What's the most disappointing thing Obama has done as president? Honduras?

[murdoch]

For me it was approving the coup d'etat in Honduras. They closed down the press, killed several of the presidential candidates including many others, had a very low percentage of the population actually voting since they were boycotting the election, yet the liberals here are all talking about how great it is. And like the US had nothing to do with - which is kind of like when the Russians used to say what was going on in the Polish communist leadership had nothing to do with them. Why did Reagan say "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" when he was in East Germany which was run by Honecker? The US has more control over what goes on in Honduras than Russia had in East Germany (and Russia's influence on East Germany was considerable).

A lot of things have happened since Obama was president but this is the most disappointing. Just as the left in Colombia was slaughtered as they tried to enter electoral politics in the 1980s (with US help), and realized the only option left to them was to pick up the gun and join FARC, since elections were violently closed for them, so I think it is apparent that only a guerrilla movement can restore democracy in Honduras. Then the liberals here who are so happy about what happened in Honduras can jump on board US military action against that.

But of course, after an army coup d'etat, after presidential candidates were killed, after soldiers marched in and closed the press, after many opposition organizers were killed, they held an "election". Which most people boycotted, and which a very small minority of the population voted in. Iran and Egypt have "elections" as well, I don't hear the liberals here crowing about how great a democracy Iran is. Because obviously Iran isn't, despite its "elections".

[babylonsister]

1. The Obama administration rightly condemned the June 28 coup d'état that overthrew President Manuel Z

http://www.newsweek.com/id/225810


:wtf:

[Chulanowa]

9. Oh, Babylonsister, haven't you heard?

Here on DU, we are no longer restrained by such silly, quaint notions as "reality" if it means blaming THAT ONE for whatever our fevered minds can dream up.

Get with it!

[murdoch]

14. This article is nonsense

"But two fundamental conditions of legitimacy were met. The defeated candidates all accepted the winner's victory, and the turn-out (more than 61 percent) was higher than on previous occasions, meaning that the electorate did not follow Zelaya's recommendation to abstain."

The defeated candidates all accepted the winner's victory? Presidential candidate Cesar Ham was killed! So yes, all of the defeated candidates, who had not been killed before the election, or who had not dropped out of the election due to fraud and persecution (Carlos Reyes) or who were not boycotting the election (Zelaya), accepted the defeat.

Also the 61% turnout number is completely bogus, but in a situation where the coup leaders are killing off the opposition, it seems a pointless thing to quibble over. If the army has marched in and closed the press of anyone opposing the coup, if presidential candidates like Cesar Ham are killed, along with many others, the government can pull any number out of a hat it wants to.

[Eric68601]

2. I'm disappointed

Obama should be able to pay off the deficit, fix health care, create millions of new jobs, create world peace, end world hunger, bring home the troops, capture Bin Laden, and walk on water in only a few short months.

He is a failure.

:sarcasm:

[cherokeeprogressive]

5. Interesting... The only thing you left out was Civil Rights for All American Citizens.

Which is the only real thing I'm disappointed about. I'm disappointed that he put my gay Daughter's civil rights, and those of others like her, on the back burner.

[jefferson_dem]

17. I agree...

That's my biggest issue with his presidency so far. Now's the time...to demand equality for all.

[JuniperLea]

34. See my sigline...

Yeah, the rat bastard is on my last raw nerve too... :sarcasm:

[TheBigotBasher]

3. The President condemned the coup.

State had different views.

[harkadog]

11. State works for Obama.

[IndianaGreen]

35. Sure, he did!

He also closed down the torture and murder school at Fort Benning, or did he?

[Oceansaway]

4. Joe Lieberman.....n/t

[ClarkUSA]

6. Wearing mom jeans. That was horrible and unforgivable.

:cry:

[Cha]

8. Why it's a full fledged whine thread

that the facts had to be immediately brought to light.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

23. I was going to say "mustard on his burger at Ray's," but yeah...

those jeans were pretty bad.

[opihimoimoi]

7. The Best thing so far is the Fumigation of the White House of Horrors...no more sulfur odor

[FrenchieCat]

10. Are we allowed just to make shit up cause we can here...?

Cause if so, that's truly disappointing.

[defendandprotect]

12. Wiretapping legislation . . . not barring Blackwater from contracts --

and now putting more troops in Afghanistan --

Long list of things, tho --

Honduras . . .

But to tell the truth I'm so numb politically now I'm trying to take a break --

[tritsofme]

13. Zelaya's term ends in January, the succession issue had to be resolved.

The regularly scheduled elections with candidates chosen before the coup was the only way to bring the political crisis to a close.

The Administration condemned the coup when it happened, but the issue of succession could not go unanswered.

[TankLV]

15. Keep the same fucked-up things that bush set up in place...

Patriot Act
Warrantless Wiretapping
Torture Photos and Torturing
WARMONGERING
Ability to declare one a Non Citizen

Bailouts to Business Criminals while at the same time ZILCH for the common man.

There are too many to just point to ONE

[HamdenRice]

29. Warrantless wiretapping? Torture? You realize there was an election and change of administration

right? Warrantless wiretapping and torture are over.

[timeforpeace]

16. Most disappointing is Afghan war escalation. Honduras doesn't ever register.

[FLyellowdog]

18. Not coming to visit me in person....the nerve of that man!!!!!!nt

[NoPasaran]

19. Ten months in office and still no flying cars!

I am SO poutraged!

[LaydeeBug]

20. "has done" being the operative phrase, and I did not read the Op bc I am drunk like a lush...

but I'd have to say Rick Warren. That was disappointing to me. Honestly.

[Hippo_Tron]

21. Obama condemned the coup in Hondouras, your OP is bullshit

[Divine Discontent]

22. we have our hand in FAR too much - and are falling because of that. :(

[smalll]

24. Take your anti-American, anti-Obama nonsense and....

Enjoy Your Stay!

:hi:

PS -- Thanks for your concern!

[BeyondGeography]

25. That's one of many reassuring things, actually

[Hekate]

26. Trawling for dissatisfaction is turning into a great DU pastime.

:shrug:

[JTFrog]

27. +1 n/t

[HamdenRice]

28. laughably stupid from line 1: "approving the coup d'etat in Honduras"

[Hekate]

30. Murdoch... Rupert, is that you?

:rofl:

Why didn't your empire report the Bush-Cheney coup d'etat when it occurred? I always wondered about that.

Hekate

[WI_DEM]

31. The most disappointing thing he has done is beating McCain because DU really hates Obama.

[dionysus]

32. bing!

[IndianaGreen]

36. Obama has a neocon Miami gusano as his ambassador to Honduras

Or did you even know that?

[AlinPA]

33. Joe Lieberman. nt

[branders seine]

37. It's right in keeping with the rest of his decisions