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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:34 AM
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Willow Palin Facebook Posts: Homophobic Slurs, Curse Words & More
Willow Palin Facebook Posts: Homophobic Slurs, Curse Words & More Photos


Willow Palin, the 16-year-old daughter of former Alaska governor Sarah Palin, wrote multiple Facebook posts containing homophobic slurs such as "faggot" on Sunday night, according to TMZ.

The web site reports that Palin's teenage daughter wrote the comments on Sunday night, when her mother's television show "Sarah Palin's Alaska" premiered on TLC. According to TMZ, a classmate of one of Palin's children published a Facebook update claiming that the show "is failing so hard right now."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/16/willow-palin-facebook-posts_n_784585.html

what a "lovely" child, real nice "family values"
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:37 AM
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1. Sell Alaska to the Russians
and throw in the Palin family for free.
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LawnLover Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:39 AM
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2. Things aren't always as black and white as they may seem
I'm not defending Palin's kid, but there are ways to hijack facebook:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9192923/New_Firefox_add_on_hijacks_Facebook_Twitter_sessions
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:41 AM
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3. Why are you attacking a 16 year old, this is not facebook? Leave
the child alone!
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:50 AM
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4. Attacking? LOL
I think it's rather interesting. Especially since her sister Bristol gets in on the act. And now that Bristol is a "teen advocate" for the unwed, she opens herself up to scrunity, same as any public figure. I guess I'm tired of the Palin's always crying about being "victims". They want their privacy, but they just can't stop being the attention getting whores that they are.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:52 AM
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5. How old are you? In as much we here know that Palin is a joke, there
is no reason to criticize her children! You have a major problem, leave the children alone!
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:58 AM
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6. How old are you?
Maybe you should try being current. Bristol is now a "teen advocate" granted she is no longer a teen, but thats how she presents herself. And while Sarah runs around promoting abstinence, seems her own family has a problem listening to her. And that became very public during the 2008 election or haven't you heard?

and I dont see the Palin children being attacked. If anything considering all the recent suicides of young gays, the Palin children make it quite evident why gay kids are suffering.

Sorry, didnt know you were such a fan of Sarah.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:45 AM
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14. Your reply is stupid. Even if she is 18, so what? Are you a mother?
Some of you on here give Democrats a bad name. Attacking a child and then continue it. Who are you assholes?

Leave the children out of the debate, yep, her Mom is game!
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:24 AM
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19. You're the one whose reply is stupid, sorry but it's true
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 04:28 AM by girl_interrupted
You rant endlessly about "protecting" the Palins. Try living in the real world sometime..okay? We are all responsible for our own actions, no matter who our parents are. We live in a time where young gay kids are killing themselves because people chose to call them names because they don't approve of who they are.

Yet you rant on about the "poor" Palin daughters being "attacked". Give me a break. Get real.
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DeschutesRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:25 AM
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47. When Mom won't parent her child, then the village steps in - here, they are shaming the kid for bad
behavior. Which is a pretty mild rebuke, considering how cruel the kid's slurs are to her fellow humans.

It does take a village to raise a kid when the parent, like Palin, is missing in action. The bigger sin would be if posters/the rest of the world made absolutely no objection to the kid's inappropriate behavior (much like Momma Grizzly Palin is doing). Because once this 16 year old gets out in the real world in a few years, she is liable to say something cruel and unkind to a person who reacts so inappropriately as to harm her in return.

Obviously, the best result is obtained when the birth giver actually steps up to parent their child. But Palin isn't interested, so hopefully the kid will learn something from the fact that when she attacks people in a public venue, then those people and more may attack back.

She can drive a damn car at her age, and if she hurts someone with it, she can be held responsible. She has left the free pass zone of a young child and is entering an adulthood filled with responsibilities. And yep, if she attacks others on a personal level, she is certainly capable of handling having the favor returned. If not, she needs to tone down her own behavior. Not everyone gives children a free pass in this world, whether you like that fact or not. I think the "village" is being good to take this child to task for her errors.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:35 AM
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49. Willow needs to be called out
Because her mother certainly it not going to do it. Matter of fact, I read that she is making excuses for her child. She states that Willow felt attacked which is why she said what she said. Whatever, Willow is old enough to know better. I am reminded of 11yr old Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover. Poor kid was only 11yrs old when he took his life because of being called gay. Naw, Willow can take a tongue lashing from the public and she should. Because I tell you one thing, it is totally unacceptable to have kids killing themselves over such language. If a public tongue lashing gives one kid some hope that maybe the public is on their side then I say so be it.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:09 PM
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100. hear, hear, nt.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:50 AM
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55. So when a 20 year old says something indefensibly stupid...
...we should attack that persons mother?
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:10 PM
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101. Bristol is 20...
Willow is 16- both are products of an absent mother.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:30 AM
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9. Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 03:31 AM by Drunken Irishman
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:31 AM
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10. LOL!
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:39 AM
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13. HAHAHAHAHA
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:30 PM
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77. Willow!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 01:29 PM
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59. Thank you.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:30 AM
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28. So You Believe Sixteen Year Olds Get A Pass For Making Homophobic Slurs
That's fucked up thinking
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:46 AM
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53. Wasn't she 17 back in 2008?
But now she is 16?
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:11 PM
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102. Bristol, not Willow...
I no, it is hard to keep the crazy names straight.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 08:33 AM
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38. Because children sometimes embody their parent's values
and specifically this kind of activity can lead to other children committing suicide.

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:00 PM
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87. Exactly. And it can lead to suicide or worse, costing a life like Lawrence King's.
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 10:01 PM by David Zephyr
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:43 PM
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88. Oh for crying out loud! She's 16 not 6.
She's old enough to know better and its perfectly permissable to criticise her for her bigoted remarks.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:02 PM
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98. When a 16 year old does something wrong in public she is criticized in public.
If a 16 year old drives recklessly and causes injury to others she is criticized for her recklessness, in newspapers, TV news, and even on websites. Part of growing up is taking the consequences of one's actions and Willow must suffer the consequences of hers - just like every other teenager.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 01:38 AM
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117. LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE
If this was Malia Obama and not Willow Palin (and the comments were about drooling moron teabaggers), do you even for a second think they'd hesitate?

Get real.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:15 AM
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7. Shoulda heard some of the things I was saying when I was 16
Doesn't excuse her, of course - she should definitely know better, and if she doesn't she should at least know to keep her mouth shut where others can hear her - but, let's not expect angelic behavior or something.

Maybe she'll see that she's getting called on it, have a realization that, oh shit, it's not cool to do this, and retract with an apology.

And maybe a leprechaun will cook my breakfast tomorrow. Faith and begorrah!
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:23 AM
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8. You never know!
Too bad her sister who joined in, is 20. You would think she might be a better influence on the younger one. But I have a feeling gay slurs in that household aren't unusual. And maybe its just me, maybe I was brought up differently, but those terms would not have been acceptable in my home at any age.

If the Leprechaun shows up, enjoy the meal!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:54 AM
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30. I Wasn't Throwing Homophobic Slurs When I Was 16
That's for sure.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:32 AM
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11. Anyone under 18 is off limits /nt
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:34 AM
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12. Bristol is 20
So I guess it's fair.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:47 AM
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15. When did DU sunk so low, attacking a child! This place is confused!
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:55 AM
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16. LOL! 20 is a child?
Maybe you ought to sign up as a Palin defender. Its kind of funny...during the election season of 2008 this board was loaded with posts about Bristol and Sarah and whose child belonged to whom. And could you blame anyone? The irony was so thick. Sarah the promoter of abstinence. Her great sense of morality! It was comical.

As for "attacking" maybe you should take the time to read some of what was posted. The only one being attacked were those who criticized their mom's show, they were met with gay slurs. So who is attacking whom?

I'm merely posting what was said. If you think gay slurs are fine, then thats you. It isnt me.



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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:57 AM
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17. Listen up, she is a child and not responsible for what her Mom did!
That's all. What is there that you cannot understand. And yes, she is a child.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:11 AM
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18. How did her mom get into a Facebook post? And 20 isnt a "child"
and it certainly didnt get in the way of the 2008 election posts here. And not just here, it was all over the MSM. And why shouldn't it be? You can't run around criticizing other people and not expect the same.

As for the Facebook posts, Sarah was not involved. Never said she was.

Maybe you follow Palin's "Do as I say, not as I do" model. Good for you.

I dont see why gay slurs would be accepted on this board, no matter where they came from. And they happened to come from the Palins. I'm not surprised.

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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:37 PM
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70. but she is responsible for what she herself did
This is about her actions, not her mom's.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:26 AM
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24. it was the 16 year old, Willow that made the slur, not Bristol
the 20 year old. Re-read the article you posted, you seem a bit confused and me pointing out your error doesn't translate to me "DEFENDING" any Palin. :crazy:
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:29 AM
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25. Bristol joined in the posting
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 05:54 AM by girl_interrupted
Re-read the article. And I would think Bristol, a 20 year old "teen advocate" for unwed mothers, whose is also a mom with a two year old child of her own, would have better things to do with her time and the maturity to think better of lending her name to such garbage, but guess not.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:36 PM
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69. OMG wake up! The OP is about Willow (16) not Bristol (20)
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:29 AM
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48. 16 years old is old enough to know not to use bigoted slurs. That isnt exactly "a child"
My 16 year old does not call people names like that. If she did, I would expect that she would pay a price for doing so.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:48 AM
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54. She had a baby at 17 in 2008
How would she be 16 in 2010?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 01:29 PM
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60. It's two separate people
Willow - 16
Bristol - 20
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:42 AM
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52. Willow is being attacked for things she does on her own.
Get over it.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:29 PM
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66. I think the OP is not about Bristol
It is about her younger sister who is 16 I believe.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:57 AM
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32. Not If He Or She Is Publicly Using Homophobic Slurs
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:34 PM
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68. If a 16 year old is using any kind of slurs
you should attack her/his parents. They are more responsible for
the behavior of their underage children. Kids should not be attacked, and
left alone. I would welcome attacks on her parents, especially the half
governor.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #68
73. Sixteen Is A Young Adult
If a sixteen year old kills someone the law doesn't give the parents the chair.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 08:42 PM
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84. Killing is not the same as using slurs on her facebook
have some sense of proportion.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:33 AM
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92. Your logic is flawed
Either you are responsible for all your actions or you aren't.

If a sixteen year old vandalizes their school do the authorities throw their parents in the hoosegow

If I was sixteen years old and I called an African American the n word, a Jewish American the k word, or a Hispanic American the s word could I tell him to beat up my parents?
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #92
95. All I can tell you is grow up
to the real world.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #95
105. In the real world
In the real world if you call someone the n word, the k word, the s word, or the f word you are liable to get your ass kicked.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #105
113. When I was a teenager
I could not post here what I called some of the other kids.
But that was before my brain had a chance to mature. Kids are
the worst offenders of other kids, downright cruel. But that is
a normal part of growing up. I was picked on a lot because I was
always the youngest kid in class. My mother had the temerity to
house school me and enroll me in school 2 grades above my age kids.
But that actually toughened me and help me face the real world as a grown up.

To end this dialog, I pay no huge credence on what kids younger
than 18 say to each other. I prefer that they not be coddled. So long as they
do not physically hurt anyone, it is no big deal. Sticks and stones will hurt
you but words just fly into one ear and out the other.
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #92
114. Isn't this the same 16 year old girl who was in the news last year (age 15 then?)
involved with friends trashing an empty for-sale house, while Mom and Dad were out of town? Guess when you're not responsible for your actions, the problems don't go away.
Seems like the kids in this family have to act out to get attention...just saying.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #11
36. Tell that to your State, which tries that age as adults, in your
name, under the color of authority granted by you, the citizens of that State. The Fed does it as well, locks up under 18 year olds, for crimes after trying them as adults.
So what a meaningless and affected position you are taking here. Kids younger than her are incarcerated by your own State. Off limits? In what respect, Chralie?
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #36
67. Any one under 18 shoul be dealt with in juvenile courts
But I am not the governor of Wash State. I have no control.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:46 PM
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72. Not necessarily so. Age of consent isn't always 18. nt


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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #11
86. Tell that to the family of Lawrence King
Your "sense of proportion" defense for those who bully and use slurs and torment gay kids is an odd one here at a progressive website.

Your defense of the use of the term "faggot" is the only thing I see in your post. Tell that to the family of Lawrence King, whose murderer was younger than Willow.

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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:51 AM
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20. So will Sarah force her to say sorry like she wanted Rahm to for saying retard?
Eh, probably not.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:06 AM
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22. Definitely not, and you can take that to the bank!
the Palins are always the "victims" not the apologists.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:56 AM
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21. What else is there to expect when one's been raised by the Grand Wizard's Mistress?
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 04:59 AM by political_Dem
All that hate didn't just pop out of the little grifter-to-be's mouth yesterday.

I'd say she's following in mom's footsteps.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:07 AM
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23. They say children have to be taught to hate
And with Sarah they've got one hellava a teacher!
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:05 AM
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26. Are the people in this OP nuts?
She's calling people faggots and you're asking us to leave her alone?
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:12 AM
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27. Scary, isn't it?
I don't know what else to think.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 07:00 AM
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33. It just reminds me that two 18 year olds drove a fellow student to suicide
Dharun Ravi, 18 and Molly Wei, 18 thought it would be "fun" to humilate fellow Rutgers student Tyler Clementi, 18 by "catching" him in a sex act with another man and broadcasting it all over the internet. Tyler, this beautiful, talented, sensitive young man with so much to offer. But to them, he was just another "faggot". God what a horrendous loss for us all.

And I can't help but wonder if somewhere, if someone would have taught these two, to have respect for people who aren't just like them, this never would have happened. That it was wrong, that it was hurtful to treat another fellow human being like that. That to humiliate him was cruel.

But I guess no one ever did.

So do I feel bad about calling out the Palin daughters? Not in the least. Maybe the two of them could learn something. For certain it sure didnt bother 20 year old Bristol, the "teen advocate" with a 2 year old son of her own. I would have thought she would have had the maturity to say to her sister..."Look, what you're posting isnt nice, it isnt acceptable, delete it and then I will join you in posting" But..Nope.

I think its fair to say neither Palin daughter really gives a damn, that slurs are acceptable to them and I find that appalling. But not surprising, sorry to say.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 07:00 AM
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34. +1
If not for the homophobic slurs I would attribute it to typical juvenile banter and leave it alone.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:43 AM
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43. +1
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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:52 AM
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29. Can you imagine how the right would react if the Obama kids did something like this? nt
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 06:53 AM by Greg K
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:55 AM
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31. The whole family is so trashy.
America should be much better than this. I don't know why we let ourselves be so captivated by this clan of classless crackers. I am becoming ashamed of my country.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 07:02 AM
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35. How Do We Know That Wasn't Sarah Palin Hacking Her Children's Account?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 01:38 AM
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118. This would imply that Sarah is smart enough to know how to hack.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 08:31 AM
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37. No doubt today Sarah will come out telling the world not to attack her children again
The Mamma Grizzly you know. Defending her defenseless offspring against the big bad world.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 08:47 AM
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39. What lovely children she has
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:01 AM
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40. Oh, great. How soon can we look for Willow to appear on Dancing With the Stars?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:08 AM
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41. It really is not a good idea to go after these poorly raised teens
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 09:09 AM by karynnj
Remember that Palin was accepted by her right wing base as the conservative family values candidate - not just in spite of having a pregnant teen as her daughter, but was helped by that because Bristol chose to have the baby. Remember also that in the announcement of that fact, Palin blamed the left for making it an issue - saying she was proud of her daughter. (The left had NOT made an issue of Bristol being pregnant - it wasn't known. What was discusses at length was whether a woman would start a 10 hour plane trip AFTER her water broke when pregnant with a 5th child.)

Remember, Palin got away with that and her base circled around her, Bristol and Levi.

Remember how much traction Palin got attacking Letterman for implying that her innocent little Willow was the daughter he joked about. If this criticism expands, I have no doubt that Palin will have the media and RW's help in making this the left attacking Palin's children - somehow ignoring that the kids seem to lack any real values.

There are millions of things we can attack Palin on - including all her policies, her lack of interest in actually governing etc. Also consider what Murkowski's win actually means. Palin now has a committed, articulate, attractive Republican, pretty well positioned in the Senate, out there who hates her guts, who is attacking Palin on personal characteristics that are most associated with being seen as a a potential leader. (Murkowski tried to gut the EPAs authority to go after greenhouse gases and is a lock step Republican vote - so I am not saying she is good. I am saying that Murkowski's incredible write in win is an Alaskan vote of no confidence for Palin.

The pattern of her children's behavior is known and likely would have more impact if people on the right are not pushed by us to circle the wagons around her - ignoring their own reservations.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:17 AM
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42. Consider who her parents are
Kids do have a mind of their own, but in this case, I wouldn't be surprised if talk like that was acceptable in that household. Poor upbringing.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:45 AM
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44. McCain has so much to answer for
in letting this band of fools out of their dumpster.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:08 AM
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45. They are kids and should be treated as such. But wat if Sasha and Melia had done it?
Treating them as kids means, in my opinion, not blasting them as viciously as they blasted, but having there be consequences. Unfortunately I get the impression the Palins and their backers see such behavior as just fine, reflecting their own feelings while hiding behind the protection of youth and if you don't like it you're being unfair and mean. Maturity, compassion and the ability to recognize your mistakes are not the strong suits of the Palins and those who think as they do.

Imagine if Sasha and Melia had done this. I don't know, but I get the impression that Facebook priviledges would be give back just about in time for them to use it in the retirement home.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:09 AM
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46. This really is the way kids talk, and what are you going to do? It's just kids.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:38 AM
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50. Yes certaintly
The Palin kids are just kids. The kids who commit suicide, and who are bullied to death because of such talk are just kids as well. The madness is making my head hurt.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:42 AM
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51. It is terrible about the suicides, but the "F" word thing is a phase people grow out of.
And Palin's kids are not really important in the bigger scheme of things.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:59 AM
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56. They grow out of it?
How about not growing into it in the first place. I am 33yrs old, when I was growing up that word was never acceptable in my household. That word along with many cuss words and many other derog terms. I guess that was for me because I grew up in rural Missouri where the N word was common place. IMO it is not acceptable and falls in line with the N word . Now this is 2010, I want to know what type of parents and kids believe that word is acceptable. No wait, the Palins are a perfect example. No excuse!
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 12:06 PM
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57. I dislike it as much as you, but things change over time, and it will probably not be used...
in the future. It's really just a show on TV.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:57 PM
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90. Maybe I'm just old, but its the way trash talks
If you allow children to speak and act like trash, you wind up with adult-sized children who speak and act like trash.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 12:39 PM
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58. We should not be jumping on the kids. You can't choose your mother, leave the kids alone.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:24 PM
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106. Sarah Palin Didn't Publicly Call Someone The F Word
Please keep up...
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:10 PM
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61. Why is this in GDP?
nt
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:18 PM
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62. So those are the family values she raised her kids with...nt
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:45 PM
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63. Imagine the outrage on the Right if this was Malia or Sasha
Bet Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and all the rest wouldn't resist ranting.

But I bet this won't even be mentioned by the majority of liberal pundits.
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:09 PM
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64. I'm about 65% sure that this is fake
As I recall there are online programs that can create 'exchanges' like this. The grammar and diction looks like it all came from one or two people. notus u dont c any poor gramer witch is typicul of theez convos on facebook buy at lest 1 person....

Or I could be reading way too deep into this matter. However, I wouldn't put it past a Palin to talk like this, I'm just not convinced it is though.

I do hope HuffPo did their fact checking on this.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:39 PM
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78. You'll be interested to know Bristol has apologized
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:26 AM
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91. Wow
I certainly am interested....

I'm now stunned that I read that and that was a real tirade...

And major thank you for that update.

:hi:
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:14 PM
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65. I guess this is what she learns at home. n/t
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:45 PM
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71. I'm not getting the whole "don't criticize the children" of pols thing in this case
It's not like somebody is criticizing Willow's looks or the sound of her voice or something along those lines. Throwing the word "faggot" around as an insult is a shit thing to do no matter how old you are or who your parents are. Sixteen year old children of former half-term governors/reality TV stars should get called out on it just as sixteen year old children of Joe Shmoes should get called out on it.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:55 PM
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80. The people who say that really don't give a fuck that this kind of behavior, ...
even by children, leads to the death of LGBT youth. Any kid who uses this language to intimidate and bully should be publicly called out in the strongest possible terms.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:46 AM
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93. I Think Her Defenders
I think her defenders here are hanging their hat on the notion that sixteen year olds aren't responsible for their actions or all sixteen years olds talk like that. That strikes me as offensive.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:51 AM
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96. I am gonna have to apologize to you
I am starting to wonder if you were right about certain bigotries being more acceptable than others. DU is proving me to be wrong.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 04:52 PM
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74. Sarah must be so proud! nt
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:02 PM
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75. Pure class, just like her mom
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:27 PM
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76. this is possibly breaking down to the dumnest thread in DU
history.

and that's saying a lot
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:27 PM
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107. Do Young People Call Other People The F Word With Impunity Where You Live?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:46 PM
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79. 4chan and Anonymous are in her life....
Or, at the very least, in the purported exchange.

This should lead to years of amusement.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 06:56 PM
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81. Jesus Christ: "Wherefore by their fruit ye shall know them."
Sarah's child reflects the family values taught to her by her mother and father.

None other than Jesus Christ himself said so.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 07:03 PM
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82. To those who are saying that we shouldn't be criticising Bristol or Willow
what if Willow had used the n word, instead of merely fag. Would that be worty of criticism?
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:13 PM
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103. Of course it would...
this country my have stopped make African Americans sit at the back of the bus, but gay folks are still being thrown under it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:32 PM
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109. And There Are Folks On This Thread Who Would Then Back The Bus Up
Voting Democrat doesn't make you progressive.

I am appalled. Sixteen year olds,regardless of the fame or infamy of their parents are responsible for their actions.

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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 07:14 PM
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83. Try for 1 minute to imagine if Malia had done this??? The outrage it would generate. THis
is just another day for the Plalin family. Victim mentality. Nothing is their fault. The other posters forced her to use homophobic slurs.

This family is disgusting and they want to be the first family. It would be a disgraceful day in our history if these fools ever sniffed the white house.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:52 PM
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85. It sorta hurts the gay rights movement to stoop as low as to snoop on Facebook
How the hell did Willow's Facebook posts get out in the first place? Are orgs like GLAAD, Human Rights Campaign, etc. going to hack every other American teen's facebook to call THEM out too? Sheesh, while Willow's language is deplorable, it's being said in a private social forum (unless she did not make her privacy settings public) and is thus none of anyone's damn business. Or maybe an undercover rat befriended Willow, I don't know. On the other hand, I've heard the tabloid story of Willow Palin partying and wrecking a neighbor's to-be-sold house (which is just tabloid fodder as far as I've searched and I can't really verify it).
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:48 PM
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89. Holy fucking shit, now we have DUers accusing GLBT groups of criminal...
Activity? What the fuck is wrong with you?

Oh, and just to let you know, nothing is private on the internet. Where the fuck are DU's mods on this?
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:54 AM
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97. Interesting
Is there any proof that her facebook was set on private?
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:08 PM
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99. Well he is kinda right. We can't police everything and going after
some kid over a little slip like that is not making us look good. I mean, where would we be if we called out everybody that used the "f" word?

And frankly we should back off on the gay type/outrage posts as others here are probably getting tired of hearing about the latest item, as there are more important things to be done. Like helping our Democratic leaders to be successfull.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:15 PM
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104. IMO your post is not making us look good (nt)
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:32 PM
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110. Ah, another "STFU gays, until after the next election" post!
We don't get enough of these around here.

:eyes:
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:37 PM
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112. Disgusting, isn't it? n/t
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:34 PM
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111. "And frankly we should back off on the gay type/outrage posts as others here are probably
getting tired of hearing about the latest item, as there are more important things to be done." -Safety Kitten

Wow, just wow!

:puke:
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:30 PM
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108. "Snoop" on Facebook? The whole fucking POINT of Facebook is
sharing whatever you want with the rest of the world, as long as they have access to the Internet!

Your post has the stink of fail all over it!
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:15 AM
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115. Re-read the article, it wasn't willow's face book page. It belong to someone else who
criticized her mother's show, the palin spawn jumped into someone else's conversation.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 01:35 AM
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116. Nobody was snooping. She got trolled.
The troll 'capped it, history was made.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:09 AM
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94. I've heard a lot worse from a lot better...
...so, meh.
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