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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:22 PM
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TIME - "The Secrets of Obama's Underappreciated Success" - Lost In The Fox News Narrative
I have posted how all cable news seems to follow the same script as Fox News. Even MSNBC is reactionary, in that KO and Maddow often respond to and debunk right wing narratives, which takes away from the coverage of pro-liberal stories.

No one really seems to dispute that the U.S. has been in the deepest recession since the Great Depression, and the U.S. was not alone. Indeed, in today's interconnected world, it is almost impossible to avoid getting sucked into a recession when world financial markets implode as they did in late 2008. Yet, People pay lip service to the fact that President Obama inheritted a huge mess, but then they expect the U.S. to be well on the road to recovery a scant year or two later? Worse, the U.S. media simply pushes right wing talking points about inflation and the need to cut the deficit in the face of substantial contradictory evidence.

President Obama saved the U.S. auto industry, passed the most comprehensive health and financial reform in decades, and saved thousands of jobs through the passage of the stimulus in the face of Republican opposition that is willing to plunge the U.S. into Great Depression II for political gain. Also, he did this while he was handled two wars by Bush.

So, here is a nice article from April that is a welcome reminder and exception from the typical media narrative of polls predicting dismal results, and the Tea Party being a harbinger of a conservative renaissance. Still, the corporate media narrative is pervasive, and Fox News talking points can very well be repackaged as progressive ones by an anonymous Rand Paul staffer.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1984460,00.html


Barack Obama's right-wing opponents cast him as a socialist failure. His left-wing hecklers see him as an overcautious hedger. But, critics notwithstanding, the President is on a path to be a huge success by the time of November's midterm elections.

Before the jabberers on the right (What about the huge debt, the broken tax pledge, the paucity of overseas accomplishments?), the yammerers on the left (Guantánamo hasn't been closed, gays aren't serving openly in the military, and too many policies cater to business interests) and the chides in the media (POTUS and party poll numbers are down, and Washington is more partisan than ever), look at the two key metrics that underscore Obama's accomplishments. It is too early to assess the ultimate measure of victory: whether the President's actions have been prudent and beneficial, domestically and internationally. But by Election Day 2010, Obama will have soundly achieved many of his chief campaign promises while running a highly competent, scandal-free government. Not bad for a guy whose opponents (in both parties) for the White House suggested that he was too green in national life to know how to do the job — and whose presidency began in the midst of a worldwide economic crisis that demanded urgent attention and commanded much of his focus.

Let's start with the competence Obama has shown. As he proved in the campaign, he is a master of personnel decisions, choosing people who are excellent at what they do, but also requiring that they play nicely with others. In the two most vital areas, national security and economic policy, all the President's women and men generally get along well with one another, and have had critical roles in advancing the agenda. It is true that the economics team has some rivalries, and the Administration still hasn't figured out how to overcome its collectively weak public-communications skills on the economy. But overall, the White House is populated by hard workers who are rowing in unison to advance the cause and rarely take their disagreements public through damaging leaks.

* * *
Over the past 16 months, both Biden and Emanuel have expressed concern internally that Obama has been too bold, risking his presidency on big bets. But those disagreements with the President have been fleeting and mostly futile — and, as it happens, unwarranted. So far, most of Obama's big bets have paid off.



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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:25 PM
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1. We have fewer jobs than a year ago
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 11:27 PM by MannyGoldstein
And Obama's attacking Social Security.

I'm not sure that this is success for working Americans.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:27 PM
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3. Making shit up is an art that's being practiced in the most unlikeliest places......
like DU.

Obama is not attacking social security.

Why are you here....?
we have elections to win, and it is obvious
that you aren't interested in any of that.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:29 PM
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6. We need to be honest about our situation before we can improve it.
As to SS - why else would Obama appoint a cadre of people who've openly called for slashing it? Why else?

Both co-chairs have actually tried to slash it in the past, Rivlin's called for slashing it, etc. And Obama pointedly will not deny that he'll slash it - only that he won't privatize it.

Wake up.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:31 PM
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7. You need to be honest.....and you're not!
OBama is not attacking social security.
Quit it with your propaganda!

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:37 PM
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12. Then what's the answer to my question?
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 11:49 PM by MannyGoldstein
He could have picked many people - why did he pick so many who've called for slashing it?
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:11 AM
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26. Is the repeated call to "have one's questions answered" considered an
Edited on Tue Sep-21-10 12:11 AM by Malikshah
honorable part of shit-stirring and obfuscation?

Over the last seven or so years, I see the same patter used again and again when someone is called out. They ask and inane question is meant to distract people from their previous shit-stirring statement and then go on and on until said question is answered.

The point is that folks are not going to play that tired old game.

BTW...no need to answer my question. :)
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:41 AM
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35. Indeed, we’ve now seen eight consecutive months of job growth in the private sector
http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/09/03/the-obama-administration-is-weighing-new-tax-cuts-to-stimulate-the-economy-will-they-do-anything/

Oh, and "why else" is not an argument that Obama is attempting to destroy SS - that's your consistently negative spin against this administration.

Why are you so hateful against Obama and Democrats in general? It's comes across as almost irrational at this point.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 03:56 PM
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40. There are truly none so blind as those who will not see
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:34 PM
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:38 PM
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13. +1200
:thumbsup:
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:56 PM
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22. Seconded !
:evilfrown:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:58 PM
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23. Thirded ...
... is that an actual word?

:shrug:
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:45 AM
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36. Naw you need to wake up
and actually post some damn linky links to back up your claims. This is not freeperville and oh yes I did go there. This is DU where the people are smart enough to know that you back up claims- especially accusations against the dem president- with sources. If what you say is your opinion then make that clear. I suspect this is the very reason I have not seen a couple of your buddies around here as of late. I suspect they got the tombstone for this type of nonsense. You typing it on the DU does not make it the gospel.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 06:33 PM
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42. not so unlikely, sadly
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:31 PM
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8. That's not true..why do you insist on posting untrue things about our President?
Edited on Tue Sep-21-10 12:02 AM by Cha
Oh, And Howard Dean praises Obama..Good for Dean.

"well, i do think the president makes all the difference. if he's out there doing what he's doing today, he did a town meeting today, it was very, very good. he -- if he's out there all the time, and he needs to be harry truman. i'll tell you, i have heard more times from people in the street, yeah, you know, if you put the car in "d" it goes forward and if you put the car in "r," it goes backward and you don't want to give the keys to the same people who put us in the ditch. people get that stuff. you don't have to campaign against george bush, but people know who got us in this problem. the president's got to remind people about that and then go on and talk about the positive things he has done and wants to do. and that's the election winner. i've said before on your show, that i don't think we're going to lose either the house or the senate. we simply have better candidates and people are afraid of extremists and they won't vote for them. there'll be some that get elected to the senate, but not many."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x449342
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:35 PM
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10. What's untrue? nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:49 PM
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15. Doh!
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 11:52 PM by FrenchieCat
he asks innocently....

Pres. Obama is not attacking Social Security.
His Mother-in-law lives on Social Security......
you are just talking about what you wish he would do
so you could dislike him that much more.

You are spreading untruth, rumors, conjections, innuendos,
and made up shit. You are the one attacking.......

Guess you also believe that Pres. Obama believes in Black Liberation Theology
since Rev. Wright was his preacher, right?

And you probably believe that he is a Muslim too, since his Dad was born one,
right?

Did anyone ever come up with Michelle's Whitey tape? :shrug:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:51 PM
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16. Then answer my simple question
Thanks.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:52 PM
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17. I don't answer propaganda bullshit.
That's not my thing....

it's yours.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:54 PM
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19. Not into evidence, eh?
How truthy.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:55 PM
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21. The only untruthy are your made up comments.
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 11:56 PM by FrenchieCat

"You now have people who are deliberately distorting information, pumping viruses into the body politic and creating confusion. This is not just an attack on individuals. It's an attack on democracy." Van Jones

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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:58 AM
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30. How about taking on the argument instead of multiple TOS Violations
Edited on Tue Sep-21-10 02:02 AM by Go2Peace
It is not dishonest to state that we have fewer jobs now than last year, by some measurements. Jobs are growing, but in terms of % of population employed I believe Manny is correct.

So instead of calling him/her a liar and full of shit, maybe you could make the case like this: Such as another fact, that

"Jobs have grown faster this year than after any other recession."

Part of dialog and human nature is that people have different opinions on what is important.

You know the saying that you catch more flies with honey? It's actually true. Do you really believe the personal insults is an effective method to reach people reading this?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:37 AM
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33. Indeed, we’ve now seen eight consecutive months of job growth in the private sector
Indeed, we’ve now seen eight consecutive months of job growth in the private sector, a streak we haven’t seen in a long while.

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/09/03/the-obama-administration-is-weighing-new-tax-cuts-to-stimulate-the-economy-will-they-do-anything/
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:04 AM
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24. Yay Howard Dean praises the President..YaY.. Dean doesn't
sit around saying untrue things about the President he cares for our country.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:10 AM
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25. Sadly, Cha, he couldn't possibly care.
He hates America, just like the President does. And we're all dupes for believing they don't. I'm voting LaRouche next time. That'll show those DeeEllCee bastids.

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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:58 PM
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43. Whats untrue?
Seriously, thats a loaded question coming from you. But let me take a stab at answering it............pretty much every damn thing you type about the President us untrue.

How'd I do? LMAO
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:37 PM
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11. Nothing true there
Not that it matters, right?
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:32 AM
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32. This is false....
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:38 AM
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34. Indeed, we’ve now seen eight consecutive months of job growth in the private sector
Indeed, we’ve now seen eight consecutive months of job growth in the private sector, a streak we haven’t seen in a long while.

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/09/03/the-obama-administration-is-weighing-new-tax-cuts-to-stimulate-the-economy-will-they-do-anything/
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:05 PM
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37. Go to Free Republican where you belong.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 04:04 PM
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41. Your entire post is factually incorrect
you didn't get a single thing right
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Mefistofeles Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:26 PM
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2. I love Mark Halperin
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 11:26 PM by Mefistofeles
What a heck of a journalist, judging by this story. Does anyone have more info about his background?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:27 PM
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4. He's fucked up......
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 11:28 PM by FrenchieCat
but so are most of them.

Broken clock, twice a day...you know.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 04:24 AM
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31. What an odd question; Halperin has been around for ages. Google and see his "mash note" to Palin
Is it possible you are playing Devil's Advocate? :evilgrin: I pun on your name. Welcome to DU.

Hekate


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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:30 AM
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45. provocation is Mark's trademark...not integrity
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:28 PM
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5. I appreciate that we have President and his Admin
steering us out of the bushcheney fubar.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:48 PM
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14. Even in our sad situation, MORE JOBS have been developed
under Obama in 2 years than the whole eight years under Bush.

This has been reported by CBO and past CBO, also Orzag
two different reporters and others I cannot recall.

I am one of those Left Hecklers I guess, but being fair
is important to me.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:52 PM
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18. The number of Americans working is way, way down nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:55 PM
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20. And in your world, those millions of jobs that we lost was due to
Barack Obama, who is now, according to your propaganda line, "attacking" Social Security, right?

What team are you on, and what game are you playing?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:14 AM
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27. President Obama is out there working to
create more jobs and some of us are cheering him on while others can do nothing but hang on to the past.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:21 PM
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44. yes things are being done to create jobs
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:59 AM
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29. More private sector jobs have been created under Obama than Bush.
Bush, ironically, grew the federal government.
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:20 AM
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28. Glad to see this
I think a lot of us are going to look back at this time period maybe 20 years from now and seriously be like "What the fuck happened"? I am glad that a magazine like Time is picking up on the fact that every accomplishment Obama has achieved is being systematically dismantled by the right-wing media in an attempt to downplay his successes. This manipulative bullshit cant last forever.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 02:15 PM
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38. Kick
and keep kicking!!!
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 03:23 PM
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39. K & R. nt
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