Chuck Todd: This cake is baked there is no more persuading the base

[bigdarryl]

the young voters are not surging according to Chucky Cheese. So according to him we might as well stay home because the media says there is no more persuading more democrats to get out and vote

[rocktivity]

1. If he didn't look a little like an ex-boyfriend of mine

he'd be TOTALLY useless.

We're still four weeks out, Chuckie!

:boring:
rocktivity

[RockaFowler]

3. It doesn't matter

Chuck says it's over. It must be over. I mean he's been so right before this :)

[Perky]

2. I am not sure you can consider 2nd time voters part of the base?

One election does not loyalty make/

:shrug:

[bigdarryl]

4. He's a DICK HEAD!! plan and simple

[Pirate Smile]

5. No. That is NOT what he said. He said there really aren't any more persuadables - which is the

mushy middle. The point was that the only option is to get the Democratic surge voters to show up and the parts of the base that don't show up for midterms.

The focus now isn't persuading Independents. It is getting the Democratic or Democratic-leaning voters to show up - Primarily - African-Americans, Hispanics and Young voters.

The people who frequent a political board like DU is NOT who they are talking about. Chuck said it looks like African-Americans and Hispanics are coming home BUT there is no evidence yet that young voters are yet.

That is why Obama is holding a rally in a college town tonight - Madison.

That is why Biden is at another college town today in PA.

They are trying to wake up the young voters.

He said this based on a new NBC/WSJ poll that is coming out tonight.

edit to add:

Obama's New Tone: "Inexcusable ... Irresponsible"

Posted by Michael Scherer Tuesday, September 28, 2010 at 1:09 pm
46 Comments • Related Topics: barack obama , 2010 elections, rolling stone

The most important part of the new Rolling Stone interview with Barack Obama is probably what the president forgot to say. At the end of the talk with Jann Wenner and Eric Bates, after some chit chat about iPods, Jay-Z and Lil Wayne, the president got up and left the Oval Office. But then he came back, apparently because he felt he had failed to drive home the reason for granting Rolling Stone the interview in the first place--the magazine's vast audience of younger readers:

One closing remark that I want to make: It is inexcusable for any Democrat or progressive right now to stand on the sidelines in this midterm election. There may be complaints about us not having gotten certain things done, not fast enough, making certain legislative compromises. But right now, we've got a choice between a Republican Party that has moved to the right of George Bush and is looking to lock in the same policies that got us into these disasters in the first place, versus an administration that, with some admitted warts, has been the most successful administration in a generation in moving progressive agendas forward.

The idea that we've got a lack of enthusiasm in the Democratic base, that people are sitting on their hands complaining, is just irresponsible.

This is not the professorial Obama, all cool and detached. It is the president in full parenting mode, talking to his own base like a father talks to his 15-year-old son after three straight days of playing Halo instead of doing homework and chores. The Rolling Stone editors wrote in some description of Obama's motions as he said these words, saying he "spoke with intensity and passion, repeatedly stabbing the air with his finger."

This same fire was in evidence Monday, when Obama joined a conference call with college reporters. "You can't sit it out," Obama told the college reporters about the midterm elections. "You can't suddenly just check in once every 10 years or so, on an exciting presidential election, and then not pay attention during big midterm elections where we've got a real big choice between Democrats and Republicans." Again, not Professor Obama. Papa Obama.

For Democrats, his chiding tone could not come sooner. The great mass of first-time, unlikely, young and minority voters that changed the electorate in 2008 has been largely missing in action for the last year. Young people have not shown up in statewide elections in Virginia, Massachusetts or New Jersey, and pollsters say they are unlikely to show up in large numbers this fall. These same groups have been some of the hardest hit by the economic recession. They are once again disillusioned with politics, even as they continue to respect and admire the president.

As with any parent who tries to draw a line with his teenager, the president is taking a small risk: If young voters fail to abide the president's castigation, he could have even less stature to ask for their help next time in 2012, when the President really needs their help. And unlike my metaphorical father, Obama doesn't have the power to just take away the Xbox.



Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/09/28/obamas-new-tone-inexcusable-irresponsible/#ixzz10qijUZax

[stevenleser]

16. Gallup says the least energized part of the Democratic base is white women.

That is where we need to concentrate GOTV.

[flamingdem]

31. This post is more relevant than the original OP - PLEASE READ thanks nt

[gkhouston]

6. Four weeks out and we're supposed to give up on the youth vote? I don't think so.

Getting nervous, Mr. Todd?

[DevonRex]

7. Have you checked out GD lately? That's what some there are hoping for, too. nt

[displacedvermoter]

13. Who exactly is that?

[frylock]

15. the only people saying that are the cheerleaders..

none of the so-called whiners are hoping the dems lose. on the contrary, the whiner wing of the party intends on voting dem so that the admin doesn't have any more excuses.

[Bluenorthwest]

20. the bearing of false witness

I see many who claim they hear and see these things, but all I see and hear is the same folks repeating generalized accusations. No evidence. I think they are delusional.

[JaneQPublic]

8. TV analysts also said "the cake is baked" in 2004 when Dean was ahead by a mile.

A month later, Dr. Dean was yesterday's news.

There is good reason that these political pundits don't revisit their earlier campaign forecasts to check their accuracy.

[karynnj]

10. True - and like then no votes had yet been cast

There are several difficulties with polling that even completely honest, unbiased and brilliant statisticians can not control for. The biggest is that the models for who will vote are created to identify a group of people likely to vote and eliminate those in the sample that are more likely than that group not to vote.

One thing I take some hope in, is the same thing was said before the small number of special House elections - and we did well in them.

[OHdem10]

9. Sounds like another coup de tait. The Media has decided the

election just as they did for GWB initially.

Just work underground--contact everyone you know and
keep them interested until election day.

[smalll]

23. I was wondering exactly what you meant by "coup de tait" --

Was this a reference to Orly Taitz? Or maybe something called a "coup de tete" -- which I guess would be a blow to the head (or perhaps a facepalm) --

but then I figured it out. You mean

coup d'etat.

[Wednesdays]

11. A little wishful thinking, perhaps?

Do you believe in fairies, Chuckie? Say quick that you believe! If you believe, clap your hands! Clap louder!

[WI_DEM]

12. As long as pollsters use their "likely" voter model it will show the GOP ahead

among registered voters Dems are ahead--the thing is just because you tell a pollster today that you "might" not vote or "may" vote doesn't mean that you won't vote on November 2.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

14. Yeah, because Chuckie was SOOOOOO right in 2008!!! FAIL!!! n/t

[old mark]

17. He was an asshole in '08, and he's an even bigger one now...nt

[young but wise]

18. He wish.

[MyNameIsKhan]

19. Chuck Todd is baked, everyone else is waiting for escense.

I can't wait to vote this elections

[smalll]

24. What does that mean? "escense"? /nt

[8 track mind]

21. "someone left the cake out in the rain, that sweet green icing is running dooooooowwwwwwnnnnn!!!"

sorry, Mac Aurthur park moment....

[lovemydog]

36. and it took so long to bake it

[Aramchek]

22. and you may ask yourself, why are you spreading Chuck's lies?

[David Zephyr]

25. Chuck falsely defines the youth vote just as badly as his beard defines his missing chin.

He's wrong.

[peekaloo]

27. pretty sure

that's a Dirty Sanchez he's sportin'.

[Lilith Velkor]

26. The cake is a lie.

[marlakay]

28. Well after being told over and over again how stupid

and unimportant we are no wonder. I am voting because I always vote but people who need to have a reason probably won't.

[Iris]

35. dead on. n/t

[xxqqqzme]

29. Chuck Todd:

everything after that is utter nonsense.

[Supersedeas]

30. looks like the man knows cake.

[Aramchek]

32. I'll repeat this one more time, Chuck Todd looks like he just chugged a hair milkshake

that is the only explanation for that misshapen patch of fur that he calls a goatee

[AtomicKitten]

33. In Wisconsin yesterday, Pres Obama drew an audience of 26,500.

That compared to the 17,000 audience he drew during the election means, oh dear can we deal with the good news?, his popularity with the base has increased.

Hey, Chuckie boy --

[yurbud]

34. it's not too late to rouse the young: ending DADT or some other big symbolic issue would do it

[craigmatic]

37. Todd is full of it in 08 he refused to call states for Obama when the results could be

seen weeks ahead of time. Now all of a sudden he thinks it's over for democrats. He's just a lazy pundit like alot of the people on the news lately.

[mkultra]

38. i think Chuck Todd posts here on DU with several Ids