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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:00 PM
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Daniel Cowart, Skinhead Obama Assassination Plotter, Asks Feds To Pay For Swastika Tattoo Removal

Daniel Cowart, Skinhead Obama Assassination Plotter, Asks Feds To Pay For Swastika Tattoo Removal


Daniel Cowart, who plead guilty to 8 federal charges, including a plot to assassinate President Barack Obama and over 100 black people, has requested that he be moved to a county jail in Tennessee to undergo tattoo alterations before he is sent to federal prison, reports to The Jackson Sun.

The 21-year-old has a tattoo of an iron cross on his chest, as well as a swastika tattooed on his shoulder and is worried that they will draw the unwanted attention of other inmates while he is incarcerated.

The U.S. Marshals Service has objected to Cowart's request for the cosmetic procedure, arguing that it would set an unwelcome precedent, reports the Sun:

more:
http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20100709/NEWS01/7090308/Daniel-Cowart-asks-court-for-tattoo-alteration
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:02 PM
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1. If he's truly a proud member of the "master race" he should be able to survive in prison with it.
Edited on Wed Jul-14-10 06:02 PM by YOY
n.t.
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:17 PM
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4. Maybe he should change his name to Coward n/t
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:20 PM
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6. There is irony in that, if the story is true.
Edited on Wed Jul-14-10 06:21 PM by RandomThoughts
And it is hard to comment on the concept in that story because the writer of that story plastered it to nazi symbolism. Then you threw in a religious comment.

There are two parts to your comment, the first part is terrible racism and stuff like that from the OP.

But there is another story that is the opposite of that.

That exact same thing was said about Jesus on the cross, if he is Son of God let him save himself.

I am not comparing the two items, but someone is, and that is in many places. Someone is taking the exact phrasing concept used for Jesus, and using it for a Nazi with a tattoo :wtf:

See my point, how can that happen? Depends on your belief I would think?

Do you see what happens there, take something said about someone and stick an example that is bad to it.

The phrasing in your post is truly incredible if you did not know you did it, and pretty low if you did know you did it.


Then there is another concept in that, there are people that think they are wealthy because they are blessed, not because of free will choices, or 'buy offs' that get them to do something in exchange for wealth. Literally there are entire groups that say when people have power or money it is because they are blessed. Which completely removes free will from existence if true, which is also why some of them think the entire world is puppets.

But anyway although I think that guy should not be racist, and racist teaching are ignorant, anyone that thinks they are chosen to be better by things like genealogy or race is really bad. It is an excuse for self superiority.



What I find so interesting is your comment, and how it makes the same sentiment as said by the opposite of raciest views from many years ago.

However they are not the same, and using that same comment is really to paint something as something else.



Does that make sense, you took a saying used in religious teachings, then attached it to a group that is the opposite of those teachings.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:33 PM
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7. I said nothing religious whatsoever...at least not intentionally.
Edited on Wed Jul-14-10 06:42 PM by YOY
So help me magical sky daddy.

And if you think there is a "son of God" thing there...well...claiming one is the son of god is one thing...claiming one is a member of the master race is another. One implies racism and hatred...take what you will from the other.

Son of god is an ambiguous title...master race...not so ambiguous. This man made his bed. He will now lie in it. He didn't cross any "taboos"...no he took a thing any person with a brain knows is immoral and pushed it to intended homicide...even if it were just a homeless man of a different color it's deplorable.

Let the nazi and his superior blood rot. Unless you think him capable of redemption...perhaps he is. Then again...anyone who'd go as far as to plan what he did had to have some serious commitment to try it.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:43 PM
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9.  I was commenting on how your comment was the same
Edited on Wed Jul-14-10 06:44 PM by RandomThoughts
but it was stuck to an opposite view.


You made the same comment, although the view is opposite.


I don't believe in master race, nor do I believe in one group being better by things like that.


But I found your post intriguing since it said the same thing, and wondered if it was intentional, or if it shows a common thought process, that is used for both bad and good on issues of empathy and claims of superiority weather true or not.

I am just examining the fascinating contradictions. You could go as far as to say that some people have problem with some people that claim to be Jewish for the same reason.

I just find it all so fascinating.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:51 PM
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10. As you will...but the depth isn't really there for me. It ws not intentional.
The idea of redemption is possible. I wouldn't deny it. I would doubt it though.

Now take for example what would happen if Joe "The Plumber" (aka Sam Wurtzenbocker or whatever) had a pipe burst in his house and I was his neighbor. I'm not a plumber...but I don't claim to be one either. Would I feel bad if he told me to fix it and I refused as I am not plumber and pointed out that he says he is one?

I don't think I'm being hypocritical by pointing out hypocracy. I can give some empathy. Probably not a lot and it probably wouldn't do any good...and I would have to judge this man by his past record.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 07:00 PM
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11. I am not critizing you. I am finding the correlation interesting.
It sorta makes sense, although in the case of this thread, that guy, or the person that wrote the story, is not anything more special then anyone else, so your comment almost makes sense, in a he done it to himself sort of way. But that is said about good people that do not deserve bad fates also.

And because his views are hateful and such, it is easy to make those views about him, but what about people that have those views about good people?

But I find it really interesting that it was the same way for someone that was not hateful, and am trying to resolve that contradiction by looking at what you posted.

It seems to mean that bad can treat good with the same thoughts that good treats bad.

You can make that statement if someone is bad or good, it only requires the perception they are bad. Somewhere in there is something.


And I don't think you are being hypocritical, and sorta agree with what you are saying, be bold in your beliefs and let the chips fall where they may. If he believes in that hate, he should as another poster said own it. Although I would hope it would be for him to learn how it is wrong.


It is just so fascinating that it matches that other occurrence, yet is opposite.


It is really fascinating.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 07:12 PM
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12. "Good" and "Evil" are relative and comparative terms. Selfishness and kindness are not.
Edited on Wed Jul-14-10 07:14 PM by YOY
Few in this world truly think they are evil and embrace it. Even some who claim to be "evil" can justify their actions in some pseudo-necessary survival context...then there's libertarians (but I digress).

Bad things happen to people who are beneficial to others and good things happen to those who cause more damage to society than benefit. It's the way of the world. There are times and places where we can level the playing field and make "fate" and life a bit more just. We can justify it using religion. We can just be jaded or we can do just a little to make it a better place. It's our choice. Be that aiding a person who has endeared themselves to others over their lives rewarded in some emotional or even materially or working toward justice that involves punishment who has not only embraced a philosophy that damages us all but wielded it. We all chose that. Not good or evil but selfishness vs kindness.

There is always room for redemption of those who would hurt others to advance themselves...and alway possible corruption of those who would be beneficial to us all.

No man or woman is beyond help or beyond corruption. In the end we all make our own beds...we all make the main decisions to help or hurt.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 07:36 PM
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14. I really do understand the concept of self and society.
Posted on it many times. In some way I think balance has to have some self also. I been working on some self goals lately, but also spend much time working on selfless goals.

Note I don't really do anything, so much of working on things is just not doing what I think is bad.

But anyways, I agree with the concept of selflessness, but there needs to be acceptance of joy also and not looking to create suffering in ones life or elsewhere, even if there is some suffering in life that is overcome. Does that make sense, I don't think it is about embracing suffering, but not letting hardships for better reasons be something that keeps you from moving forward.

So it is about the joy for others, and even yourself, and if there is suffering in doing that, it is becuase joy for others would be a bit better then just joy for self, but also you have to include yourself in the group of others that you want to have joy.


Interestingly there is a sect that thinks people that suffer are magnets for bad so they can live in luxury, and think it is meant to be that way to break empathy or to reason why they have and other suffer. It also alows them to not help those that suffer, or even create suffering. That is actually the opposite of the caring religions.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:04 PM
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2. Own it Naziboy. n/t
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:17 PM
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3. Ummm. No. Deal with it Nazi punk.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:20 PM
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5. Cheaper alternative - have a circle with a slash through it tattooed over top...
...and hope its enough to save your ass.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:34 PM
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8. lol nt
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 07:20 PM
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13. Use a grinder...
...that's what gangs use in prison when they don't like someone's tattoo.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 07:41 PM
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15. it's always comforting to see young people with the courage of their convictions. n/t
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 07:43 PM
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16. I've got a belt sander, I'll do it for free!
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