Keith Olbermann whining on Twitter and proving Stewart's point.

[Drunken Irishman]

I guess he doesn't like that Stewart lumped him in with the other ideologues. But who we kidding? Olbermann is an ideologue.

[Drunken Irishman]

1. err whining, not winning. Yeesh.

[OneGrassRoot]

2. What did he say? n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

3. That Stewart jumped the shark.

[OneGrassRoot]

5. Wow. Thanks. :) n/t

[gateley]

9. Did he say why he thinks that? I disagree, by the way, I think Stewart jumped IN,

and we needed his voice in the pool!

[Drunken Irishman]

12. Because he's taken cable television to task for their divisiveness.

[gateley]

17. And???? Jeez, Keith, everybody else knows it - even your beloved MSNBC

jumps on board at times. Come back to the real world.

Thanks, DI. :hi:

[flpoljunkie]

55. Difference: Keith not lying. Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh wouldn't know truth if it bit 'em in the ass!

[otohara]

4. KO's Big Ego

I didn't hear Jon Stewart say Keith Olbermann's name.

[Sanity Claws]

8. KO was in the media montage

[Beaverhausen]

6. I have to say it was hard to see his clips in Colbert's montages

and Ed as well. No Rachel though, right?

[Drunken Irishman]

10. There was no Rachel.

And no Obama.

[Beaverhausen]

11. there were no politicians in the montages, right?

just media folk.

[Drunken Irishman]

13. Maybe it was just media folk.

You're right. I remember Rush being in there and Gary Cole - for some odd reason!

[Beaverhausen]

18. Wait, I do remember Palin, Gingrich and Grayson so it wasn't just media

[Drunken Irishman]

20. But you know, Obama doesn't really talk like a raving loon.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. He nailed Grayson to the wall, actually

Just sayin'...

[Kurovski]

31. Sassy crackpot sarah P

But I'm not quite sure what she truly is.

Pol, Newsie, teevee star, Tupperware party hostess and mom.

[Dr.Phool]

35. Don't forget Grannie Clampett.

[Kurovski]

37. Omigosh. You know, you're right

I never saw it before. In 15 more years we won't be able to tell the difference.

[marlakay]

56. your right, rachel is the modern dan rather... nt

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. Jon has taken Keith to task before. No love lost there, I think.

And you're right, he certainly is an ideologue, of Beck-ian proportions.

[whathehell]

15. I think John could have been just a LIITTLE bit more of Keith's kind of idealogue, actually

Don't flame me, Bro!

[Tarheel_Dem]

30. Don't know about Jon, but Keith doesn't even vote. Ideologues have

turned the political landscape to toxic sludge. With the rise of the opinion shows, and talk radio on both sides, there's no common ground anymore. The teabaggers & their leaders have managed to capitalize on "ideology", much to the detriment of civil discourse. The professional left, not to be left out, has become equally rabid so much so, that there seems to be no room for working together for "We The People".

Anyone who dare step across the ideological divide is ripped to shreds in the blogosphere as a traitor, which ignites the daily radio shows, and then finds its way to the nightly opinion shows. Everyone seems to be battling for dominance on our airwaves, and that includes most of the ideological left. I once thought the rise of the blogosphere, and progressive talk radio would make things better. Boy, was I wrong. It's nothing more than a battle of egos.

[whathehell]

40. Wow.....I guess you really liked the rally.

I don't know if you're old enough to realize this, but "The "professional left" as you call them, were INDEED left out -- for about fifteen years.

So, no..I'm sorry...You can buy into false equivalence, I won't.

..and good luck finding a media pundit without an ego..As of now, all four or so them are on C-Span.:eyes:

[Tarheel_Dem]

47. Not looking for a "media pundit" with or without an ego. I don't watch opinion teevee.

I stick to the news. NPR, BBC News and the like. Sorry, but I don't need anyone to tell me who to hate, I'll make up my own mind about that. ;-)

[whathehell]

49. Olbermann's not a hater....Sorry if you're "not watching" it misinformed you along those lines.

There's a difference between "anger" and "hate".

And btw, if you don't watch it...How can you criticze it?:eyes:

[Tarheel_Dem]

52. Oh, I was an avid "watcher", until KO went from advocate to Beckian style

ratings gags. I've no doubt that he may be as "passionate" as he claims, but the rants became more & more over-the-top, and I tuned him out shortly after the inauguration.

In their zeal to counterbalance Fox, they became what they despised. Screeching at the top of your lungs, and getting the cameraman all wet with spittle, doesn't replace "journalism". I think this is Jon's larger point. The hyperpartisanship that created talk radio and the blogosphere has damaged the political system beyond all recognition, and I mourn the loss.

[whathehell]

59. False equivalence, I'm afraid..

Again....Right Wing radio AND television started LONG before Keith, Air America or ANYTHING that could be reasonably called "Left"...Why the hell do you think we have so many KNOW NOTHING Right Wingers in this country?

Hint: It's NOT because the "left" is at ANY equivalence, in numbers OR length of time with the "right".

I'm sorry, but I don't think you can call MSNBC the "left wing Fox", as you seem to be doing, and I don't think many others here would either...At least MSNBC does not LIE.

You're perfectly entitled to dislike Keith's style..but, again, there's a DIFFERENCE between "anger" and "hate"...There's also a difference between TRUTH and LIES.

Being married to a midwesterner, though, I do understand that many people have a low tolerance for anger.
;-)

[Tarheel_Dem]

71. My bad. I should have been more clear. What I meant to say was...

the hyperpartisanship that created "progressive talk" & the "leftosphere" seemed to only coarsen the debate, with everyone drawing ideological lines in the sand. While KO & Ed may be cheered on obscure websites like this, it's clear from their ratings, that 99.99% of the country don't know, and don't give a shit, who they are. They're only there to reinforce the already hardened ideological views of the activist community who keep their shows alive.

The three people I took with me for early voting today, never heard of any of the names I was throwing out. I was curious where they got their news about politics, and surprisingly, not one of them watches MSNBC or listens to talk radio, which is a good thing. Two of them said that they watch CNN from time to time, if there's a big news story. I guess that's what makes "most of us" different from Republicans, we don't need to be told who the real enemy is.

Have a great day! :hi:


:edited for missing word:

[whathehell]

73. I'd say most here on DU "draw ideological lines in the sand"

Are you sure being a democrat isn't too "partisan" for you?

"obscure" website?...Maybe in North Carolina...We do have about 100,000 members..a rather large share for any political website, I'd say.

"While KO & Ed may be cheered on obscure websites like this, it's clear from their ratings, that 99.99% of the country don't know, and don't give a shit, who they are"

Uh..No...Actually it might be more like 80 percent..Most Americans still rely on non-cable news, actually...and no, I don't think that's a "good thing"...The mass media is quite slanted to the right.

As for the three people you took with you?...Sounds like they don't get out much..Sorry.

..But hey...Have a nice day:hi:

[Tarheel_Dem]

78. What slice of that 20% get their news from MSNBC? They aren't even

on the basic cable lineup. So I stick by my numbers. :hi:

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[Tarheel_Dem]

83. I pulled them out of the same orifice that you did. Fox, the highest rated

cable news network draws about 3 mil, on a good day, which is roughly 1% of the population. MSNBC, on the other hand, draws half that. You do the math. ;-)

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[Tarheel_Dem]

99. Your condescending use of the term "honey" notwithstanding, I was

around for the birth of Fox News, and quite politically active. But your dismissive tone is apparently an inadequate cover for your lack of facts. You should have a cable news show, as facts don't seem to matter to you.
:rofl:

[whathehell]

101. You're funny..

You keep saying "goodbye", but you never leave!:rofl:

[Tarheel_Dem]

103. This should be easy, please point out where I said "goodbye".

You provided no facts/links up til now. This is gonna be fun. :rofl:

[Tarheel_Dem]

107. Yoo-Hoo! "What-the-hell"????

:rofl:

Can you respond to post #108, or at least apologize for making shit up? :shrug:

:rofl:

[whathehell]

115. No.

You're having too much fun.:evilgrin:

[Tarheel_Dem]

118. I thought we were both having fun. You were making shit up, and I was asking for proof.

See? Fun. Right? And, FWIW, you still haven't provided said proof. What's up with that? :shrug:


:rofl:


One thing's for sure, I now know that I'll have to take any/everything you say with a

H-U-G-E

grain of salt.

:hi:

[whathehell]

123. No "shit making" honey

It was a case of "mistaken identity"...

And since you're easily amused, I'm sure you'll find that HI fuckin Larious!



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Buh Bye!!

[Tarheel_Dem]

126. Uh-huh. Nice cover. "Easily amused"? Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

weren't you the first to introduce the ever popular rofl smilie?

whathehell (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-30-10 06:07 PM
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82. You don't even HAVE numbers, honey
Edited on Sat Oct-30-10 06:08 PM by whathehell
Stick with small talk. :rofl:

Hair of the Dog

Now, what were you saying about "easily amused"? I mean, "What-the-hell" dude? :shrug:

And since you can't find the courage to apologize for making shit up, this is for you. :rofl:

[whathehell]

135. Good try...

but no "cover" needed..... although I understand your need for a "hook" to keep this increasingly pointless little skirmish going.

Perhaps the easily amused are less easily bored.

Unfortunately, neither describes me so continue trying to "even the score" I'm going to visit my my good friend "ignore".

Buh Bye, now!..:hi:

[Tarheel_Dem]

141. The last refuge of a scoundrel. I understand your embarrassment.

What-the-hell? :rofl:

I'm going to visit my my good friend "ignore".

What I don't understand is that you replied to me, not the other way around. You got owned for making shit up, and now we can't continue this wonderful relationship we've begun, all because I asked you to prove the the stuff you were making up? You've cut me to the quick. How will go on? :cry:

[whathehell]

142. "Patriotism is the Last Refuge of a Scoundrel", Tarheel

..not "embarrassment":rofl:

But don't worry...I like it anyway...It has the ring of grandeur!

As for that "shit" you think I "made up"...I don't know what you're talking about and at this point, dear, I'm afraid I don't really don't care.

That being as it may, some of us here actually have lives and although I HOPE you acquire one soon, I'm not going to bet on it.

With that, and the strong desire not to "make shit up"":eyes: in mind, I'm going to bid you a fond and final farewell :hi:

[Tarheel_Dem]

143. You do have trouble "making shit up" don't you? What happened to this proclamation?.....

I'm going to visit my my good friend "ignore".

You just can't win, can you? I think it's obvious to anyone that you have an issue with "truth-i-ness". :rofl:

[JNelson6563]

61. Keith is a bit too self-righteous for my taste.

I find it, to the degree he takes it, to be a turn-off.

Julie

[Tarheel_Dem]

64. Precisely. I knew as soon as I began recording the show instead of watching it live,

it wouldn't be long before I quit watching all together. I'd rather watch the DIY network & TCM, and catch my news on NPR or BBC America. Cable "news" is anything but. It's all opinion, all the time, and I don't have the stomach for it. Too much like bad reality teevee for my taste.

[Tarheel_Dem]

29. Self-Delete. (nt)

[dennis4868]

60. I agree....

KO is an idealogue for the truth.....we need 100 more KOs on TV!

[jefferson_dem]

14. "It wasn't a big shark but Jon Stewart jumped one just now..."

...with the "everybody on Thr cable is the same" naiveté"

More here. http://twitter.com/keitholbermann

Keith needs to grow the fuck up. Sure, there is no absolute equivalence in terms of extremism on the left and the right but Stewart's point is pitch perfect.

[whathehell]

22. We're all in love with John today...

No critical thinking needed.:eyes:

[KansasVoter]

93. Fuck Stewart, he had many more people he could have attacked but Keith!

[whathehell]

138. Yup....and if he were anyone BUT Stewart..

I think we'd see a lot more anger about it here.:eyes:

[enough already 2]

114. Why would anyone bag on KO?

He carries the water for the cause 5 nights a week. Stewart is talented but he's just a comedian.

[whathehell]

19. Maybe...but our "idealogues" came late to the Party and we're greatly outnumbered by the Right..

[jenmito]

21. I gotta admit that I don't like how Stewart equates people like Olbermann who POINT OUT hate

on the other side with hate on the other side. Everything is NOT a "both sides do it" situation.

[Drunken Irishman]

23. I like how he calls out the hate. I don't like the way he does it sometimes, tho.

If that makes sense.

[jenmito]

24. I understand...

sometimes he's a little dramatic and goes over the top, but, IMO, it's no comparison to Glenn Beck and the others.

[whathehell]

51. Correct....and he doesn't MISINFORM people like the other nitwits, either. n/t

[whathehell]

43. "Can't we all just get along"?

It's a nice, uncontroversial sentiment.

Doesn't seem very successful, though.

[Hello_Kitty]

109. That does not make him the equivalent of Glenn Beck, tho

Which is what Stewart was implying.

[whathehell]

42. Um..Yeah...In fact

don't we USUALLY attack that as "false equivalence"?

Just sayin.

[jenmito]

46. Yes, but it's disappointing to see it coming from Jon Stewart. n/t`

[whathehell]

48. My point exactly.

[jillan]

25. Keith - the point is that even YOU need to settle down.

Guess he didn't understand.

[BootinUp]

36. bingo

he is screaming to the other inmates half the time anymore.

[Divine Discontent]

128. Keith seems rather calm in nearly every show I see him in.

I think it's sad Jon included him with liars like O'Lielly...

[whathehell]

62. He wouldn't be the only one who "doesn't understand" either

..a lot of us here "understand" fine...We just don't AGREE with him. Period.

I'm actually amazed at so many here, so QUICK to criticize "false equivalence", when it's someone they don't LIKE, or are simply "neutral" toward.

They're still swooning over John, it seems.:rofl:

[dave29]

129. Know thy enemy

's name is spelled Jon not John

[whathehell]

136. OMG !

The travesty!..I spelled the name of His Highnesses incorrectly !!

You've GOT to be kidding me:rofl:

[dennis4868]

26. Not fair to lump KO with the others on Cable TV

Yes, KO is very passionate regarding the issues of the day and he certainly reports the news from a liberal point of view but the guy does not make shit up like the others. He goes with the facts and shows the hate and hyprocracy by repubs. Nothing wrong with this as long as you use facts. The others on cable, especially on Fox News, make up shit to tear dems down! Do not lump KO with the other Cable TV reporters. Not fair!

[AzDar]

39. +1

:thumbsup:

[renate]

50. I absolutely agree, but I think the reasons he showed Keith were:

1) He had to. FOX was definitely the star of that montage but if there hadn't been anyone from MSNBC it would have gone against the nonpartisan theme of the rally.

2) Jon was speaking specifically about the use of fear; admittedly, there's a difference between scaring people about bullshit and scaring people about the truth, but in both cases, whether rightly or wrongly, "be afraid" is the message.

So I think (or I hope, anyway) that Jon wasn't implying that Keith makes stuff up--just that he is (rightly, we would say) afraid of what is coming down the pike if the crazy people get to be in charge, and (rightly, we would say) uses that fear to communicate.

[gkhouston]

125. Neither Keith nor Ed make stuff up, but it doesn't take much to send them into "rant" mode.

Do rants educate? Do they change opinions in a positive way? Not very often, in my experience. The more dogmatic they become, the less I watch.

[whathehell]

63. Thank you! n/t

[RepublicanElephant]

27. i'd much rather someone screaming the truth than someone whispering sweet lies in my ear. nt

:loveya: keith!

[Kurovski]

32. well, there's that.

[Lost-in-FL]

28. It was a non-partisan rally.

I saw the rally and was shocked that he used Keith to prove a point but if you consider the message that Stewart wanted to sent I guess it is only fear. Keith is biased. I'll be hurt too but would grow out of it.


I liked the Anderson Cooper black T-shirt award tho.

[stray cat]

33. it was a non-partisan rally - sanity and rationale behavior from all is a great ideal

[Lost-in-FL]

34. Something greatly needed indeed. nt

[sally cat]

38. What a rollercoaster. Jon was way down after the Obama interview, then a God after the rally, now

down again after KO goes after him. He must be dizzy.

[lunamagica]

41. Keith, stop whining. As far as I'm concerned, YOU jumped the shark

a long time ago.

[dennis4868]

58. Yes Keith....

Stop being passionate about the issues and stop bringing out the hate, hypicracy, and lies by repubs and their friends in the media....you have jumped the shark.....(sarcasism)

you guys are nuts. Thank the lord for KO....he is not our Hannity or Oreilly. If this is true then you are calling him a liar.....he is the opposite of them.

[whathehell]

66. Keith doesn't whine..

Keith kicks ass!...and shark!

[BlueIdaho]

67. No, sorry - Keith whined.

He also sniveled and whimpered. I like KO but he's a big boy earning a big fat salary. He did not have to die on this hill, but his ego couldn't stand it.

[whathehell]

70. He made a statement...How does is that qualify as "whining" or "sniveling"?...

When it's done in response to your fanboy, John Stewart?:eyes:

John-boy makes a "fat salary" too..but he didn't show much intestinal fortitude today with the "false equivalence" meme.

[BlueIdaho]

76. Grow up.

[whathehell]

81. Is that the best you can do?

Take a cold shower:rofl:

[dave29]

130. well he certainly gets defensive

doesn't he

[whathehell]

137. Who doesn't?

:shrug:

[phleshdef]

44. I can still be a Keith fan and agree with John Stewart's point about loud pundits.

It should be acknowledged that Keith doesn't pull people on his show to berate and yell at them. But he is our equivalent to an O'Reilly or a Hannity. And as long as the O'Reillys and Hannitys of the cable news world exist, we need Olbermann to be exactly as he has been. At the same time though, an overall change in the discourse and the way political news is presented is badly needed.

[depakid]

113. "...he is our equivalent to an O'Reilly or a Hannity. " Again- wow.

Way to enable an legitimize Republican and corporate right talking points

This sort of attitude is EXACTLY why Democrats are staring down another 1994.

Here's a clue: Olbermann uses what are called facts. He has something called integrity and like Rachel, has a sense of ethics, and doesn't engage in persistent, unrepentant dishonesty nor cheer for a team.

Especially when members of that team show little interest that apparently old fashioned value of accountability under the rule of law.

[phleshdef]

124. Yes he is. And stop pretending like you don't know what I mean by that.

There is nothing for you to "wow" about. Olbermann is a pundit with a prime time spot and is pretty much our loudest voice on television. Thats pretty much what an O'Reilly or a Hannity is to the right wingers, pundits with prime spots and some of their loudest voices on television.

Of course Keith relies on facts. I'd never deny his role as a truth teller. But I'll also not deny that he allows his righteous anger to take him over the top and it does turn some people off. I like it, but I also can see why some people don't. Its not what he is saying but, sometimes, its the way he says it. Even Keith himself had openly admitted to the fact that he needs to cool down sometime. So you can't really be giving me shit for making light of something that Olbermann himself has even acknowledged.

You can spare me the lectures on my attitude. I'll continue to vote a straight Democratic ticket like I do every year. You can hardly make an argument that an attitude like that is contributing to any major losses. Save the attitude lectures for someone you are fit to give them to.

[depakid]

127. You really do think that. WOW.

Here's yet another clue:

This isn't about red team/blue team.

There are qualitative differences that apparently you can't seem to appreciate (probably because Keith has had the temerity to criticize Obama).

Differences, btw that are at the heart of why the nation's been declining and is still declining toward third world status.

[phleshdef]

131. And you continue to purposefully ignore the fact that I acknowledged the vast qualitative difference

None of that changes the fact that Olbermann is king of the hill when it comes to modern left leaning punditry. Thats my original point. It has absolute merit and it stands.

Keith's criticisms toward the administration don't bother me in the slightest. Keith is usually fair. Again, none of that contradicts the notion that Olbermann is to the left what Fox's top prime time guys are to the right. This isn't even something worth arguing as its pretty commonly accepted mainstream American reality. You just want to get all butt hurt about something.

[AtomicKitten]

45. No sniveling.

It's the law.

[whathehell]

65. Keith doesn't snivel...

He kicks ass!

[BlueIdaho]

69. No, he sniveled and became a much smaller man in the process.

Pick your battles Keith, pick your battles.

[whathehell]

72. No.......He just got irritated with your idol, John Stewart,

and you don't like that...:nopity:

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[AtomicKitten]

74. It's a generic admonition.

I wouldn't dream of taking sides in this teensy dust-up because first of all it's minutia and secondly I like both men, but you go right ahead.

[whathehell]

84. Teensy is in the eye of the beholder...

and please...You've already TAKEN "sides" in the "dustup" by posting..duh

So yes..I will go "right ahead" ...Not that I needed your permission.

[AtomicKitten]

85. LOL. Harrumph! You're a bit spiky today.

[whathehell]

87. I suppose that I am.

[whathehell]

92. AtomicKitten, I forgot..

to thank you for your excellent humor:hi:

It can be a rare item here, as you may have noticed.

[AtomicKitten]

97. cheers

:fistbump:

[whathehell]

100. Back at ya!

:fistbump:

[RepublicanElephant]

53. msnbc is re-airing keith's friday show NOW!!!!

no prison stuff!

[last_texas_dem]

54. Eh, I like both Stewart and Olbermann, but

honestly, I think Stewart has his schtick just like Olbermann has his. They're both smart guys that I respect, but I believe that both, to an extent, are expected to play certain roles and are willing to do so.

Stewart may be a liberal in reality, but he's expected to mock both sides on his show and at this rally since it isn't being promoted as being exclusively for liberals; thus he's stretching a bit to paint conservative and liberal ideologues as equal offenders here. And Olbermann does sometimes go over the top in his rhetoric, even when the truth is undeniably on his side- but I've never seen him go into the crazyland nonsense guys like Glenn Beck go into; this is why I think comparing liberal and conservative ideologues as equally "out there" is a bit of a stretch.

[LittleBlue]

57. If he's attacking Olbermann, then he's an idiot.

Olbermann is a good friend to the powerless. If that's an ideology, it's one I share.

[KansasVoter]

95. +1000

[Imajika]

68. Olbermann is right...

Further, the more I think about it the less I believe the rally accomplished anything good.

It is pointless to poke fingers at fearmongers unless you single out specifically who they are.

There is a world of difference between the likes of O'Reilly and Keith Olbermann. Both are partisans, but O'Reilly IS a fear merchant while Olbermann is trying to get the truth out.

By Stewart's logic, Democrats could be considered the fear mongers. Afterall, in this particular election cycle, Democrats have aired MORE personal negative attack ads than Republicans and those ads are usually trying to make sure people RIGHTFULLY fear what will happen if these nutty tea party people get elected.

This rally, in my opinion, wasn't terribly funny and doesn't help us very much politically.

I am sure the attendee's had fun, but I AM a political partisan and I want to WIN.

[Born_A_Truman]

75. Sometimes 180 degrees from dysfunctional ...

is just as dysfunctional.

[Ramulux]

80. Stewart has been doing this for a while

and it kind of pisses me off. Is Keith a liberal commentator? Yes. Is he anything like any republican commentator? No. Does Keith go on his show and lie and make bigoted statements on a regular basis? No.

I am having trouble understanding how Keith constantly gets caught in this whole thing. Keith is a liberal, that's it, hes not some wild-eyed communist, he is a regular liberal-moderate who has a show where he expresses his opinions which are usually backed up with facts. To compare him to anyone on the right is extremely insulting and if I was him I would go after Stewart much harder because the comparison is bullshit.

[whathehell]

89. You are correct, Sir.

But the "fans" are still swooning.:eyes:

[jenmito]

98. Thank you...

I'm so sick of people acting as if Olbermann and Maddow on the Left=Beck and Hannity on the right. Stewart seems to have fallen for this narrative.

[AndrewP]

104. Agree 100% n/t

[BlueStater]

90. I'm going to have to side with Olbermann.

Comparing him to FOX News commentators who deliberately lie on a daily basis is a low blow (not to mention untrue).

[CBR]

91. Keith is an ideologue and not someone to be taken seriously for

news. As a liberal political talking head, fine. What we are missing is REAL news, real journalism. I want to know what happens outside the world of the DC pundit and you cannot get that from the TV news.

[KansasVoter]

94. -1 and unrecs seem to be winning!

[Arkana]

96. There's a reason Keith and Ed showed up in the montage but Rachel Maddow didn't.

Keith and Ed are bombastic.

[AspenRose]

147. Yep.

And that doesn't make someone a "fanboy/fangirl" (or whatever other disrespecting, juvenile namecalling label) for recognizing that. If anything it makes you astute.

Love Rachel Maddow.

[Faygo Kid]

102. Keith speaks truth to power. I disagree with Jon on this one.

I was there, but to say that Keith is the equivalent of Beck or Rush or anyone on Faux News is just wrong. There is no moral equivalence. It's time to challenge Jon on that.

[Bluenorthwest]

105. then tell me what Jon said.

I heard him say no word about Olbermann. You claim he said Keith is the equivalent of Beck? I doubt that very much.

[Faygo Kid]

106. He included Keith multiple times in a video about intolerance, along with Beck and Rush.

And others. Sorry, no moral equivalence there.

[Bluenorthwest]

108. Oh I saw the videos...Had no idea you

meant those montages, which represented the views of the Stephen character and the Jon guy, and were most certainly not a thing said by Jon about people. The montage was about language, not persons, and it was meant to have two points of view, not to represent 'what Jon thinks'. It had context in the narrative of the show.
Seems Jon and Stephen had a point about the way language gets sharpened into a thing personal and not exactly accurate too often.

[DatManFromNawlins]

149. You miss the bigger point

Starting off from the position that you believe that everyone who disagrees with your position makes them unreasonable... makes YOU unreasonable.

Olbermann is nothing more than a poor man's demagogue, and has been for years.

[depakid]

110. Wow

[SidDithers]

111. He reacted like a spoiled child...

when criticized in a Kos diary a few months ago, too.

Too much ego in KO for my taste.

Sid

[Uzybone]

112. Its quite beneath KO to be so sensitive

Serious people should have thicker skin.

[Skittles]

132. same here

I got off the KO bandwagon long ago; I too realized his ego is quite massive

[baldguy]

116. Exposing RW lies is not the same as RWers lying.

Promoting that false equivalency does nothing to restore sanity.

[polichick]

117. Just home from the rally - GREAT DAY! but it did bug me to see...

Keith and Ed included in that group. imo what the left is doing in pointing out the hate is very different from being haters.

[bullwinkle428]

119. Curious to see if Ed Schultz will say anything, as he showed up

more in those clips than anyone else on the left.

[Kurovski]

120. Working class people of all stripes have a tendency to be

very expressive of their sharply diliniated opinions. At least they were in my milltown. It's why FOX employs it around the fucking clock.

Stewart is a cooler-headed, smoother college lad.

[whathehell]

139. It may be more a matter of temperment.....and position?

K.O. being a "college lad" as well.

[Kurovski]

121. 8

EDIT: deleted, heading out and won't see answer.

[Jennicut]

122. Jon Stewart regularly skewers the extremely opinionated pundits on cable news.

And he is right in that they are all full of huge egos. KO and Ed are on our side but they are still blowhards looking for ratings at the end of the day. Opinionated news killed real news a long time ago. Everything is debate. There is no reporting on legitimate facts that all reporters should follow. Stewart is simply telling a basic truth.

[Sky Masterson]

133. I like Kieth,Ed annoys me

They both sometimes do. They do their shows in the style of talk radio.
Several years ago I wanted that type of "In your face" show.But now..Not so much.
Maddow does it how it should be done IMHO..You noticed that she wasn't in the montage.
Stewart skewered the vitriol(Even truth can be vitriolic).
Every body who made the cut earned the spot..
The whole Idea is that not everybody is as partisan or divided as we are led to believe we are.

[docvet]

134. Tsk!

Keith and Rachel are the corporate counterweight to Beck (and others). Divisive? Of course! Keeping stupid americans in the politics as a team sport mentality. Us vs them and all that while the true culprits in government continue their criminal antics. Sadly, people continue to fall for this garbage. O'Reily this, Beck that...whatever! We need to unite as AMERICANS not left or right and end this tragic state of affairs. The corporate media best interest is not this one, obviously!, so we get more Rachel, Keith, Beck and O'Reily with their frenetic rants and stupefying comedy skits.

[Name removed]

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[HipChick]

144. Did either Keith or Ed make any comment on their show today about the rally?

Both seem to ignore it..Tweety got testy and defensive..hmmm

[whathehell]

145. I didn't see any of them over the weekend, but your comment about Tweety

is interesting.

Did he seem to testy in DEFENSE of the rally or in opposition to it?

Just curious.

[polichick]

148. Ed was pissed about it on his radio show...

It really bothered him that Stewart would equate him with the crazies on the other side. I was at the rally and had a great time, but that really pissed me off too. We'd be in a much worse place without Ed and Keith calling people like Beck out.

[Mr. Sparkle]

146. I agree with Keith.

Jon Stewart, as much as i still like him, thinks he is one of those liberals above the parapet. He tries to pretend he has no skin in the game which is BS and sanctimonious.

I have watched many liberal commentators / hosts do this in the last 2 years and it really has gotten on my nerves.

But as for this squirrel, I think Olbermann's later tweet nailed it, when he said before MSNBC liberals, there was only one voice out there and that was the right wing crazies.