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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:25 PM
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Poll question: Voting Is A Right. Should It Become A Law?
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 02:31 PM by Dinger
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:26 PM
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1. Have drivers license / state ID, must vote. Make it mail-in.
Don't vote? Get a small fine. Fines pay for the mailers. Civics 101.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:28 PM
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2. It's not a duty, it's a right.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:30 PM
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4. Yes, You're Right
I should have worded this better, but I don't like to edit polls. Ah hell, I'll edit it anyway.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:29 PM
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3. Those who do not vote are likely to know the least about the issues
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 02:29 PM by Freddie Stubbs
How do you think that those people will vote?
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:32 PM
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6. I'm not sure they'd be any less equipt than large swatches of the GOP
who also don't really know any FACTS about the issues
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:39 PM
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8. So, would forcing those people to vote be a good idea?
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:31 PM
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5. Austrailia made it mandatory
small fine if you don't vote.
But I think they still have some idiotic politicians.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:35 PM
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7. Jury Duty should be OPTIONAL and voting MANDATORY!
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:51 PM
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14. As long as there is an option for "none of the above" or, as in my county,
"I choose not to vote." At least 539 people did exactly that in Montgomery Cty., PA.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:03 PM
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17. Sounds good to me.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:42 PM
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9. I disagree. A government that can force you to vote is one step away from forcing
you to vote for whomever they say.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:46 PM
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10. That Could Be, But Isn't There A Way To Get More People to Vote?
We do so much to GOTV, and I really can't think of another way to get MORE out to vote. Wish I had some ideas.:-(
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:50 PM
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11. Yeah. Give them something to vote FOR. After dissing the rethug fear message, that is all
the Democrats relied on - "better vote for us even if we did squat because you know the GOP would be worse."

And they wonder why that did not work...
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:50 PM
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12. I Agree (nt)
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:51 PM
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13. No (nt)
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:52 PM
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15. If you have to force someone to vote,
to get them to vote, I don't want them voting. They probably have no interest in the issues and are uninformed. Why would you want to force anyone to do something like vote? Don't get the mentality there.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:53 PM
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16. How Can We Get More People to Vote?
Without forcing them? Wish I knew. I do see your point.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:08 PM
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18. The traditional method is to offer them better policies.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:22 PM
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19. Other: it is not a Right.

You can *not* be denied the right to vote for the following reasons:

- race, color, or previous condition of servitude
- gender
- failure to pay tax
- age for those eighteen and older

You *can* be denied the right to vote for any other reason. Many do so based on prior conviction of a felony, even after the full period of the original sentence has expired. Most such laws were passed after the Civil Rights movement as a method of disenfranchising the poor, which would have included most African-Americans at that time, whose poverty is more likely to force them into criminal activity to survive. We saw this play out in 2000 when 80K people were disenfranchised in Florida by Jeb Bush.

The racist nature of the felony disenfranchisement is why many Black activists are pushing for a Right to Vote amendment to the Constitution.


Sources for existing voting rights...

AMENDMENT XV : The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude--

AMENDMENT XIX : The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

AMENDMENT XXIV : The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay poll tax or other tax.

AMENDMENT XXVI : The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.

The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of the above articles.


Note: Congress having that power means they could pass a simple law, not an Amendment, stating that Amendment XXVI applies to all citizens eighteen or older, regardless of past criminal activity.


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