CBS completely butchered the interview with Obama

[impik]

If you go to CBS site and watch the complete interview, you'll be amazed by how their editing did everything possible to make him look bad. They brutally cut his answers, left out any answer in which he pushed back - they did a wonderful RW work.

Fuck them all.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504803_162-20021979-10391709.html

[FrenchieCat]

1. That's what they do.

They aim to please their corporate masters.
Plus, they want their tax cuts.

That's why I keep saying that Obama's bully pulpit
is quite controlled by the media....
So when folks believe he should use it more often,
I suggest they write letters to the media.
Worked to get KO back, so I guess it could work
to demand fair coverage of the President, and
not have airhead Contessa talk over him after
showing 1 minute of a speech.
Ya think folks would demand that or is it asking that they do too much?

[Clio the Leo]

2. Yes, I'm sure they did but...

... homeboy needs to be a lil' less verbose ... and also not use words like "verbose."

He needs to go for the one liners .... needs to spend more time watching cable news. He'd pick up some tips that way. ;)

[FrenchieCat]

4. Needs to be like a George Bush.....

the only way of speaking that folks can accept
these days, coming from a President.

Dead or alive...

Bring it on!....

Mission accomplished.....

The ownership society....

Shock and Awe.....

It's your money....

Yes we can (which was criticized as being an empty slogan...of course)....

and all that kind of shit.

[Clio the Leo]

7. Yep, needs to dumb the message WAY down...

.... it will be hard for him, but he's a smart cookie, he can do it.

[ShadowLiberal]

43. Which is why we're in so much trouble as a nation, the dumbing down of the american people

You're right that Obama probably needs to resort to emotional dumbed down soundbytes to do better in the media.

And yet that's exactly our problem today, the whole cable media is all about saying the most outrageous and emotional crap to get airtime, while real detailed intelligentual discussion gets ignored.

I mean for example, if we had a media that actually cared about the truth, then during the healthcare debate when the GOP started screaming about made up death panels the media would have done one of two things.
1) Ignore their lies about nonexistent death panels, as talking about it just empowers the liars.
or
2) Heavily go after Sarah Palin and the others who were screaming about death panels and make it clear to people that their claims were lies and that Palin & the other liars have no credibility on health care issues.

Oversimplied slogans are never the answer to our complex problems, that's part of why Bush failed so badly, he oversimplified complex issues with campaign slogan fixes rather then well thought out detailed solutions.

Bottom line, the media is our problem, they're all becoming less and less credible as journalists by the day as they continue to dumb news down and spread lies.

[treestar]

5. This stupid country elects a smart pres

Can't we just let him be smart?

I swear I wish the people who can't stand to listen to anything more than a sound bite would just STFU. No wonder everything is a disaster - we're letting the stupid people direct us.

[Clio the Leo]

8. He needs to be like "Timmy" in the Sandlot...

"We've been going about this all wrong."

We tried reasoned intellectualism for almost two years .... it's not working .... zingers .... we need zingers.

Besides, intelligence does not preclude conciseness (which IS a word, btw, you wouldn't think it would be, but it is, looked it up.)

[ampad]

34. I remember them doing this to Kerry

Kerry was just too damn smart for them as well. I think it is double Whammy for Obama though. You know that uppity negro thing....

[treestar]

36. Yep

I remember a bit of it with Gore, too. And Clinton. Remember how Clinton was criticized for talking too long?

And of course the idiots resent a black man being smarter than they even more.

[JoePhilly]

40. I did my best, but you lost me after "sound bite" ... the word "bite" ....

made me hungry ... so I made a sandwich.

And when I came back, I forgot why I was reading this.

:hide:

[impik]

9. Oh, of course. No one can understand the uppity....

Seriously, go watch the interview. I'm so mad. He gave such thoughtful answers, got a bit personal, it was classic Obama interview - and all they did was cut 70 minutes to 10 minutes of RW propaganda.

[Clio the Leo]

12. lol DUDE!!! I knew all of the answers before he said them...

.... seriously, I've got him down pat. (I listen to either the daily press briefing or the previous days town hall/press availablity/whatever as I get ready for work.)

But again PART of his problem is that his answers are TOO long. If he'd only given them 20 mins worth of answers, they would have been FORCED to air the whole thing. ;)

[RichGirl]

28. You mean he needs to become more like a republican?

You mean he needs to dumb himself down for the American people who can only understand things in short, simple sentences??? Why doesn't he have the right to be himself...just like the rest of us? I'm so sick of the constant criticism. He can't be in front of the camera for two seconds before someone says...should he have worn that tie.

[Writer]

3. I don't think the editing made him look bad, but it is too bad they couldn't air the entire thing.nt

[Better Today]

6. 70 minute interview, and they only aired 20-25 mins tops... okay, I'll go watch, but

unless there are new topics in the full 70 minute interview, I'd say it's length is not a good sign.

[impik]

10. They aired maybe 15 minutes. Maybe. And after you'll watch it

you'll agree that they killed him.

[Better Today]

14. Sorry, I couldn't watch all of it, it justs goes too long with too little said.

And to the point I watched, I didn't see the redeeming conversations that you're seeing. I just see the same ol' same ol' that we've seen over the past week.

[SunsetDreams]

15. Well since you didn't watch it in full

your assessment is a partial assessment, and I can see why you wouldn't get the full picture.

Maybe you will have time to read the full transcript at some point.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/07/60minutes/main7032276.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody">Full Transcript Part 1

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/07/60minutes/main7032277.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody">Full Transcript Part 2

Enjoy, it was very informative.

[Better Today]

16. If the 55 minutes I did watch didn't convince me, I doubt the 15 minutes would have

nor reading the transcripts of the last 15 minutes.

[SunsetDreams]

19. It's ok,

watching or reading about an interview isn't for everyone.

All is not lost, I know you tried.
The transcripts are there for others to read.
Some people prefer reading over watching something on TV or video anyway.

[Qutzupalotl]

17. Thanks for posting this.

The least people could do is read it, FFS.

[SunsetDreams]

20. You're welcome

I agree, it helps to make informed opinions and decisions.

[pnorman]

22. Thanks for that full transcript!

n/t

[SunsetDreams]

23. You're welcome :)

[pnorman]

24. I've been off TV for over a decade, and get almost all my information from the internet.

There are a few drawbacks, but overall I believe I'm WAY ahead of the game. But it sometime takes a lot of Googling to find what I want. Hence, I truly appreciate such help as yours.

[SunsetDreams]

25. Yeah I know what you mean,

I don't watch much TV anymore unless someone alerts me to something.
I much prefer actually reading a transcript in this case, or for that matter a good book.

[pnorman]

26. What happened was that I got into a dispute with the local cable outfit, and I dropped cable.

In my downtown Seattle apartment, TV reception is all but impossible, so I gave up on it. (No, COMPLETELY!) Living by myself (no kidz), I can get away with that.

Later, I got an excellent DSL connection, and I (hardly ever) looked back! In addition to a`few computers almost always on-line, I have a nice handy WiFi Netbook by my bedside. Ideally, occasional access to cable programs would be nice, but I don't believe it'd be worth the added expense. My TV is over 15 years old, and the trim is starting to fall of. But the picture quality is still good. I use it for the few VHS tapes I wasn't able to update to DVD.

[SunsetDreams]

39. I'd rather learn about things

researching on the computer than listen to some pundits spew nonsense any day.

Hey as long as the picture quality on your TV is still good, who cares what it looks like? :)

VHS tapes are not bad, we still have a VCR, never gave it up.

[pnorman]

41. I've probably become too rigid on that "No TV!" policy.

But a computer or two and a fast internet connection, are FAR better than any TV/TIVO set-up!

Almost all of my DVD purchases have been surprisingly cheap, when I bother to shop around (mainly at Amazon, or occasionally at eBay). This includes many classics. And the DVD "extras" are really great. For one thing, my hearing is near shot, and the subtitle option is a real lifesaver.

[ampad]

44. Thanks for the transcript

I wonder if that blowhard big Eddy watched the entire interview or read the transcripts. He was having a baby yesterday over the interview. Yesterday was the day I decided I was done listening to him.

[Supersedeas]

37. Fair and Balanced -- the President was being too fair with his time and too comprehensive in his

responses....so to balance that out the Corporate Media solicitor for right wing advertising had to cut and edit to fit their narrow commercial agenda.

The Pride and The Greed runs deep.

[DFLforever]

11. I haven't watched the full interview yet but I don't have any

problems with the edited version as presented.

Some people may yearn for sound bites but if you bother to listen the Pres makes the points he's wanting you to hear in very ordinary but uncliched language.

Watching this interview I understand (though don't sympathize with) the frustrations of the Repukes...the Pres talks a good conciliatory game but to me it's pretty clear the only concessions he's willing to make are those around the margins.

He's willing to admit mistakes but not in what he did, but only perhaps in the way he did it.

I quite like his stubbornness in all this.

[Clio the Leo]

13. "the only concessions he's willing to make are those around the margins."

Exactly.

[LeftyAndProud60]

18. Damn, he really talked to these people for 70mins?

[sally cat]

45. Yes.

[Supersedeas]

46. and they cherrypicked to satisfy their RW Big $$ Advertisers

[Skittles]

21. and that is our "liberal media"

:mad:

[denimgirly]

27. Anyone have LINK to the 70min FULL Interview?

I'd like to watch the unedited version.

[jefferson_dem]

29. Video here.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7032674n

[denimgirly]

30. ~*Muah!*~

Thank you! :hi:

[tomm2thumbs]

32. thanks for the link - excellent interview in it's entirety!

[MBS]

31. you're right

I'm watching the full version now, and it's WAY WAY better than the butchered version they aired.At least they DID make this full interview available on the web. We should try to spread this version around as widely as possible. There are links to full transcript there, too.

[Mass]

33. It was not a good interview from the start. The questions were biased and the president rarely

challenged their premises. Hell, how could he not say that the GOP had already announced they were unwilling to compromise.

So, color me unimpressed by this interview. I hope he gets more combative.

[seabeckind]

35. So THIS is that bully pulpit in action...

I always wondered what it would look like.

When started to watch the interview my first thought was just why would he do this? Just what did he think he would accomplish?

You don't fight irrational arguments with rationality. He is the most powerful man in the US (after the fox hosts, of course), why isn't HE controlling the message?

He deferred to a "talking head" whose only skin in the game is his paycheck.

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[mimitabby]

38. hey thanks

because of you, i went and read the whole transcript. that interview left me feeling rather unsettled, and now I know why...
we only heard part of what he said..

[Hydra]

42. Well, I think this part sums up the midterms:

"They want a government...that is looking after their interests, but isn't engaged in a whole bunch of giveaways."

Too bad he went entirely the wrong direction with it. I don't care about big government as long as it's helping the little guy. As soon as it's serving corp or military interests, I'm in the Barry Goldwater camp filling the bathtub.