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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:43 PM
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Murkowski: "I would not vote against a bill that had the (DADT) repeal in it."
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 04:48 PM by jenmito
Matt Felling, KTVA TV anchor just reported on CNN that she said that today! He also said that he saw a "different Lisa Murkowski sitting across from me today," including that she said she looks forward to working with her "good friend" Tom Harkin on a child nutrition bill. This was in response to Felling asking her about her labeling herself as the "middle-of-the-road candidate." She ALSO said, "We don't need Jim DeMint poking around in our politics." :thumbsup:
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:45 PM
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1. I hate when politicians describe their position this way...
Just tell us you're going to support a bill that would repeal DADT. Is it really that hard?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:50 PM
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2. She's a conservative Repub. I'm GLAD she said what she said.
Her wording aside, the bottom line is she'd vote for the repeal.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:54 PM
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4. Yep, if doing the right thing means mumble-mouthing it, so be it.
It's hard to expect any more now a days from a Republican.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:56 PM
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5. Agreed. n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:04 PM
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12. absolutely agree - if she feels this gives her cover, so be it
I also suspect that this election really has freed her - more than ANY Republican. It seems that they are all intimidated by these tea party bullies - led by DeMint and Palin.

Now, what could they do to her? Primary her? They already did. I think she feels means it now that she is there for Alaska - which cared enough to give her a write in victory. Now, she did refer to Senator Stevens - she is a Republican, but I hope that see will allow herself to vote with the Democrats on issues where she agrees - something a few aren't doing.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 07:21 PM
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68. Senator Stevens wasn't such a bad guy
when his record is looked at in its totality. He certainly was no teabagger -- and neither is Lisa. I think she knows she owes her victory to Democrats and moderates, so she may feel more free to tack left (I hope). She did have a reputation as a moderate when she was in Alaska's state legislature.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:51 PM
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21. I doubt that. She is a republican and will vote like a republican.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:39 PM
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27. So you think she was lying on the record? n/t
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:42 PM
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29. Yes, they all do.
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gort Donating Member (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:16 PM
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52. My bet is that she won't vote for cloture to break the inevitable filibuster
That's her cover.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:20 PM
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53. My bet is that you will lose your bet. n/t
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #52
66. Yes, she is a republican and will join in stopping all legislation originated by Democrats. nt
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:07 AM
Response to Reply #21
48. If She Was A Republican She Would Have Supported The Republican Candidate For Senate In Her State
Instead she opposed and beat him.

I am so glad she kicked Sarah Palin's hand picked candidate's ass.


Yey Lisa...
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:00 PM
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55. I agree with you up to a point. . .
I was so pleased to see Sarah get her ass kicked, but that does NOT mean that I'm a fan of Murkowski. I still find her loathsome, but less so than Sister Sarah!
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:54 PM
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57. Republicans have this tendency to be really, really vindictive
I can't help but wonder if she's doing this to poke her party in the eye for deserting her after Miller won the primary. It wouldn't surprise me if we see more of this sort of thing from her.
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:06 PM
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59. Wouldn't that be fun to watch?
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:22 PM
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74. She's the 4th most moderate republican in the senate now
By senate standards she's not as 'conservative' as the rest of the nutballs like Demint and Kyl who would rather cause long term damage to the United States for short term political victories against Obama.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:34 PM
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75. Even better.
I heard that from someone on MSNBC-I forget who. But compared to the NEW Senators, as well as those going teabagger to appease them, I'm sure you're right.
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Can we get a Philosophy Major to translate?
Isn't that some sort of Logic Sentence?

:rofl:
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:56 PM
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7. She would not be unopposed to not voting against a bill that didn't undo a reversal of DADT

...or vice versa.

K?

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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:58 PM
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8. I can't find my marble
:crazy:
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:59 PM
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10. You accidentally the whole thing?

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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #7
36. LOL...
you sure you aren't a politician? :)
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:31 PM
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43. That pic hurts me just to look at it n/t
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:56 PM
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6. I suspect she's talking about the defense bill, not a stand alone DADT bill
She said she wouldn't vote against it because I think she blocked it prior to the election. Now it sounds like she would vote for it.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:05 PM
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13. My interpretation too.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #6
15. Exactly. She's not a Dem, but we might be able to find common cause in certain
areas, from time to time.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:40 PM
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28. Yes, she obviously was talking about that. n/t
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:00 PM
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11. Agreed, but I give her props for exerting independence
Sarah Palin's attacks against her have liberated her to give a finger to assholes like DeMint and Paul
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:25 PM
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17. Lisa is the biggest entitlement queen in Alaska and someone
dared to take her tiara away. she will make the republicans pay for this because they threatened her committee seats and didn't support her. She will actually stick pins in their eyes because at heart, she stands for nothing but her own comfort. It will be sort of mildly interesting to watch.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:59 PM
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9. Who knows? Maybe she feels liberated to not tow the line on everything now.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:27 AM
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47. I think so. Did you see her interview...I forget with who...
But it was interesting to listen to her. I think she noted her hypocrisy in the past as far as interviewing with Rachel Maddow and you should hear her statements. They were really uplifting. She said first off that she condemns the Teaparty and she does not believe that Alaskan's make up the teaparty even though Alaskans may not want Government influence they understand government. She condemns Sarah Palin, says she has no relationship with Palin and said she believed that Palin hated governing. She also states that she's a moderate Repub and she's glad that Alaskans have proven her right. She will caucus with Repubs....but she still says she's unsure who her true friends are and I get the feeling she's going to end up leaving the Republican party in due time.
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TriMera Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:08 PM
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14. I do believe she's got a little score to settle w/ her party.
It should be interesting to watch.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:11 PM
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16. I called it last night
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=525788&mesg_id=525820

:rofl:

If she jumps, then a few more might be in line to jump. I can see Kirk needing to start off on this foot as well.

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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:27 PM
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18. I don't care how she puts it, as long as she votes for the repeal of DADT
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jonthebru Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:39 PM
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19. I think the quote is,
My enemies enemy is my friend, and my enemies friend is my enemy. Something like that.

Anyway, after what the GOP did to her if she follows them with a ring in her nose, it will prove she can't find her ethical center. Many Democrats voted for her, if she goes bad on them that won't happen again.
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:49 PM
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20. Murkowski
She may very well turn Into the Republican Lieberman.Like Lieberman she will caucus with Republicans
as he does with Democrats.But just as Lieberman goes against Democrats on some things she may be
reasonable on a few things.In fact she may be more likely to cross over to vote than Brown or Snowe.

The Republican leadership had thrown her overboard.Don't forget there may have been some Democrats
In Alaska who helped her write In campagin victory.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:57 PM
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22. That very well could be. nt
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:06 PM
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23. Yes
There were a lot of democrats that helped her. I watched on CSPAN when she announced she would run as a write in and there were democrats there who spoke up for her and helped her decide to run.

I tend to agree that she may not be so apt to tow the republican party line, and may even cross over to vote with democrats on certain issues!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #20
26. Lieberman was allowed to keep his leadership positions; the R's even divested her of that
She has no reason to toe the line on the parts of the agenda she disagrees with.

She can fuck them six ways from Sunday, and they have almost no leverage at this point.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #20
65. Back in the old days this was considered being a
U.S Senator. :shrug:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 07:26 PM
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69. Not "may have been some Democrats,"
there WERE many Democrats who voted for her, and she had vocal support from several prominent Democrats in the state, especially in the Native community (much to the chagrin of most of us). I think she has to know that she owes her victory to the center people here who put her over the top.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:11 PM
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24. Has she said who she will be caucusing with?
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 06:12 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
Presumably, the Republicans, right? :shrug:

Oh yeah, and good for her (mealy mushy mouthed) endorsement of a DFA bill with DADT repeal included. :eyes:
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #24
30. She has not said anything about that, but there is no way she would consider working
with Democrats.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:47 PM
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32. Yup-the Repubs...
just like Lieberman caucuses with the Dems. Yes-it IS good for her and US that she'd support that bill. It's nothing to roll your eyes at.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:58 PM
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35. Not rolling my eyes at her support of it
Just how she phrased it. But yeah, it's definitely a good thing. Hope she backs that up with action.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 07:27 PM
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70. She said she would be caucusing with the Republicans.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:12 PM
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25. Murkowsky is smart enough to know who her REAL friends are!
Her win was a good thing for US, for the GOP, not so much!
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:45 PM
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31. Her real friends are republicans.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. Right. Make no mistake, she's still a Republican. But she's tired of the teabagger takeover
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:15 AM
Response to Reply #31
49. Is That Why
Is that why she is emerging victorious from a battle with the proxy for most popular Republican in the land?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:49 PM
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33. She's more like an enemy of the teabaggers...
but she's still a Repub. A more moderate Repub. than most of the incoming ones.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:13 AM
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45. She beat Sarah Palin, and that's good enough for me!!!
The backstory of how the Palin family has been after the Murkowski family in Alaska politics was odd, but really highlighted the fact that Sarah actually does hold grudges and is a small person after all.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #45
51. I know! I feel the same way...
I'm SHOCKED that the media isn't playing up this angle of the story, :sarcasm: since BEFORE Miller lost, they were all talking about how hard Palin was working to get him elected.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #45
64. Tom beat a Palin-backed candidate in Palin's home state is huge!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:04 PM
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37. Rachel is reporting on this now. Lugar and Collins will vote to repeal it, too! n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:07 PM
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38. Even John Ensign says he'll vote to repeal it! n/t
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 09:08 PM by jenmito
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:10 PM
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39. And now Lawrence O'Donnell says he's pretty sure that these Repubs. will
"give cover" for MORE Repubs. to vote for the repeal, like Voinovich and Snowe.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 10:09 PM
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40. Hmm... I'm wondering if she is going to be the Republican who will not only buck
the Teabaggers; I'm predicting that she'll vote against the Republicans when necessary. They didn't necessarily make much of an effort to stand with her.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 10:14 PM
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41. GIMME an M!!! GIMME A U!!!! GIMME A K!!!!!
... spelling "Murkowski" IS hard ... but I'm glad a bunch of folks in Alaska figured it out!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:04 PM
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42. And here is the video...
.... in which her tone seems pretty clear that she WANTS to support it. This survey (no matter how many folks participated in it Sen. McCain) I think will provide the "excuse" many need to vote for repeal. I think that was the plan all along ... but I'm not allowed to mention 3d chess.

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/11/18/murkowski-dadt2/
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:49 PM
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44. I think it's temporary with her...
She is no moderate, but she seems to have that glow you might get after being lucky as hell to make another come back.

She should leave the Republican Party if she's seen the light. There IS no light at the end of a Republican tunnel.. only greed and corruption.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 01:36 AM
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46. Murkowski owes the GOP nothing now--she got elected without the party
and in the face of Princess Moosebreath's drooling hordes. She is her own person and I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see her move towards the center.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:21 AM
Response to Reply #46
50. That Was Sweet
She will be a great surrogate for us if Sarah Palin gets the nomination. I don't think most DUERS know the intrigue and animosity of their relationship.

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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:57 PM
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54. Hmmm
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 02:59 PM by cyr330
That's different than what I've heard from her in the past.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 03:12 PM
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56. Yes, it IS, which is why I wrote my OP along with the reporter's comments. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:00 PM
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58. This means we have 62 votes for repeal right?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:19 PM
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60. Yup-as long as debate is allowed. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:22 PM
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61. In theory all 62 will vote for debate to end.
:shrug:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:25 PM
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62. Yes, after debate and amendments are discussed, according to Lieberman. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:27 PM
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63. I'm sure some senator will cook up some homophobic "poison pill"
to throw at the bill.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 07:02 PM
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67. Or Lieberman will screw it up somehow. I don't trust McCain's sidekick. nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 08:23 PM
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72. I think your suspicion of Lieberman on this issue is misplaced. n/t
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:31 AM
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76. My distrust is because of his dedication to McCain. He campaigned for him and spoke at his
convention saying he supported him.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 12:27 PM
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77. Yet he's speaking out about repealing DADT even though his buddy is against it.
I wouldn't doubt him on this issue.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 08:22 PM
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71. Hmmm. We need some Repubs on this to avoid the filibuster.
However, the only thing I ever liked about Lisa Murkowski was her dislike of Sarah Palin. Maybe she will come through, who knows? Never trust a Repub though.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 08:28 PM
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73. We got 'em-on Maddow's show, she reported that Collins, Lugar, and Ensign will
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 08:28 PM by jenmito
vote to repeal as well as Murkowski!
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