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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 01:05 PM Original message |
The Dem model for 2010 is right there. Add a few tweaks, and we keep the Congress easily. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. Do we care if we lose the house and senate if it means replacing moderates with GOP conservatives? |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. We're a large regional nation, and any pure party will be a PERMANENT minority party. You MUST have |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. And yet if the progressives continually get the short end of the stick, or a smaller and smaller |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. As a purist you have the following choices: |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Not happy? Then NOMINATE and WIN with the "progressives" you want. Can't? Then stop |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Not if the progressives educate the seed-corn before the DLC does |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. As with Crist though, sometimes it MUST be a MIX of DLC and "Progressivism." |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The beauty is as the TeaRadicals take over the Pugs, THEY are driving themselves into permanent |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. As long as we protect the progressives, this round, I am perfectly fine with losing outspoken DLCers |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Don't fall into the purity trap. Otherwise you'll be a permanent minority and get NOTHING. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Those DLCers are exactly why we are in this mess today. They took control of the levers of power and |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. The DLC excuse is really getting lame. Not happy? Then WIN more primaries and then the general elec- |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Not with this administration and the Congressional committees taking sides in primaries. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. What, more excuses? Why can't "progressives" muster armies of dedicated volunteers? Excuses. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. We did it and then Obama's DLC team dismantled it. (nt) |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. Winning would be easier if our party was actually |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. +1000 |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Hogshit. We have a fucking laundry list of progressive accomplishments. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Not really. The most important and popular parts of every accomplishment were removed before the law |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Then go to those districts, organize the "progressives" you like next time, and WIN there. Either |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. That attitude tells us that you don't consider progressives |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Exactly. That arrogant attitude you refer to is the embodiment of the DLC and this administration.nt |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. DLC DLC DLC DLC DLC yaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwnn. Excuses excuses excuses. And, |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Sorry. These people have proven themselves more dangerous inside the Democratic Party |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. No. You have a laundry list of compromises |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Actually, you have a list of 121 accomplishments and 39 compromises: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Bull. You're just discrediting a fact-checking site that you obviously don't like. n/t |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. Yawn. Broken record. |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Do you have something worth saying? |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. oh, it was worth saying |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
11. K&R. It's so simple-but some just don't CARE. n/t |
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denimgirly (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
21. Rule #1: Finally start listening to your Base |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
33. How do you run on populism when your record doesn't support it? |
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