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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:23 PM
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Obama's approval at 43 % both at rasmussen and gallup.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:26 PM
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1. Snap
We need to hope the economy improves by 012 because there is almost a one to one correlation between an incumbent's approval rating and his or her share of the vote.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:20 PM
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7. Why do you say snap?
To me snap means gotcha.

Due to the subject of this OP, surely your "snap" has a different meaning? If so, please explain.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:11 PM
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12. snap
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:45 PM
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9. Unless you are George W. Bush
Who seemed to get more votes despite that.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:32 PM
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2. You can't compare Gallup and Rasmussen
Not because rasmussen is assumed to he biased (you can correct for that... And even those who think he makes up his numbers agree that he's deadly accurate at the end of a race)... It's because they don't really ask the same question. You don't get the same answer when you give people the option of "somewhat approve" etc.

But no... Neither number is "good"
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:42 PM
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3. thanks for the concern
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:44 PM
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4. Thanks for your non concern.
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 01:44 PM by Mass
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 01:50 PM
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5. I Don't Think We Are Supposed To Discuss Bad News
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:30 PM
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14. It's not bad news. It's, at the moment, incomplete news.
Gallup and Rasmussen polls have consistently been up and down over the last year. Obama's approval will be 45% one day, 43% the next and 47% again by the end of the week.

It's pointless to take just one aspect of a daily tracking poll and use it as proof we're doooooooomed.

Especially when other static polls (not daily) show Obama with okay approval.

Yeesh.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:33 PM
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16. 43% -47% Is Really Just Bumping Around Within The MOE
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:44 PM
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20. Pretty much...
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 03:44 PM by Drunken Irishman
Pres. Obama's approval has been pretty fluid since 2010 really began.

On the 10th, he was at 47-46. On the 1st of October, he had a disapproval of 50%.

So, again, it's all over the place. But the constant theme is that his approval generally bounces from 43-47%.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:16 PM
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6. Sweep it under the rug
get on with the process.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:31 PM
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15. Sweep what under the rug?
Do you know how many polls are out there? Do you know how unsettled daily tracking polls are? Only fools would get uptight over a daily poll from Gallup or Rasmussem because they ALWAYS change.

Damn, sometimes I wonder about DU.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:13 PM
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31. I waited a day before declaring the sky is falling and guess what? Obama's at 49 in Rasmussen
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:39 PM
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8. Ahh yes, one of the trite and over-used DU put-downs. How clever. n/t
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:14 PM
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32. it is an appropriate response to those who are out to spread dismay
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:57 PM
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10. My concern would be *more* profound if POTUS was in Congress and actually on the ballot.
Oh well... We'll see where things stand once the race for 2012 kicks off, which will be sometime next January.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:09 PM
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11. Local and state polling has been on the upswing though...
These polls fluctuate a lot. The local and state polling has been much better.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:28 PM
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13. Okay. And?
Just last week, Obama's approval ratings were fairly decent in these two polls.

It's noise. Why people get caught up in the daily watching of daily polls is beyond me. Unless you're just looking at something to be negative toward. Then, I guess, you would post this.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:34 PM
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17. I would agree, but do you rant this way when posters post these polls when the numbers are up.
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 03:43 PM by Mass
My point was that the polls were down in both. In general, they go in different directions. That is all. And this made me more pessimistic. Hell, when Barney Frank has to fight for his seat, this does not lead to great optimism.

In between, seeing my governor and president speak made me feel better, because they are aware of the situation.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:54 PM
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21. Pretty much...
I've always said you look at the Gallup poll as a whole and not just a sample.

I've been saying this since the 2008 presidential election.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:35 PM
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18. I just can't trust either of those organizations...
But, regardless of organization, polling for presidential approval is deceiving - disapproval is lumped together, whether you're disapproving because you're a racist teabagger or you're disapproving because you think, as I do, that the president campaigns with great Democratic rhetoric but governs without the fight to put that rhetoric into action. In the first case, the disapproval means a no vote. In the second case, the disapproval means a yes vote.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:37 PM
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19. Yes, I know. I have been arguing that for a long time as well.
Just a moment of pessimism. Now, let's go back to make sure I get a Democratic governor.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 04:57 PM
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22. In two years all will be better. Everyone will get the president they deserve. Both Right AND Left
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:00 PM
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23. Thanks for posting this
I have noticed this as well. President Obama, as much as I dislike it, is in an epic approval ratings crash right now. Probably due to the Friday last jobs report and public backlash over the chamber of commerce story which they are too stupid to understand. It can't be denied, however, that he is crashing through the floor and this could tip the balance on November 2nd.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 10:42 PM
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24. And next week it will probably be 47 or 48% these tracking polls are for the birds because...
they are up one week and down the next.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 08:00 AM
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25. OBAMA SURGING IN (R)ASSMUSSEN!
Clocks in at 47% today! Whew... Thank goodness. That was a close one. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:25 AM
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27. Oops-I see we had the same idea!
I should've checked/refreshed this thread before posting the same thing. :)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:16 AM
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26. And today his approval is at 47% in (R)asmussen...
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 12:14 PM
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28. LOL so much for my approval ratings crash idea
Edited on Sun Oct-17-10 12:15 PM by Politics_Guy25
Thank god. So relieved to see this 47% today. Honestly, though we have to be at 46-47% or so on election day or our senate hold will be tenous. Just going to be really nervous these next 2 weeks.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 01:50 PM
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29. 44%. These polls bounce around all the time. I have come to rely less on daily tracking polls
lately as they just change throughout a week too much for my tastes. Do we really need to know what a President's approval is every single day? It is just too hard to measure and it fluctuates a lot.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 02:13 PM
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30. Really, it's of no concern. Obama's numbers have been jumping around anywhere
between 43% and 45% to 47% and 50%. Seems like the same 5-7 point fluctuation, and it's most likely do to "noise" and bias in polling methods. That's always to be expected.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:23 PM
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33. Not anymore it's 49% today in Ras
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:31 PM
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34. Obama is not running for office this year.
The publics "approval" of him, or the lack of it, is as insubstantial as air.
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