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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:02 AM
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Isn't it possible the Dems will have a filibuster proof 60 seat majority in November?
The Delaware senate race is technically a special election, so the winner will be seated immediately after the election in November. I believe New York, West Virginia, and Illinois winners will also be seated after the election.

Now with Coons almost certain to win, the Dems may have a filibuster proof majority during the lame duck Congress to move through some stalled legislations and nominations.

I guess though Kirk winning in Illinois would kill this, but I think there's a good possibility of good things happening by the end of the year.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:04 AM
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1. Not a chance. Florida does not look good, and Penn. is going to be tough /nt
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:06 AM
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5. Penn is not a special election
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:13 AM
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10. I know pennsylvania is not a special election, however, spector was a moderate, who at times
would vote with the Democrats. I just hope we win that seat


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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 11:08 AM
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16. But look at the OP's point..
the OP is talking about just the SPECIAL elections which will be seated in NOVEMBER, therefore, giving the Dems the possibility of passing some things before the end of the session in January. I don't think either PA or FL fit into that category.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 03:30 PM
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31. Excellent point, thanks for pointing it out /nt
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:04 AM
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2. no
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:05 AM
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3. It makes no difference. We had one before and failed to use it.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:10 AM
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7. Not exactly. LIEBERMANN BEN NELSON do not make a "60 Seat Majority"
Those guys too willing to vote with the Republicans.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:55 PM
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29. Republicans seem to do what they want with 50 seats and a VP but we can't govern with 60?
please, we should really learn to play by their rules instead of being nice. Lieberman should have a half a closet in the basement and no staff right now. He would if he was a repub and treated them the way he treats us.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:06 AM
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4. Getting 60 isn't enough
the conservadems got to go.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:09 AM
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6. Bingo
Probably have to get to about 65 in order to avoid Lieberman, Baccus, Lincoln, and a couple of others.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:10 AM
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8. or the rules need to be changed, too much abuse of Cloture Votes
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:33 AM
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14. The very same conservadems
won't vote for any changes, they think we are doing just fine as it is.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:28 PM
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28. Repub's are shedding their RINO's we have plenty of DINO's to
send out to pasture as well.

If we get 60 we still wouldn't be passing anything in the Senate. We have some bad bad bad apples in that bunch.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:13 AM
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9. No - all those seats are currently held by Democrats
At best, we stay at the same level we are now if we win all of them. (You forgot CO)
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:19 AM
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12. Florida was a Repug seat (Mel Martinez) so not a loss there
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:57 PM
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19. You are correct, I forgot that Martinez was replaced - so that too is a special election
I guess that does mean - it could happen. It means we have to win ALL the special elections. Florida looks less promising for a Crist win than it once did. Can you imagine though if we win all the special elections and Crist wins FL, this brand new independent Senator, who was a Republican a year ago could chose to caucus with us. Either way, as long as he voted like a moderate, he could be the 60th vote.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:15 AM
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11. won't this be wonderful
now we just have to get out the vote! We should carry around a few forms and ask everyone we meet "Are you registered to vote?"
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:27 AM
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13. but even in the best scenario, these are all already Dem seats to begin with
and represented in the senate as such
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:49 AM
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15. Yes, and we may have one after January.
Kirk isn't going to win Illinois. You're going to see the undecided move into the Democratic column as the election nears. Republicans peaked too early again.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 11:13 AM
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17. If so it will be a day of mourning here at DU
Tho' I will be rejoicing with the real world Dems! :toast:

Julie
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 11:14 AM
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18. Yes, it's possible, but even that won't stop us
from snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and fucking up any chance at decent legislation. The problem, still, is that never-ending cycle of timidity that is destroying just how much we COULD get done.

Until our elected leaders learn how to use that filibuster proof majority instead of kissing conservadem and Republican ass, we'll still see the slide to the right continue, unfortunately.
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Cognitive_Resonance Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:07 PM
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21. Suggest reading David Frum's article. He makes the case from the perspective of a Republican
that the opportunity for Democrats to effect significant (progressive) change is after Pres. Obama's re-election in 2012. With a mandate the door is open for a paradigm change including sweeping legislative driven reform and reshaping the Supreme Court.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:15 PM
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27. K&R X1000. You hit the nail on the head!
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:02 PM
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20. I believe PA will go with Sestak, but I don't think the 60 votes will be a real
advantage - we will still have some "moderate" Democratic idiots to contend with...

mark
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:25 PM
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22. Not if that 60 is composed of a-holes like Ben Nelson, Blanche Lincoln, and Lieberman. nt
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:55 PM
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25. Lincoln is still a contender?
I thought she was way down in polls, no?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:58 PM
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26. That's not a fait accompli quite yet but, yes, she is way down in the polls. nt
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:27 PM
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23. I hope Obama uses the chance to do a public option or get his appointees seated
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:53 PM
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24. Doubt it
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 01:56 PM by Ter
A net gain is all but impossible.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 03:23 PM
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30. Oh, that would be my greatest dream
Watching a bunch of Senators tie themselves in pretzels trying to explain why they still can't (won't) get anything accomplished with a filibuster proof majority would be worth the comedy alone.
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