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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:07 PM
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Doris Kearns Goodwin: "I think he's gotta smell more."
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 07:09 PM by polichick
She was talking with Colbert about Harry Truman and Obama - saying that we need to see the president sweating, fighting, smelling a little.

Fun segment! The prez listened to her before, maybe he will again.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/364379/november-03-2010/doris-kearns-goodwin

On edit: This part starts at 3:20
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:19 PM
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1. I really liked that segment last night
and I thought her idea of compromise was interesting...assuming he would manage to finagle getting a jobs bill out of the repbublicons in exchange for being nice to big business. Who believes business wouldn't find a loophole though?
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DemocraticPilgrim Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:20 AM
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2. OR we could start figting for him for a change,, to give him the incentive...
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 02:22 AM by DemocraticPilgrim
He's got a big battle ahead he's not going to do it if we're throwing rocks. We brush off defeats and keep ticking that's how the GOP got it done. We should be going to work on citizen's united awareness and all other battles.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:20 AM
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3. Oh noze! His spinelessness is OUR fault?
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DemocraticPilgrim Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 01:53 AM
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5. I think most times our side doesn't fight is because our side demoralize them before they even start
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 02:02 AM by DemocraticPilgrim
to be honest. They are getting plenty of attacks form the right, if the left get personal too where is their inspiration??? It's easy to fight for us if they feel we have their back I don't see that happen. The cruel bos has a far less productive workforce than the inspiational one. The same applies here. We should be fighting for the issues not our own side. The only time we need to fight our own side is in the primaries that's all if they win they should be elected, sometimes we need a conservadem whether we like it or not as we'll never have the seats to do anything, just be morally right. 6 years is looong time to redecide and 100 seat wriggle room is no wriggle.
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countrydad58 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 10:44 AM
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8. Bullshit!
I need to fight for him? No he ran,was elected, now do the fucking job that he is getting paid for! My vote for him & votes for other Dems is the only way any one other than big money interests can fight.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 05:24 PM
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9. He does that job
Enforcing the laws. If he did nothing else, he'd be doing that.

You're very confused here about the nature of the President-citizen relationship.

When there is a Republican in the White House, do you do anything to try to bring him down? Fight against him?

Some people are so negative they don't have a concept of fighting for the President. Of course you have to. That's why you likely think Republican Presidents are effective. Yet you get a Democratic one and unlike the Republicans, don't fight for what you want. But just lean back and expect the President to do it for you.

You're like a soldier who would sit there and do nothing and then scream that the General was unable to win the battle on his own. That's a better metaphor than you "hiring" a President.



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countrydad58 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 10:29 AM
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15. I sure did!
I did what I could do to rid the curse of Bush. Vote, editorials, Calling the whitehouse & my elected officials.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 05:26 PM
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10. the point is that a politician is only as strong as his support
so yes. Your spinelessness and weakness and failure to have any persistence is at the heart of it.

Don't complain that Republicans get what they want. They do not sit back and call their leaders weak. They keep supporting them.

This is politics, not a prize fight.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:31 AM
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4. She's an idiot!
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 02:07 AM
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6. I was looking forward to DKG's comment.
Interesting take on it all.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 02:24 AM
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7. The president seems to adore DKG. I hope he reads what she has to say and takes heed. n/t
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 05:42 PM
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11. If I wanted a smelly, sweating POTUS, I'd vote for a fat republican.
Haley Barbour comes to mind.

Pass.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 05:43 PM
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12. K & R nt
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