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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:30 AM Original message |
Insurers must pay 90% of premiums to medical care under deal |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. Wow - that's roughly parallel to minimum payouts in Vegas |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Well, it is a form of gambling - sorta. n/t |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. I've always said that Health Insurance is an almost exact analog... |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. And I can refuse to go to a casino. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
2. boom! there it is. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. That's CHANGE I can believe in... so does Howard Dean and Paul Krugman, apparently. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
4. IF that proves to be true, I think it's a good compromise. |
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TheCoxwain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. The only people who will lose jobs in that industry are claim processors as the insurance cos cant |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Wellll...they could always reduce the CEO's compensation! Also |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 06:30 AM Response to Reply #4 |
44. God forbid the people who work in the insurance |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. Now thats a big deal compared to current practice |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
6. There is a reason why all of the progressives... |
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johnlal (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
7. No public option, no deal. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. yes, even if its a crappy PO |
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johnlal (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Not "crappy". |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. the robust PO was stripped from the bill more than a month ago |
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johnlal (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Yes, and a lot of Democrats pledged that they would not vote for the bill |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. But you're getting more regulation in exchange |
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johnlal (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. We haven't gotten anything in exchange yet. |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. So a provision that basically caps profits is nothing? |
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johnlal (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Don't you see that the Dems keep bidding against themselves on this? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. A public option on a "level playing field" is redundant to private exchange plans |
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johnlal (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Level playing field? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I'm not sure what you are referring to |
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johnlal (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. They aren't advocating single payer |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. "I think you're wrong" |
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johnlal (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I think you are wrong because |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I agree with you on many points |
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johnlal (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I think there has to be some point where we say "Put up or shut up". |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
8. The audacity of these CORPORATISTS taking away profits from these CORPORATIONS. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
9. It should be 99.9999 %. Anything else is corporate welfare |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Medicare couldn't even survive on that.* |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. 99.99999999 %. then |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Um, people who have jobs with the companies don't work for free. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
21. That's right. MSNBC says Congressional HC-like plans will be offered by private NON-PROFIT insurers. |
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mcablue (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
25. Baucus, Lieberman et. all will probably scrap that option |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
29. If true, great news. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
31. Does Actuarial Value Trump Medical Loss Ratio? |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Very important point. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Thanks and yes it is, otherwise the uninsured will become the underinsured... |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
32. And they will enforce that how? Calling Arthur Anderson. Calling Arthur Anderson. nt |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Important point ! n/t |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Al Franken had similar admendment |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
42. And I was told Obamacare just wants to keep friends. ~sigh~ Why do some DUers lie to me?! |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
43. A stupid indirect way to do regulation |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
45. Did you mention that there are no enforcement mechanisms? n/t |
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