wage earners, they will pull that trigger. Regardless of whether Democrats spank them first.

[muffin1]

77. Roll back the fucking tax cuts for the rich.

Stop wasting fucking money in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why is it ALWAYS the poor and the middle class that have to sacrifice first?

But no...then the repukes will hate him. Oh, wait...THEY ALREADY DO AND ALWAYS WILL.

[treestar]

30. Oh for crying out loud!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I guess you work for the government, then? Disappointed? Ask the unemployed!

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[N_E_1 for Tennis]

33. Keep heart

One day a mentor asked his pupil, "Why do they laugh and mock?'

His pupil stared deeply into his own hands searching for an answer.

Looking up at his teacher, he replied, "They laugh before they cry"

His teacher, smiling, dismissed him for the day.

[mikekohr]

43. As An Elected Local Official, I Voted To Freeze Our Pay For 4 years from 2008-2012

The vote was unanimous. The governmental body in question is for offices on a Township board and all but one position is part-time. The full-time position was cut in pay $4,000.00 per year.

Given what was happening in the private sector it was the right thing to do, and fiscally responsible action given our declining tax revenues

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[Arkana]

51. Thanks, Chicken Little.

[Beacool]

54. Please, with that ego?

He's been running for reelection from the moment he stepped into the WH.

:7

[impik]

57. So, primary him. Who is stopping you?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

61. As opposed to the ego-less Bill Clinton.

:rofl:

[Beacool]

68. They all have sizable egos.

But some have them supersized.

;-)

[Starbucks Anarchist]

74. Yes, you'd have to have a supersized ego to get a BJ in the Oval Office.

[Beacool]

79. Having sex entails having an overblown ego?

:eyes:

[jenmito]

81. In the Oval Office? With an intern? And think you won't get caught?

Of COURSE that entails having an overblown ego!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

83. No, having it in the Oval Office does.

Maybe you could brush up on reading comprehension instead of worshipping everything Clinton.

[impik]

58. Obviously, you didn't listen to him during the campaign

You heard just what you wanted to hear. If you'd listen, if you'd read his books - really read them -you wouldn't be surprised by anything that he's doing over the past two years. He's governing exactly the way he said he will. You voted for the man you wanted him to be, not the man he really is. You can fault yourself only.

And no, you don't really "like him". Not with that language you use against him. But, you and your friends will get what you want.

[Skittles]

62. absolutely

I did listen and I did read which is why I am not surprised

[harun]

67. Why this argument is false.

We vote for someone we hope has an ideology. An ideology they will use in their day to day decisions. We don't vote for someone's checklist of campaign promises. They can't promise what hasn't happened yet. When the tough decisions are in front of Obama we want him to do what is right, not to see if his campaign checklist contains the item in question or he can simply do what the Corporations or Republicans want.

Obama's supporters did not want an insurance mandate, an escalation in Afghanistan (and no, in the campaign saying we will concentrate on Afghanistan did not mean an escalation of troops and violence, it could also have meant increased diplomacy and rebuilding efforts, although that isn't what we got), we did not vote for keeping Gitmo open, we did not vote for the U.S. to support the most corrupt elections in Egypt's history, we did not vote to bail out Wall St. and to kick people out of their houses and foreclose on them.

[BlueIris]

64. I suspect he never wanted to be president to begin with.

And I've seen no evidence he wants a second term. But since Obama is not in charge here, and he will do what his handlers want, he'll run again if they tell him to. Will the Democratic Party stand up to them? It didn't last time. Could the Democratic candidate pull out victory over the Republican at this point? Not without stealing the election, IMO. Would MSM let the Democrats get away with that? Possibly.

So we'll see.

[akbacchus_BC]

65. Smart guy, I should say. He won by a majority, the American People

voted for Hope and Change and they got screwed. Do not get me wrong, President Obama did the whitewash and people were fooled but as for policy, he still to deliver. His speeches were great, now I do not want to hear them anymore.

Rendition is going on, Gitmo still there, the US escalating its occupation in Afghanistan, bombing Pakistan and Yemen for no reason and Iraq remains a quagmire.

Thank you Mr. President for all your false promises. Hope and Change, where is that?

Oh, this post will be deleted!

[catgirl]

71. Un-rec

"20% unemployment and bread lines". What a BS message you're trying to push. This kind of crap
belongs in freeperville, not here.

[WI_DEM]

72. I've never seen such silly hyperbole

[Teaser]

73. post better bullshit please

this stuff isn't entertaining me. and that's your job.

[NatBurner]

82. lol

[muffin1]

76. And the GLBTQI vote.

I don't even love the guy as a person anymore.

[area51]

78. We already have bread lines, soup kitchens, and

30.5% unemployment. Welcome to the 2nd Great Depression.

[jenmito]

80. This morning on MSNBC, they pointed out that the Debt Commission Report called for

THREE years Fed. employee pay freeze, as well as a HIRING freeze, and possible additional pay CUTS. So, Obama actually pre-empted this report by giving Fed. workers a BETTER deal than the report will call for.

[mstinamotorcity]

85. All I know is every time

I hear the President has not lived up to his SUPER-HERO status, I can't believe what I am hearing.If the President has lost your support because of one issue or another, then I ask where was your support?? Oh you cast a ballot and everything was supposed to be rub the magic bottle and poof here is your country devoid of corruption in high places.