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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 06:14 PM
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When it comes to job creation and upcoming elections, Republicans are between a rock and a hard
For the 2010 elections, Republicans are hoping that Americans forget that they voted against every job creation measure since President Obama's first day in office.

The right and the media are trying to create bogus controversies to distract Americans from the fact that Republicans have done nothing and have no plan.

In fact, Republicans want Americans to believe that they will win in November because of phony controversies.

OK, what if Republicans can fool Americans, what then?

Let's say Republicans win control of both the House and the Senate. They take control in January 2011. What are they going to do for the next two years? They can't do nothing, and any positive economic news will help the President, and likely Democrats, in 2012. Why: Democrats, unlike Republicans, are not going to vote against real job creation.

In other words, to benefit from taking control of Congress, Republicans will have to produce.

What if Democrats retain control of both the House and Senate? Then Democrats can continue to provide incremental stimulus without Republican support, and the GOP can again try to distract in 2012.




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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 07:04 PM
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1. No comment? n/t
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MikeW Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 07:16 PM
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2. that fact doesnt register with voters ....
They only remember who's in charge.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 07:29 PM
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3. "They only remember who's in charge. "
True, but that's the problem they'll have to deal with if they can wrestle control from Democrats in 2010.

Frankly, I think they'd have to pull off a miracle. Also, can you imagine the damage the Republican Party would sustain if they don't?

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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 07:34 PM
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4. The Problem
Independent voters seem In a hurry to vote Republican eather because Obama hasn't magiclly solved all the problems or because they
buy the BS lies told about Obama.Right now because of Independnets Republicans are posed to take back the House and reduce the Democratic Majority In The Senate to a bare majority.When Obama Is at 42 percent approval and non RAS polls have Rubio ahead In
Florida and Portman In Ohio(Ok not all Florida and Ohio polls show that but still)this shows the direction we are headed because of
the fickleness of Independents.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 07:43 PM
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5. Independents are fickle
This is why Democrats up for re-election need to do whatever they have to do to protect their seats. This is one reason to ignore the media claims that Democrats are avoiding the President. This election is about Congressional majority. Demcorats need to do whatever it takes to retain control.





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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 08:02 PM
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6. There are different methods of creating jobs. Republicans usually try to do it by cutting corporate
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 08:04 PM by dkf
Taxes and by cutting regulation while democrats do things like...like...hmm what do we do to create jobs? All we know how to do is form a safety net which provides a minimal amount of subsistence funds and give money to states to keep them treading water. I wish I knew what a Democratic jobs program looks like but I don't know what to point at that we've done successfully.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 08:13 PM
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7. Here's one
that works.

Still, there are infrastructure jobs and other stimulus funded projects that can be expanded.



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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 03:18 AM
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8. If the GoP
Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 03:21 AM by LatteLibertine
return to a majority they will do what they usually do; increase crony capitalism, provide tax breaks for the most wealthy and undermine all meaningful regulation. Their agenda is to increase the concentration of money and power upwards into the hands of the most wealthy minority at the expense or best interests of the overwhelming majority of the US population. Look at the actual net effect of their policies. In the US 20% of our population holds 85% of our wealth and 61% of all income. That is not the result of system that has been balanced or just.

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 07:26 AM
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9. Man, share the Kool-Aid
the repukes have shown repeatedly that they can make gains using lies, hatred, and wedge issues. They haven't done a single thing for the American people since taking Congress in 1994, yet still they move farther to the right and continue to hold their own or gain electorally. They held the House for 12 years despite inflicting grievous harm on the country, and will attempt the same sort or treason this time around.

If they take the House in January, they will spend the next two years impeaching the president while the real business of the country goes undone. They learned their lesson during Clinton's term - don't wait until the 2nd term to impeach.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 09:29 AM
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10. "the repukes have shown repeatedly that they can make gains using lies, hatred, and wedge issues."
Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 09:29 AM by ProSense
Maybe some people should stop drinking the Republicans' brand.

The 2006 elections produced an historic sea change, as Democrats, despite the impediments of gerrymandered districts, incumbency, money, machinery and mobilization capacity, took control of the House and the Senate. Democrats have gained 29 seats and counting in the House and six in the Senate. Stunningly, incumbent Democrats lost not one seat. Democrats also made gains in the states. They picked up 275 seats in state legislatures, taking control of nine new chambers and winning six new governors’ offices. Democrats now control a majority of statehouses, and both legislative bodies in 23 states, with Republicans controlling 10 states and 16 split.
Democrats won in every region, but the bulk of the gains were in the Northeast and Midwest. This was a sweeping repudiation of one party rule in Washington, with Republicans suffering down ballot as well.

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In the races we studied, the largest sums of campaign advertising were spent on economic ads that featured remarkably populist messages. Ads from candidates of both parties showed people working harder and not getting ahead. Campaign ads featured drugs people couldn’t afford, college priced out of reach, and fuel prices breaking family budgets. Corruption was linked to this middle class squeeze. The cost of corruption – candidates voting the interests of corporate lobbies and donors rather than working families – attracted the most combined ad money. While working families struggled, big business and corporate elites were portrayed as making out like bandits. Corporate lobbies regularly appeared as a villain in ads by candidates from both parties, whether driving up the price of oil, polluting the Everglades, or fouling up health care. It can be safely said that more money was spent on ads depicting Big Oil and Big Pharma as threats than on ads warning of Osama bin Laden.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 09:59 AM
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11. So why did "sweeping repudiation" take 12 years?
And why, despite their rapid move toward racist/corporatist/hate-fueled platform, haven't they been wiped out? Why do they still control the government's agenda? Why is the fascist, stupid, barely-literate Sarah Palin still a national force? Why are teabaggers going to be taking office in January? Why do AZ legislators, who, while their state plunges into bankruptcy, pass laws like "professors can carry weapons in class", continue to get re-elected? And despite all of those ads against congressional corporatists, there sure seems to still be a lot of them in office.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:11 AM
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12. Why did they lose in 2008?
Edited on Mon Aug-16-10 10:16 AM by ProSense
Why are you so determined to argue the RW's case?

"Why are teabaggers going to be taking office in January?"

Why are you so sure about this?

"Why do AZ legislators"

Why did the judge rule against Arizona's bogus law?

Face it, the power Republicans have, they have over your perception, not mine.

Americans, you, have the power to reject their arguments, to render them powerless, but you want to argue that they rule.





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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-10 10:29 AM
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13. K & R!
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