I understand the frustration with Blue Dogs but to quote Rahm, "F' them" its about Pelosi

[wndycty]

I share the frustration that many progressives and DUers have when it comes to the Blue Dogs, but between now and the first week of November the Blue Dogs are our friends. How they vote on any legislation is important, HOWEVER its not about them, its not about punishing them.

If they lose in November, Nancy Pelosi is no longer Speaker of the House and WE LOSE, not Democrats, not progressives, but the United States of America loses.

We are talking about cutting off our collective noses to spite our collective faces.

Punishing Blue Dogs is not as important to me as protecting this country from a Republican majority.

[RandomThoughts]

1. And if the blue dogs vote republican what do you get?

Protecting the blue dogs is not telling the people where they side.

And then people don't learn what is going on.

And they don't vote progressive in the primaries.



I do think most Democrats do better, but when they try to protect blue dogs, or bankers, or monopoly corporations. They keep the ability to fix the problem by hiding the cause of the problems.



Anyone wonder when Rome fell how the dark ages occurred, and how so much tech was lost? I can explain how that happened. Is that what people want?

[wndycty]

2. Oh so the Blue Dogs will vote for John Boehner to be speaker?

Do you get that if the Republicans take back control of the House and you will see any chances of progress over the next two year ground to a halt because these guys want to shut down the government and tie up Congress by conducting investigations and holding hearings about the Obama administration.

Do you really want that. Yes or No?

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Random Thoughts is apparently having another of those

frontal short circuits again. Every once in a while (like in about 80% of his posts) most of his cortical myelin seems to go weird.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. The time to get the Blue Dogs, if you're going to do it,

is in the Primaries.

In November they're our dearest friends and treasures.

Not just Pelosi, not even just averting 2 or 4 years of impeachment hearings. It's stuff like appointments to the Extreme Court.

[rateyes]

5. I cast my last vote for my blue dog rep 4 years ago...

If Jim Marshall loses by one vote, it will be mine...and, if that costs us the majority, so be it. I am sick and tired of my vote being taken for granted. "The left has nowhere else to go," has been the Democratic party's lifeline...and, they have screwed progressives at every turn.

Fuck 'em. I'm tired of their shit.

[StreetKnowledge]

6. It's why I'm trying to avoid politics.

We progressives will lose anyway, so why bother wasting the effort? We put in the effort in spades, got the first black President elected, and he left us behind within days of his inauguration.

America will not start seriously considering progressive policies until the economy crashes for fair in about a decade. And when it does that, and the resulting civil violence, violent crimes, race riots, hate crimes and such claim a few thousand lives and destroy much of what is left, America will probably then and only then start looking after all of its people. Like what happened in the Great Depression. I'm just hoping the crash and the years of violence that follow it don't shake the nation so bad it cannot recover.

[Clio the Leo]

7. What's important is NOT that we maintain a majority in Congress..

... but that we win an intraparty p*ssin' match.

:sarcasm: