My Republican father in Delaware confirmed many GOP voters will vote for Coons

[zulchzulu]

There is a slight caveat to the Senate race though.

These Republicans are extremely tired of outsiders coming into the state or pontificating as if they know about the state. That includes the MSNBC bomb throwers* (Matthews/Maddow/Olbermann) AND the Fox News bomb throwers who threw them into this mess in the first place. They will also be very reticent to vote for Coons if Biden wants to put his name on the race.

What that means (and I think correctly) is that Coons needs to essentially run as an "independent" to win handily. The more Biden shows up, the more these Republicans will just either hold their nose and vote for O'Donnell or not vote at all.

Likewise, the more Palin and her ilk, who destroyed Mike Castle, show up... the more they will be reminded why Castle lost.

* I like Chris, Keith and Rachel but am just telling what the perception is.

[madmax]

1. Just send Biden, nt

[zulchzulu]

4. Maybe a couple times...

Delawareans are now getting very wary of outsiders AND Joe Biden. That said, I like him. But, the more he is there, the more he is going to piss off the Independent vote, which actually will be critical in defeating O'Donnell below in "Slower Delaware", which is defined as below very blue (although getting purple) New Castle County.

[hlthe2b]

10. How can Joe Biden be linked with the outsiders?

[zulchzulu]

12. Biden is now seen as an "outsider" since he's VP

People are pissed at Biden if only because the Secret Service tie up everything when he's in town and that he is linked with the Obama administration while the Delaware economy is seriously in the shitter.

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[zulchzulu]

21. So Biden is popular in Sussex County?

LOL!

And the numbnut asshattery of you calling me a "winger"... Am I a Marxist too, Glenn?

:crazy:

[bluestateguy]

2. But I'm sure a lot of Delaware Republicans voted for Biden over the years

At least that could be inferred if you look at his Senate election winning totals over the years.

[MadMaddie]

3. What's the solution? Don't report on it at all?

To base one's voting decision on what the media is saying versus knowing as a citizen who will represent the district in a professional manner is childish don't you think?

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the more these Republicans will just either hold their nose and vote for O'Donnell or not vote at all.
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People are basing their decisions on emotions and not facts.

[zulchzulu]

6. To the contrary... Coons needs to be running as his own "man"

That needs to BE the story. And yes, report on it as such.

If Coons comes across as Biden's errand boy, that could be trouble in November.

Serious trouble.

[kristopher]

14. There are no more than a couple of degrees of separation from voters and candidates

Delaware is a small state and most of us either know the candidates, or we know someone who does. Coons isn't a new commodity for us, neither is O'Donnell.

[kristopher]

5. Delaware is a blue state to start with...

Castle was favored because many Dems and independents would vote for him because of his longevity (2 term Governor and 9 terms House) and the way he has worked across the aisle in the past. Without that background it is doubtful the Repubs could run a mainstream unknown and win. Factor in the long familiarity of voters with O'D and her nuttiness, and Coons doesn't need to do anything but present a reasoned alternative.

[madmax]

7. ...a reasoned alternative.

Given the opposition that shouldn't be too hard. But, then I'm flummoxed by the fight Reid is having to put up to deal the Angle. It's a crazy world out there kids.

[zulchzulu]

9. Money is flowing in for O'Donnell and her campaign has bought up a lot of media

Coons essentially is shut out of ANY media TV, radio or print buys in 2/3s of Delaware at this point.

Castle is not taking down his billboards all over the state and O'Donnell's campaign is going to flood the media markets all the way to Philly with TV, radio and print buys to cover New Castle County.

Castle has already paid for the billboards and other media buy slots and has told insiders that he'll take them down over his dead body.

Coons, if painted as an Obama "lackey" or a Biden errand boy, is... fucked.

[KingFlorez]

8. The last thing Coons should do is pretend not to be a Democrat

That would give the Republicans a talking point. If he acts as if he's not a Democrat, why would the Democrats in the state turn up to vote for him? He just needs to run a solid campaign, not put on an act.

[zulchzulu]

11. You can be a Democrat that is not seen as appointed, etc.

Coons can be overshadowed by Biden in rallies and have a bunch of big-name Democrats come in and link him to DC.

That's good for the Democratic base who is going to sit out the election.

If Coons were smart, he would show his experience and business background AND appeal to Independents who was a tad flabbergasted by O'Donnell's incompetence.

Play the Purity Card and Lose or Triangulate and Win.

It's Coons' choice.

[Diamonique]

13. This doesn't even make sense.

"These Republicans are extremely tired of outsiders coming into the state or pontificating as if they know about the state. That includes the MSNBC bomb throwers* (Matthews/Maddow/Olbermann) AND the Fox News bomb throwers who threw them into this mess in the first place."

That's plain stupid. The media are doing their job. They didn't throw Delaware into this mess. The idiots in Delaware who voted for the crazee threw them into the mess. The media is just reporting on it. That is their job.

So they're not going to vote for Coons if the media continues to report on their crazy candidate? Rethugs blame their shortcomings on anybody they can find. Tough shit. They voted for an idiot, and that's what the media is going to report.

Stupid.

[kristopher]

16. The source is tainted.

[GoCubsGo]

17. "Stupid" doesn't even begin to describe it.

From what I understand, only 19% of all registered republicans in the state even bothered to vote. Is that the media's fault, too? It's not just the idiots who voted for the crazee that threw them into their mess, it's the ones who stayed home and didn't vote at all. What was that saying about the number of fingers that point right back at you when you point your finger at someone else?

[zulchzulu]

20. Do you have immediate contacts in Delaware who work in the political circles there?

I do.

You obviously don't. I bet you couldn't even point to where Delaware is on a fucking map.

[treestar]

25. Why is it a bad thing if Republicans vote for Coons?

That is what will probably happen. People who would have voted for Castle will likely prefer Coons to the nutjob.

Coons will work hard, nonetheless.

[zulchzulu]

26. Where did you get that idea?

I certainly would never make such a suggestion.

[Bluenorthwest]

18. From here, every Republican in Delaware looks lilke O'Donnell

Any person who can vote for O'Donnell, holding nose or holding whatever, is despicable, ignorant, and is displaying deep contempt for the United States Senate. Tell your pop he's defined by his Party's choice, and no matter how much he and his pals whine about being cast in a stupid light in the news, it is they themselves who allowed this to happen. What was GOP turn out for this Primary,hmmmmmmmmm?
Your father's Party selected this creature to represent them as their best mind. And yet your father remains a Republican? From here, that about says it.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

19. O'Donnell will be getting lots of press coverage all right

in the coming weeks - mostly free and all NEGATIVE! Hopefully, that mainstream news about her dishonest past will eclipse her ads.

[wisteria]

23. If we overkill, we may see it backfire on us. We have to be careful not to make her

a sympathetic candidate in the minds of voters. And, I think that is what she and Palin are aiming for.

[zulchzulu]

24. Bingo

O'Donnell is already going to walk away with a lot of money from suckers that believe her, as has Palin.

What concerns anyone with a couple grains of political experience is seeing just how the turnout is with the Tea Party. The Scott Brown race is a perfect example.

How could a Massachusetts Republican down in the polls running for Ted Kennedy's seat win? It's "impossible"...

...or...

[wisteria]

22. But, Biden may help bring out Democrats even if he alinates a few Repubs.

How many Republicans do you think we can count on to vote for Coons the Democrat?

[karynnj]

27. This makes sense if you consider that having the big wigs of both parties

out there - overshadowing both the candidates, it turns a race between a man and a woman into a proxy war between the two parties. Though it is possible that we win that proxy war, it could be close. This when the contest between the two people is an easy win - if it remains that. Coons, who I have yet to see on national media, is said to be a competent, decent man capable of being a respected Senator - traits few assign to O'Donnell.

As to the media and Democrats attacking O'Donnell, it might be good to remind them that the first attacks were from the Republicans - and they were partially in response to very unprincipled attacks on Castle that the Republicans want us to forget. (This reminds me of Palin et al attacking the Democrats on the day that the Palins told the media that Bristol was pregnant with attacking the kid. In fact, no prominent Democrat did. )

[ClarkUSA]

28. How is Biden an "outsider"? I'd think it's clear he's the man to bring Democrats home for Coons.

Your dad's viewpoint may be skewed because he's a Republican who probably is not a Biden fan to begin with.

It's not like there's alot of Republicans in DE, anyway. Most of the sane ones will stay home, probably, especially if they hear anymore about O'Donnell's witchy ways and masturbation warnings.

[theothersnippywshrub]

29. What is the local coverage and awareness of the criminal allegations against her?